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Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 03:22 #1

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www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-...le-article-1.1137138
A quote from the rant;

"Back in my country, my president is trying to pass a gun ban, so he's staging all of these murders,” says Mustaine in a video flagged by heavy metal news site Blabbermouth.net Wednesday.

“Like the 'Fast And Furious' thing down at the border and Aurora, Colorado, all the people that were killed there and now the beautiful people at the Sikh temple."

On a recently-surfaced video clip taken by a fan, the crowd can be heard going quiet as Mustaine continued his diatribe.

"I don't know where I'm gonna live if America keeps going the way it's going because it looks like it's turning into Nazi America," said Mustaine.

There's a video in the above link too. Mustaine was quoted on Info Wars as well.... He's obviously just coming to terms with this line of thinking, blaming "Obama" for all of this, but then I visited blabbermouth.net, a music news site, and saw this in response

blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=178305
Guitarist Craig Locicero of San Francisco Bay Area metallers FORBIDDEN has posted the following message on his Facebook page:

"So everyone wants to pile on [MEGADETH mainman] Dave [Mustaine], who definitely has douchy tendencies.

"I don't know of anyone that has all of their facts straight on [James] Holmes [the alleged shooter in Aurora, Colorado movie theater massacre], but I STRONGLY believe there is the possibility that he was a patsy. But not summoned by Obama himself. That is where I think Mustaine was ignorant and gives him too much credit/blame. But used by those who control the ebbs and flows of society.

"Take a long view of this upcoming dog-and-pony show called our 'free' election. If you do, you can see where the lines of division on race, sexuality, religion, freedom of speech and our rights to assemble are being drawn.

"Things are uglier than they have been in any recent history.

"Whichever side wins the fake election in November, there will be a backlash from the polarized extremists on the other side. This government and military are fully anticipating it as a certainty.

"So what does that mean in this very subject?

"These shootings are a possible catalyst to eradicate the right to bear arms in this country. It makes most people say, 'Hey, enough is enough. Let's make guns illegal here!' That sounds dandy to some folks, but it's beautiful music to the ears for those who crave division amongst our citizens.

"Take away the guns from all of the radicals and eradication becomes much easier. But nowhere near everyone with a gun is a radical.

"So while Dave supposedly shoved his feet into his mouth once again, I say he's close to the truth. A lot closer then most people want to accept.

"One thing is certain. People suck.

"Watch these videos for a little more [insight] and go ahead and hate the messenger if you wish."

The videos from the above are posted below...... There is a "How dare he say this!!"type response from a member of Motley Crue, :roll: but I was amazed at some of the comments under these articles at blabbermouth..... they're about 50-50 as to some agreeing and suggesting that folks "wake up" "free yourself from mind control" "watch Zeitgeist" etc......against those who are sticking to the script.









Very brave public stances from the heavy metal community. I'm not a big fan of this kind of music, but I am of these guys as people after this. Great stuff. The videos are :O surprising to say the least.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 03:32 #2

Very interesting. Thanks for that ronisron :)
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 04:50 #3

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The policy of destroying evidence and sensationalised media coverage seems to be a modern trend. Why did they make a big deal out of the removal and subsequent disposal of the explosive materials after they had been made safe? The material is evidence which can be traced back to the point of manufacture through chemical analysis. The whole booby trapped apartment sub plot seems to be in place to serve one purpose and that is to paint a picture of an extreme nut job with access to fire arms and explosives.

What news reports have covered the funding of the weapons purchased? Where is the evidence supporting the fact that he had knowledge of weapons and was capable of taking a shot? Where is the evidence that he was trained in the use of explosives, trigger mechanisms, booby trap placement and trigger methods? Where did he purchase the explosives and the detonators? Why did he bother to booby trap the apartment? Why did he inform the police that he had rigged up his apartment? Surely the point of setting booby traps would have been to injure investigating officers. Why was there such a huge quantity of explosives in the apartment he could probably have knocked out a large section of the block with his stash? If he was so good with explosives and had such a good supply why did he elect to shoot the movie house up when he could have used explosives which would have been far more dramatic and potentially cause more death and injury. It would also have been more in keeping with the character he was supposedly portraying. Especially when you take into account that he had orange hair ,and the only significant scene where the joker had that look was a scene which lead to a major explosive scene at the hospital.

It's obvious that this whole event was staged..it's hard to imagine how anyone with a brain cell could fail to see it for what it is. Unless of course they ignore the glaringly obvious holes in the story being portrayed in the media.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 12:25 #4

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Dave Mustaine is a pro Israeli neocon fundamentalist xtian that encouraged people tovote for Bush in 2004
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 13:09 #5

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mikey mikey wrote:
Dave Mustaine is a pro Israeli neocon fundamentalist xtian that encouraged people tovote for Bush in 2004
Well, we all makes mistakes. I don't know the totality of his views now, but we all have the right to the odd daft opinion that changes over time.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 13:46 #6

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mikey mikey wrote:
Dave Mustaine is a pro Israeli neocon fundamentalist xtian that encouraged people tovote for Bush in 2004
Well, we all makes mistakes. I don't know the totality of his views now, but we all have the right to the odd daft opinion that changes over time.

Yes, and clearly way off the track of the thread. :roll: The point is, these rants made the MSM, and at the sites of the NY Times, The Examiner, etc, the comments below the articles are very telling as to how people are really starting to see through these things. I thought it was more interesting to post the opinions of people who post on a music site, as well as some artists because it's off the beaten path of the regular MSM, and it really seems to be stepping outside the shallow "this band sucks" vs "this band rocks" type of comments that site usually has. Some of them were linking to infowars and what have you. That guitarist from Forbidden posted all of those vids in the OP on Twitter..... those are eye openers for some people. Folks are looking for alternatives to the biased reporting in the MSM. Furthermore, sometimes it's just about the message, not who says it. Dave Mustaine just so happens to be the medium for this statement. He's also a former junkie who has a lousy reputation in the music community, and is known to be a real a-hole..... but he stood on a stage in Singapore and ranted about the Gov't and how they are staging these shootings in the USA. That's awesome, IMO. Some Americans have a lot of ingrained propaganda to get past before they can even consider that the most powerful elements of their government are hostile to the citizenry.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 14:35 #7

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ronisron wrote:
Yes, and clearly way off the track of the thread. :roll:

Nope. It is clearly partisan electioneering bullcrap.

And infowars and Alex Jones are just as partisan.

And before you claim that I am pro-Obama, I will be honest: if he had done what he promised, I might have been.

But he didn't, in fact he did the opposite.

So i am not.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 14:47 #8

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And before you claim that I am pro-Obama, I will be honest: if he had done what he promised, I might have been.

Even if you are there is nothing wrong with that.

I would vote for Obama again just for the fact that guys like Romney and Santorum seem way more Dangerous.

If another Neo-Con becomes president they might just nuke the Middle East on the day they are sworn in to office.

As for staged shootings, if there was NOT 30,000 gun deaths a year in the US i might believe in a conspiracy.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 14:50 #9

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
Dave Mustaine is a pro Israeli neocon fundamentalist xtian that encouraged people tovote for Bush in 2004
Well, we all makes mistakes. I don't know the totality of his views now, but we all have the right to the odd daft opinion that changes over time.

Looks like he hasn't learned from that "mistake"
Megadeth Frontman Dave Mustaine Supports Rick Santorum

www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/1...s-rick-santorum.html
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 15:35 #10

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mikey mikey wrote:
ronisron wrote:
Yes, and clearly way off the track of the thread. :roll:

Nope. It is clearly partisan electioneering bullcrap.

And infowars and Alex Jones are just as partisan.

And before you claim that I am pro-Obama, I will be honest: if he had done what he promised, I might have been.

But he didn't, in fact he did the opposite.

So i am not.

No I wasn't going to say anything bout you being pro Obama, I know you're not American. It doesn't matter if you are pro or anti Obama anyway. Irrelevant. But lets steer this back on track, shall we mikey?

It doesn't matter to me what Mustaine's politics are. If his intent was only to be anti Obama, that's fine, but his comments have taken on a life of their own, hence the point of the thread. The fact that comments in response to those articles about his rant reflect that other people also believe that these shootings were staged by elements of the Gov't, is telling, also hence the point of this thread. Mustaine is just a "leaping off point" if you will. I believe the shootings were staged myself. I don't give a damn about Obama, Bush, Romey, Paul, et al, because the real power is behind the scenes, and they are who needs to be exposed. Intelligence agencies have the capabilities to "make" killers. So does the military, for instance. They train people to kill all the time.
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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 15:40 #11

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They train people to kill all the time.

They certainly do. But I know when the truth movement is getting played.
And it's getting played.

And I will continue to point this out when I think it is happening.
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Good points mikey mikey, of course his politics are important Ron, he's talking shite to get popular support among unhinged right wingers on the net.

Any psychologists coming out to question the official story or is it just crap musicians and kooks on the internetz?

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Re: Megadeth guitarist says recent shootings in America were staged events..... 18 Aug 2012 15:46 #13

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mikey mikey wrote:
ronisron wrote:
They train people to kill all the time.

They certainly do. But I know when the truth movement is getting played.
And it's getting played.

And I will continue to point this out when this happens.

And I guess in your way, you already did. Thanks for contributing. Back on track now! :D
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Good points mikey mikey, of course his politics are important Ron, he's talking shite to get popular support among unhinged right wingers on the net.

Any psychologists coming out to question the official story or is it just crap musicians and kooks on the internetz?

Yes, mikey made great points :roll: . My point wasn't about politics, it was about the shootings being staged, and Mustaine's comments triggering some people to speak out on MSM sites, AND music sites. How did you miss that? :chuckle: Some of us on here believe the shootings were staged. This thread is about that angle. OK? If you guys want it to be about politics, that's fine too. It was intended to be about people thinking this was staged, and expressing it on MSM sites. Mustaine was just the launching pad, regardless of his politics.
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I believe the shootings were staged myself.

Do you think the other 30,000 gun deaths a year in the US were also staged?

If columbine did not change gun laws why would this or the next shooting that happens?

Gun laws will not change anything...imo
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Good points mikey mikey, of course his politics are important Ron, he's talking shite to get popular support among unhinged right wingers on the net.

I agree...
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Yes, mikey made great points.

Thanks ron! :thumbup:
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Yes I'm putting forward the idea that a bunch of people who aren't aware of the facts stating with certainty "it was staged!!1", detracts from rational or actual criticism's of the government and society that produces murderers of this kind.
I've seen no evidence it was staged tbh, and why would I, I haven't been in the court during his trial?
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RealAmerican wrote:
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I believe the shootings were staged myself.

Do you think the other 30,000 gun deaths a year in the US were also staged?

If columbine did not change gun laws why would this or the next shooting that happens?

Gun laws will not change anything...imo

Hey, if you don't see anything wrong with how these shootings unfolded recently, that's fine, but lots of others do. You see what you see, and you understand what you understand.
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. You see what you see, and you understand what you understand.

:umm:

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