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the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 02:45 #1

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584...NATES-free-will.html

The most dangerous drug in the world: 'Devil's Breath' chemical from Colombia can block free will, wipe memory and even kill

Scopolamine often blown into faces of victims or added to drinks
Within minutes, victims are like 'zombies' - coherent, but with no free will
Some victims report emptying bank accounts to robbers or helping them pillage own house
Drug is made from borrachero tree, which is common in Colombia

By Beth Stebner

PUBLISHED: 17:44 EST, 12 May 2012 | UPDATED: 08:43 EST, 13 May 2012

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A hazardous drug that eliminates free will and can wipe the memory of its victims is currently being dealt on the streets of Colombia.

The drug is called scopolamine, but is colloquially known as ‘The Devil’s Breath,' and is derived from a particular type of tree common to South America.

Stories surrounding the drug are the stuff of urban legends, with some telling horror stories of how people were raped, forced to empty their bank accounts, and even coerced into giving up an organ.

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Danger: 'The Devil's Breath' is such a powerful drug that it can remove the capacity for free will

Danger: 'The Devil's Breath' is such a powerful drug that it can remove the capacity for free will
Deadly drug: Scopolamine is made from the Borrachero tree, which blooms with deceptively beautiful white and yellow flowers

Deadly drug: Scopolamine is made from the Borrachero tree, which blooms with deceptively beautiful white and yellow flowers

VICE’s Ryan Duffy travelled to the country to find out more about the powerful drug. In two segments, he revealed the shocking culture of another Colombian drug world, interviewing those who deal the drug and those who have fallen victim to it.

Demencia Black, a drug dealer in the capital of Bogota, said the drug is frightening for the simplicity in which it can be administered.

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He told Vice that Scopolamine can be blown in the face of a passer-by on the street, and within minutes, that person is under the drug’s effect - scopolamine is odourless and tasteless.

‘You can guide them wherever you want,’ he explained. ‘It’s like they’re a child.’

Black said that one gram of Scopolamine is similar to a gram of cocaine, but later called it ‘worse than anthrax.’

In high doses, it is lethal.
It only takes a moment: One drug dealer in Bogota explained how victims are drugged within minutes of exposure

It only takes a moment: One drug dealer in Bogota explained how victims are drugged within minutes of exposure

Victims: One Colombian woman said that under the influence of scopolamine, she led a man to her house and helped him ransack it

Victims: One Colombian woman said that under the influence of scopolamine, she led a man to her house and helped him ransack it

The drug, he said, turns people into complete zombies and blocks memories from forming. So even after the drug wears off, victims have no recollection as to what happened.

One victim told Vice that a man approached her on the street asking her for directions. Since it was close by, she helped take the man to his destination, and they drank juice together.


'You can guide them wherever you want. It’s like they’re a child.'

She took the man to her house and helped him gather all of her belongings, including her boyfriend’s cameras and savings.

‘It is painful to have lost money,’ the woman said,’ but I was actually quite lucky.’

According to the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, the drug - also known as hyoscine - causes the same level of memory loss as diazepam.

In ancient times, the drug was given to the mistresses of dead Colombian leaders – they were told to enter their master’s grave, where they were buried alive.
Devil's Breath: The drug is odourless and tasteless and can simply be blown in the face of someone on the street; their free will vanishes after being exposed to it

Devil's Breath: The drug is odourless and tasteless and can simply be blown in the face of someone on the street; their free will vanishes after being exposed to it
Dangerous: Vice's Ryan Duffy traveled to the capital of Bogota to find out more about the drug

Dangerous: Vice's Ryan Duffy traveled to the capital of Bogota to find out more about the drug

In modern times, the CIA used the drug as part of Cold War interrogations, with the hope of using it like a truth serum.

However, because of the drug’s chemical makeup, it also induces powerful hallucinations.

The tree common around Colombia, and is called the ‘borrachero’ tree – loosely translated as the 'get-you-drunk' tree.

It is said that Colombian mothers warn their children not to fall asleep under the tree, though the leafy green canopies and large yellow and white flowers seem appealing.

Experts are baffled as to why Colombia is riddled with scopolamine-related crimes, but wager much of it has to do with the country’s torn drug-culture past, and on-going civil war.

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i'd say maybe krokodil is worse.
everything is turning ppl into zombies. its not long now... survival plan alpha will come into its own.
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 03:09 #2

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By the sound of this drug, I'd agree that Krokodile is worse. Some of the pictures I've seen of the addicts are disgusting.
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 06:24 #3

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I am behind the times, gentlemen. I thought 'shake and bake' meth was the worst.
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 08:27 #4

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Whoa! :O

Never heard of either of those drugs, they both bloody scary to say the least, don't even wanna imagine a drug like Devil's breath down here in Africa! (Then again who know's may explain some of the mindless brutal crimes being committed here. And just read an article on Krokodile
Krokodil: The drug that eats junkies
terrible :(

Another drug quite common down here, usually distributed by the Nigarians, you can buy almost anything from them from Automatic weapons to most types of drugs, the most popular one is CAT and just like krokodile this is also a much cheaper substitute to for example cocaine.

Cat or Khat: Is there a difference?
While the active ingredient is methcathinone, several other easily available but extremely harmful substances are used in the manufacturing process.

Popular choices include ephedrine or pseudo-ephedrine, found in flu medication and diet pills; acetone, which is an explosive paint solvent; muriatic acid, used for sandblasting or cleaning mortar off bricks; sulphuric acid, also known as battery acid; lye, obtained from crystal drain cleaner; and toluene, a paint thinner and known precursor for manufacturing Mandrax. (IOL News)
`But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked. Oh, you can't help that,'said the Cat:`we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."`How do you know I'm mad?'said Alice.`You must be,'said the Cat,`or you wouldn't have come here.'
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 09:15 #5

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I think I must have led a very sheltered life - I hadn't heard of most of the drugs mentioned above!

I've had experience of pseudo-ephedrine though - it's commonly found in medicines such as sudafed. It clears my sinuses OK but keeps me awake literally all night (presumably that's the amphetamine effect!). Horrible!

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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 10:36 #6

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This kind of thing has always been around, though. This is from Wikki, relating to research done in 1985:


Several decades later, Wade Davis, a Harvard ethnobotanist, presented a pharmacological case for zombies in two books, The Serpent and the Rainbow (1985) and Passage of Darkness: The Ethnobiology of the Haitian Zombie (1988). Davis traveled to Haiti in 1982 and, as a result of his investigations, claimed that a living person can be turned into a zombie by two special powders being introduced into the blood stream (usually via a wound). The first, coup de poudre (French: "powder strike"), includes tetrodotoxin (TTX), a powerful and frequently fatal neurotoxin found in the flesh of the pufferfish (order Tetraodontidae). The second powder consists of dissociative drugs such as datura. Together, these powders were said to induce a death-like state in which the will of the victim would be entirely subjected to that of the bokor. Davis also popularized the story of Clairvius Narcisse, who was claimed to have succumbed to this practice.

The process described by Davis was an initial state of death-like suspended animation, followed by re-awakening — typically after being buried — into a psychotic state. The psychosis induced by the drug and psychological trauma was hypothesised by Davis to re-inforce culturally-learned beliefs and to cause the individual to reconstruct their identity as that of a zombie, since they "knew" they were dead, and had no other role to play in the Haitian society. Societal reinforcement of the belief was hypothesized by Davis to confirm for the zombie individual the zombie state, and such individuals were known to hang around in graveyards, exhibiting attitudes of low affect.

Davis' claim has been criticized, particularly the suggestion that Haitian witch doctors can keep "zombies" in a state of pharmacologically induced trance for many years.[8] Symptoms of TTX poisoning range from numbness and nausea to paralysis — particularly of the muscles of the diaphragm — unconsciousness, and death, but do not include a stiffened gait or a death-like trance. According to psychologist Terence Hines, the scientific community dismisses tetrodotoxin as the cause of this state, and Davis' assessment of the nature of the reports of Haitian zombies is viewed as overly credulous.[9]

Scottish psychiatrist R. D. Laing highlighted the link between social and cultural expectations and compulsion, in the context of schizophrenia and other mental illness, suggesting that schizogenesis may account for some of the psychological aspects of zombification.[10]



There was a film made of this ^^.

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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 10:40 #7

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The Serpent And The Rainbow is a great movie!!
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 11:22 #8

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we have just watched this and both concluded it seems exagerated.

i mean if a guy is coked up hard enough, he will act similiar.

the label most dangerous drug is a bit hipy :spliff:

the guy straightup ate one of them and seemed his usual self.

sounds much like rohypnol
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 17:04 #9

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22 wrote:
Cat or Khat: Is there a difference?
While the active ingredient is methcathinone, several other easily available but extremely harmful substances are used in the manufacturing process.

That shits rife around here and has been for nearly two years.
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 17:30 #10

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psketti wrote:
22 wrote:
Cat or Khat: Is there a difference?
While the active ingredient is methcathinone, several other easily available but extremely harmful substances are used in the manufacturing process.

That shits rife around here and has been for nearly two years.

Yes blame the skinnies for that :ar:
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 17:42 #11

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Yes blame the skinnies for that :ar:

Permit my ignorance... but the what'ies? :D
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 15 May 2012 21:04 #12

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psketti wrote:
22 wrote:
Cat or Khat: Is there a difference?
While the active ingredient is methcathinone, several other easily available but extremely harmful substances are used in the manufacturing process.

That shits rife around here and has been for nearly two years.

Longer than that.

mephedrone (methylmethcathinone) was legal in the UK uptil late 2009. Prior to that it was being sold as 'plant food' in headshops & over the internet, as long back as 2006/7.

Only those involved in the whole 'research chemicals' thing knew about it in the early days. Not a nice drug.
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 16 May 2012 10:24 #13

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diamondgeezer wrote:
psketti wrote:
22 wrote:
Cat or Khat: Is there a difference?
While the active ingredient is methcathinone, several other easily available but extremely harmful substances are used in the manufacturing process.

That shits rife around here and has been for nearly two years.

Longer than that.

Not up here DG. Back of bloody beyond round here... takes a while for things to reach us so to speak ;) :spliff:

Not a nice drug.

No it's not.
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Re: the most dangerous drug IN THE WORLD!!1! 16 May 2012 21:05 #14

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psketti wrote:
diamondgeezer wrote:
psketti wrote:
22 wrote:
Cat or Khat: Is there a difference?
While the active ingredient is methcathinone, several other easily available but extremely harmful substances are used in the manufacturing process.

That shits rife around here and has been for nearly two years.

Longer than that.

Not up here DG. Back of bloody beyond round here... takes a while for things to reach us so to speak ;) :spliff:

Not a nice drug.

No it's not.

What's that smell?

Ah...thought I'd find YOU in here. :spank:
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