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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 16 Oct 2013 23:55 #1

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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much
By Kevin Drum | Wed Oct. 16, 2013
Dr. Russell Saunders is pissed off:

As I’m sure comes as no surprise, I prescribe a lot of medications....One medication I prescribe with great frequency is albuterol, a bronchodilator. Asthma is a very common childhood illness, and one that primary care providers can often manage without consulting subspecialists.

....So I prescribe a lot of albuterol [inhalers]. Or rather, I would if they existed. Unfortunately, albuterol inhalers per se are not currently on the market. What my patients really get are prescriptions for Proventil or Ventolin or Proair. There are, at this time, precisely zero generic albuterol [inhalers] on the market.

The reason why there are none on the market and thus patients (or their insurance companies, if they are blessed with good coverage) are forced to pay for the name brands is contained in this horrifying and infuriating article about pharmaceutical pricing in the New York Times. If it does not make your blood boil, then I congratulate you for having a more even temperament than I.

I'm pretty sure that I don't have a more even temperament than Saunders, but I do have one advantage over him: I already knew what was going on with asthma inhalers even before Elisabeth Rosenthal's piece—the latest in her series about the high cost of American health care—appeared a few days ago.

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Here's the short version of the story: as Saunders says, albuterol is a cheap medication because it went off patent long ago. Then, a few years ago, as part of the campaign to eliminate CFCs and save the ozone layer, CFC-based inhalers were set to be banned. Pharmaceutical companies took advantage of this to design new delivery systems and surround them with a thicket of patents. As a result, even though albuterol itself might be off patent, only name-brand asthma inhalers are available—and since there's now no generic competition the big pharmaceutical companies are free to jack up prices to their heart's content. And they have. After all, as Rosenthal points out, this isn't like acne medicine that you can do without if it costs too much. If you have asthma, you need an inhaler, period.

Is your blood boiling? Well, wait a bit. The story is actually even worse than this. You're probably thinking that what happened here is (a) overzealous environmentalists insisted on banning CFC inhalers even though they don't really have much impact on the ozone layer, and (b) pharmaceutical companies cleverly took advantage of this to suck some extra money out of asthma sufferers.

Well, the ozone layer was the initial cause of all this, so feel free to place some of the blame on environmentalists if you like. But as it turns out, scientists raised some early concerns about the inhaler ban because the replacement for CFCs was a powerful greenhouse gas. So they suggested that maybe it was better just to make an exception for asthma inhalers and let well enough alone. At that point, the pharmaceutical companies that had been eagerly waiting for the old inhalers to be banned went on the offensive. Nick Baumann picks up the story from there:

The pharma consortium transformed from primarily an R&D outfit searching for substitutes for CFC-based inhalers into a lobbying group intent on eliminating the old inhalers. It set up shop in the K Street offices of Drinker Biddle, a major DC law firm. Between 2005 and 2010, it spent $520,000 on lobbying. (It probably spent even more; as a trade group, it's not required to disclose all of its advocacy spending.) Meanwhile, IPAC lobbied for other countries to enact similar bans, arguing that CFC-based inhalers should be eliminated for environmental reasons and replaced with the new, HFC-based inhalers.

The lobbying paid off. In 2005, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved an outright ban on many CFC-based inhalers starting in 2009. This June, the agency's ban on Aerobid, an inhaler used for acute asthma, took effect. Combivent, another popular treatment, will be phased out by the end of 2013.

In other words, pharmaceutical companies didn't just take advantage of this situation, they actively worked to create this situation. Given the minuscule impact of CFC-based inhalers on the ozone layer, it's likely that an exception could have been agreed to if pharmaceutical companies hadn't lobbied so hard to get rid of them. The result is lower-quality inhalers and fantastically higher profits for Big Pharma.

Rosenthal has a lot more detail in her piece about how the vagaries of patent law make this all even worse, and it's worth reading. But she misses the biggest story of all: none of this would matter if drug companies hadn't worked hard to make sure the old, cheap inhalers were banned. How's your blood doing now, Dr. Saunders?
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 17 Oct 2013 00:14 #2

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This just underlines everything I have said time and again about profit motive.
It does not pay to cure illness, it only pays to treat the symptoms and thats just healthcare...
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 17 Oct 2013 19:40 #3

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I cured my asthma with nicotine...true story. :coffee:
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 21:30 #4

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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 21:35 #5

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Please illustrate the connection to the OP or I request a mod delete it as spam.
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 21:53 #7

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Transylvanian transvestites are a significant cause of asthma?
Well who knew?

If you bothered to read the OP it's concerned with the economic skullduggery around the pricing of asthma inhalers , not the causal factors of the ailment itself.

You want to do a thread on that? Feel free to go do so.
You could use your 'beyond tenuous' posts above to commence that without detracting in the slightest from this thread.
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 22:03 #8

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Asthma is a very old illness, well recorded long long before we ever had so much as steam engines let alone planes.

'Dioscorides (circa 100 AD) provides us with a recipe for Kyphi in "De Materia Medica" and this is thought to be the first Greek description of the material. He confirms that Kyphi was primarily used to purify the temple but was also made into a drink which was taken as a remedy for asthma. He notes that there are a number of recipes for Kyphi and quotes one of them.'

Quoted from here-
www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/kyphi.html

I think too many people make assumptions about all sorts of ailments being purely modern, in fact there's very little that is.
Also increased population numbers and modern communications and medical technology can give the impression that there is some kind of increase going on compared to the past when there is actually no scientific evidence for that in general.
There is evidence for certain specific ailments increasing of late in certain areas, eg around chernobyl or now in japan for obvious reasons.
Its also worth noting that certain ridiculously rich and powerful people still get cancer just like everyone else...

Are we polluting and destroying our environment? Yes, however if we are then the rich are stuck in the same boat as the rest of us and are doing it simply for the purpose of remaining rich.
How exactly all this wealth and power is going to do anyone any good if we're all dead is an obvious question that just doesn't occur to these people because they live for the self and the now.
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 22:07 #9

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My daughter suffers badly from asthma, attributable to her having been born 9 1/2 weeks premature and weighing only 4lbs
I made no prior mention of this in the thread because it was of no more relevance to the OP than her last vinyl record purchases.
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 22:22 #10

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Transylvanian transvestites are a significant cause of asthma?
Well who knew?

If you bothered to read the OP it's concerned with the economic skullduggery around the pricing of asthma inhalers , not the causal factors of the ailment itself.

You want to do a thread on that? Feel free to go do so.
You could use your 'beyond tenuous' posts above to commence that without detracting in the slightest from this thread.

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Exposure to traffic pollution near busy roads can cause chronic asthma in kids..The finding came from a new study conducted in 10 European cities which found that traffic pollution is responsible for 14% of chronic childhood asthmas, showing a similar effect that passive smoking has on asthma...

I mean come on, its does not take a genius work that one out .. kinda like watching joggers run next to busy polluted roads...
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 22:25 #11

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Still has 100%, absofuckinglutely nothing to do with the subject of the OP which is about rigging the market and prices for inhalers.

Why are you now dribbling on about Deep-fried Mars Bars?
That wouldn't be some racial stereotype bullshit you'd be attempting to chuck my way now would it? Nah surely not.
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andyh wrote:
Asthma is a very old illness, well recorded long long before we ever had so much as steam engines let alone planes.

'Dioscorides (circa 100 AD) provides us with a recipe for Kyphi in "De Materia Medica" and this is thought to be the first Greek description of the material. He confirms that Kyphi was primarily used to purify the temple but was also made into a drink which was taken as a remedy for asthma. He notes that there are a number of recipes for Kyphi and quotes one of them.'

Quoted from here-
www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/kyphi.html

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Maybe it was the Pyramid stone dust that the slave's were breathing in that caused it ...

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Still has 100%, absofuckinglutely nothing to do with the subject of the OP which is about rigging the market and prices for inhalers.

Why are you now dribbling on about Deep-fried Mars Bars?
That wouldn't be some racial stereotype bullshit you'd be attempting to chuck my way now would it? Nah surely not.

People dont really help themselves really do they...what with the shit they eat and all...

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www.medscape.com/viewarticle/779819
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 22:47 #15

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Well there's another thread trashed with your disjointed, inane ramblings. :bla:

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Well there's another thread trashed with your disjointed, inane ramblings. :bla:

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I suppose you could always move next to a Nuclear power station...Save you a bob or 2 on Inhalers,the uranium 235 may help cure it......
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 22:59 #17

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Useful advice there.
If I ever contract asthma I'll give it my fullest consideration. :coffee:


Excuse my intrusion and please feel free not to answer if it's all too traumatic for you but ...
Were there any other survivors of your collision?
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Here's Why Your Asthma Inhaler Costs So Damn Much 18 Oct 2013 23:10 #18

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LightGiver wrote:
Maybe it was the Pyramid stone dust that the slave's were breathing in that caused it ...

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andyh wrote:
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Maybe it was the Pyramid stone dust that the slave's were breathing in that caused it ...

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Be fair man. It could have just been a damn hellish windy day that blew all that dust from Egypt to Greece.

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Or maybe they were just randomly born with it back then as they are now.
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