Who put that in the media zone?
This sort of stuff I love (stuff that admits and shows the DECLINE in population expected).

Can you comment on the vid at all?

Don't know about the comment bit but it will have been frog that put it there

Repost it here if you can't comment there.

Deffo one to watch when I get back for sure

www.demographicwinter.com

Well I've watched it and what can I say?
It basically totally vindicates everything I said on DIF in 'that' thread

(for those who don't remember it was called 'the fear of having children')

It caused quite an emotional response, more than I expected and surprisingly few backed me up at the time, instead choosing to believe the MSM lie that we are overpopulated and that kids are a waste of time etc.

It was sad to see that Ted Turner was getting exactly what he wanted. IMHO the elite KNOW about this fertility decline and have done so for quite some time and they expect economic collapse hence the changes I expect to come into force soon.

Personally I buck the trend, I'm not religious yet I have a wife of 15 years and 4 kids. Its actually not common and it scares me to see it tbh. Pension ages are going up and up as govts struggle to maintain the paradigm...its really about peak everything, the economy is going into irreversible nosedive.

Bump!

Everyone should watch this, it has the truth about whats going to happen to the worlds population instead of what Ted Turner and his MSM are trying to shovel down your throat.

everyone that watches it should read this first ,
www.religiondispatches.org/archive/sexan...tion_doc_have_a_past

run to the bedrooms we are being out bred ,
The New York Times covered in depth this past weekend, there is also a very pointed agenda below what Jacoby calls the “compelling” documentary—the right-wing conception of family hierarchy, gender and individual rights mentioned above—as well as a coalition of supporters behind the documentary with a history of courting allies through coded racial arguments and covert appeals to nationalism. The profamily advocates who supported the film, and everyone on the board of directors for the Family First Foundation, are all tied through participation in the main conservative organ for advancing the depopulation argument, the World Congress of Families. The WCF, a meeting ground for all of America’s top Christian right organizations, as well as a wide range of international groups, has appealed to Europeans anxious not just about falling birthrates, but also about rising Muslim populations, with indelicate comparisons between today’s culturally-shifting continent, and Muslim-Christian holy wars of the Middle Ages through the 1600s. And WCF member organizations, and the WCF itself, have further aligned themselves with deeply nationalistic and xenophobic groups with anti-Muslim or anti-Semitic ties across Eastern Europe, recognizing fertile ground for traditionalistic, pronatalist arguments when they see it

andyh wrote: I will get around to watching the film at some point. I didn't know much about this until you pointed it out, but when I looked into it, it's really quite well established and not remotely contentious. I don't think anyone even contests that it's happening. You can read about the ageing of Europe here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Europe

And the ageing of Japan here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aging_of_Japan

And the ageing of the United States here:

www.prb.org/Publications/PopulationBulle...ging-population.aspx

mushy wrote:
Its irrelevant tbh. The fertility rate ARE well below 2.1 all across the developed world.
Japan faces total economic ruin first, the disasters they have had will only compound it.

Also I fail to see why a group that backs depopulation would back a documentary that talks about needing to have more kids!!
Are they mormons too? lol

wake_up_bomb wrote:
^If you'd rather pay attention to a radical feminist who thinks the worlds overpopulated and we should cull everyone then you're having too many pop tarts for breakfast mushy

andyh wrote: its irevelant? ,
its about the backeounds of the people who made it ffs lol
thats like saying spielberg had no part in making et lol
its covert fuckwittery and its looking like ots been rumbled .

andyh wrote:
i dont have. a problem with woman andyh
if a person talks shite i wouldnt bring gender in to it tbh
but there you go
you think corn syrups satans urine and i know it isnt
blueberry and rasberry tarts yum .

mushy wrote:
Apparently you have an issue with scientific fact?
The population IS greying all over the western world, this is a fact mushy.
The video does seem to mention that a return to family values might help but I doubt it. I fail to see how religion and family values are good for jack shit in the face of a corrupt financial system.
Apart from that, the video is bang on.

andyh wrote:
the video says ,
western nations economies arent growing when they should be due to less people having.
children ,
yes ,
this fro the same school of thought in the 80s
90s that ecouraged working parents and kids in
day care and nurseries ,
oh and currentley blasting maternity leave in some countries ,

now you dont see a puppet master type hypocrysy in that or acknowledge the current rise in these radical creationists /pro life groups that this lot apear to be connected with

the figures are one part of a big cultural picture
western nations are at an all time high population but its slowing and productivity isnt
enjoying the lapse especially as it coincides with financial meltdowns worldwide
so you see it looks like this crowd arent offering solutions because theres no problem what they are perhaps doing is blaming others and our failing christian values in an attempt to promote radical political change and economic
structures for much loftier purposes than the good of mankind .

i look at the backrounds in that video and the website hosting winter vid and my spider senses nearly orgasmed ,
goverments react to public opinion and if tgese guys are influencing public opinion and the message is pro life (almost creationist in thee tone ) and african asian continents are racing ahead financially because they must be (by the logic applied ) more like we should be then
that is not something im giving a lumpy fart to .

mushy wrote: More kids does give rise to expansion, its also fact
Do you think that as the people grow old and everyone has to sub pensioners that we're going to have expansion ffs?
Also whats wrong with being pro-life?
Want to cull everyone mushy?

So now theres some kind of political change needed to solve this greying population?
Jesus, there's massive change needed alright anyway, isn't that what we're all here for in the first place in recognising that little fact? Or do you want things to stay the way they are?
Again , are you pro Ted Turner Mushy??

I doubt they are influencing public opinion much here other than to pass on some FACTS which you keep AVOIDING mentioning Mushy..why??

If anyones spidey senses are tingling here pal its mine...are you a NWO shill who wants to cull 80% of the planet because you sure as hell sound like it.

The baby boomer's are getting to the point of retirement, that's going to be a huge problem for the finacial system hence all these superannuation investments, due to the hard economic times of western economies people are reluctant to have children and the taxes collected from the young/middle age is getting less. Australia had this problem a decade ago the government in power at the time bought in a baby bonus, if you had children you'd get $5000.00 of the government, they've stopped that now.

Religious organizations what you to have more children so that they can keep their power base up, that's their motivation.

The world can support a larger number of people it's a fact, you could fit all the people into Australia 5 times over.

The Georgian Guidestones tell us that want to reduce the population 500 M they've put it up in plain site, telling us what they are going to do.

I've fathered 6 children

andyh wrote:
keep talking wow keep talking ,
im a nwo shill
lol
i addressed the facts regarding the stats it was intent i had issue with ,
i explained that at lengh but you choose to ignore that and defend the intent ????

rape victims and teenage girls unwanted pregnancies etc
you pro lifers would take the kids into care split families up or is it the case you would sit rapists down with victims and make them do the honest thing ?

Boots wrote:
Mission accomplished so long as they are patient by the looks.

Sure the population will peak but its all downhill from there. Historically various areas/empires etc never recovered from such low fertility rates.
I reckon all the crap in the food only helps it along.

Boots wrote:
nearly every ntion in europe has vast un populated areas
its economic growth and servitude through beliefs in dieties
ita exploitation plain and simple and if people dont expose themselves to educations then
they leave themselves expossed to charlatans
its not rocket science sergei the meteorite meerkat lol ( had to say that for some spasmodic reason )

mushy wrote: Erm nope, you completely ignored the stats altogether.
The vast majority of the video was about fertility decline and its quite factual.
Its the mention of the 'patriarchal' family unit that gets the lesbo lefty feminist's knickers in a twist.


Look, its as simple as this, the pro/anti crowd are really talking about govt involvement in their lives.
Do you think abortion didn't go on before the NHS for example? :p

There are 100,000 abortions a year in the UK, it is actually the greatest cause of death...do you need a link for it?

It's about being pro-freedom at the end of the day and the 'pro-choice' crowd really just want some cheap contraception.
Remove the govt help and watch the girls slap their legs shut and the lads think twice.
Its that simple, stop babying people and let them grow up.
Govt just need stuff like the NHS as an excuse to rape people of half their earnings because they're too lazy/stupid to use a govt treasury for its intended purpose.

Like I say..you're just trying to dance away from showing your true colours here.
Give everyone guns, legalise drugs, get rid of taxation and get rid of stupid politicians and whimpering wimps who need a nanny state to wipe their arse.