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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 17:22 #1

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www.crimethinc.com/tools/posters/work_pyramid_front.pdf

^Someone post this as a picture i can't save it to my computer.
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 17:52 #2

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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 17:55 #3

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maybe too small, well i tried :)
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 19:13 #4

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Mike wrote:
maybe too small, well i tried :)

CTRL and + a few times usually sorts it :)


/laughs quietly at ppl who can then not zoom back to normal again...
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 20:41 #5

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andyh wrote:
Mike wrote:
maybe too small, well i tried :)

CTRL and + a few times usually sorts it :)


/laughs quietly at ppl who can then not zoom back to normal again...

Bah! Now I'm not sure if it's back to normal or not. It looks a bit small now maybe...or not? curse you with your stupid button pressing!!!!

Nice pic though. :thumbup:
Last Edit: 18 Feb 2013 20:42 by dogsmilk.
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 20:47 #6

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This relates to the "base superstructure" analogy in Marx.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_and_superstructure
In Marxist theory, human society consists of two parts: the base and superstructure; the base comprehends the forces and relations of production — employer-employee work conditions, the technical division of labour, and property relations — into which people enter to produce the necessities and amenities of life. These relations determine society’s other relationships and ideas, which are described as its superstructure. The superstructure of a society includes its culture, institutions, political power structures, roles, rituals, and state. The base determines (conditions) the superstructure, yet their relation is not strictly causal, because the superstructure often influences the base; the influence of the base, however, predominates.
In the social production of their existence, men inevitably enter into definite relations, which are independent of their will, namely [the] relations of production appropriate to a given stage in the development of their material forces of production. The totality of these relations of production constitutes the economic structure of society, the real foundation, on which arises a legal and political superstructure, and to which correspond definite forms of consciousness.

Interesting contribitions from Gramsci, Reich and others came later.
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 20:57 #7

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Now more than ever the productive actions of the Proletarian/Labour forces are increasingly irrelevant, they could be producing lines of binary the point is they receive money with which to consume it doesn't matter what they're producing their wealth is in the ability to consume.
I think the picture is right to include a kind of underground base, prison labour, outsourced labour, and mechanized agriculture that sustains the production of commodities and consumers, this correlates to the Workhouse when many thousands were forced to work, forced to produce, forced to create excess wealth for factory owners, many laws were introduced to confine the "mad", "Idle", "Libertine" etc.
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 23:18 #8

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Can someone give me a brief definition of capitalism because i always thought it was a system that was not based on so called private LTD companies being so heavily subsidised by the tax payer.

I don't actually believe many of the private owned LTD companies would be surviving without these handouts from the tax payer,it's a complete lie this so called capitalist system,it needs a new name ASAP.
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 23:29 #9

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Cuntism?
Has a nice ring to it. & a few hairs.
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Capitalist Pyramid 18 Feb 2013 23:38 #10

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Cuntism?
Has a nice ring to it. & a few hairs.

Works for me.
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Capitalist Pyramid 19 Feb 2013 01:21 #11

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Space Bandit wrote:
Cuntism?
Has a nice ring to it. & a few hairs.

Would that make you an 'anti-cuntist'.

I certainly am and long shall I remain so. :coffee:
What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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Capitalist Pyramid 19 Feb 2013 02:02 #12

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humanspirit wrote:
Can someone give me a brief definition of capitalism because i always thought it was a system that was not based on so called private LTD companies being so heavily subsidised by the tax payer.

I don't actually believe many of the private owned LTD companies would be surviving without these handouts from the tax payer,it's a complete lie this so called capitalist system,it needs a new name ASAP.
Why? The historical foundation of modern civilisation is Capitalism.
Capitalism is defined as a social and economic system where capital assets are mainly owned and controlled by private persons, where labor is purchased for money wages, capital gains accrue to private owners, and the price mechanism is utilized to allocate capital goods between uses. The extent to which the price mechanism is used, the degree of competitiveness, and government intervention in markets distinguish exact forms of capitalism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
Just because people soon learned they had to tinker with the motor to keep it running "efficiently" and there are various geographical and cultural adaptations of Capitalism, Liberal Democratic, State, Cartel, Lassaiz Faire etc does not mean it is not Capitalism, it's just capitalism on a different Operating system :)
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Capitalist Pyramid 19 Feb 2013 23:07 #13

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Mike wrote:
Why? The historical foundation of modern civilisation is Capitalism.

If you consider civilisation to consist of slavery,massive land grabs,endless murders then you are correct. : )

So subsidising private LTD companies is capitalism?

Makes no sense as the subsidies are from the people in the form of taxes,so where is the competitiveness that bullshit business people like to talk about?

Lies,Lies,Lies

Since 1999 NESTLE UK LTD 804817 has received €196,777,997 in payments from the European Union.

farmsubsidy.org/GB/recipient/GB131541/nestle-uk-ltd-804817/

That's just the UK arm of Nestle.

Fucking spongers!
They should get a real business,all this EU subsidising was a fake competition with the promotion of capitalism over communism using tax payers money which started after the second world war.
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Last Edit: 19 Feb 2013 23:09 by humanspirit.
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Capitalist Pyramid 19 Feb 2013 23:14 #14

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Game theory :)
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