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Holographic Stuff? 31 Jan 2017 12:34 #1

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Hi everyone and I hope you are all well.

Just thought I would post this little news snippet here to ask: is science catching up on ancient philosophy, perhaps?

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/is-the-univ...=BBoPWjQ&ocid=TSHDHP

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Holographic Stuff? 31 Jan 2017 14:42 #2

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I think some scientists have been there for a while but mainstream 'science' has belittled, poo-pooed and sniggered at them to the point of ostracizing.
That article is a bit late on the scene and contains rather scant information but hey, at least they mentioned it :D

Hope that the elbow is healing up nicely and not too uncomfortable :hug:
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Holographic Stuff? 31 Jan 2017 20:31 #3

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Yes, it is just a snippet, dubs - but I'm not up to much typing right now. The "healing" of my arm is long, tedious, aching, wearisome, disabling and prevents rest and sleep - but I won't go into too much of a litany of complaint now. I will just advise: don't get me started! :D :hug:
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Take something that costs you nothing but effort;
And practice, practice, practice until you make it something fabulous.

"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
If he undaunted be....". (Beowulf)....
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Holographic Stuff? 01 Feb 2017 19:04 #4

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If I hide under here it might be safe to get you started :D
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Holographic Stuff? 12 Feb 2017 20:28 #5

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Ah, dubs, dubs, dubs... everything hurts and is so difficult. And the house of cards that I knew as my home and life collapsed so easily around me.

All is a holograph for sure, in one way or another.

Meanwhile, in a desolate attempt to "entertain" and occupy myself, I have been watching some old shows on youtube, including The Invaders from 1967/68 - which used to terrify me as a child! - and this episode seems to fit in nicely with my theme here. From 50 years ago:



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Holographic Stuff? 12 Feb 2017 21:43 #6

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Harramein has the theory (and it seems to resonate with me) that....
With the density of the vacuum being infinite, we exist in a black hole/whole. Now, standard physics gives the vacuum density a finite number and builds calculations from that 'renormalization'. This is because infinities do not make for easy mathematics. So give the density a finite, albeit huge value and you can do some maths stuff :)
The issue is that when building a model/view of reality from there, you're building it on a fudge, a falsehood.
If it's accepted that 'space' is actually infinitely dense, it can reasonably be suggested that the universe does indeed meet the conditions of a black hole. From there it's not hard to grip that what we perceive as time and space are nowt but information within that black hole/whole. Illusion you could say. An illusion of separateness and movement. This ties in with Bohm and Co's holographic theory rather neatly. That what we perceive as reality is just information or to put it another way, rather like a program contained within an infinitely large hard drive. We perceive life within the program to be 'reality' whereas it's just a limited expression of data contained in an infinite sea of nothing/everything.

Of course, going with the analogy, you still have to wonder about the hard drive itself :D

Hope that the pain, discomfort and inconvenience are on the wane :hug:
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Holographic Stuff? 12 Feb 2017 22:46 #7

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Oooo, I'll look into that theory, ta-ever-so, dubs. :)
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Take something that costs you nothing but effort;
And practice, practice, practice until you make it something fabulous.

"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
If he undaunted be....". (Beowulf)....
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Holographic Stuff? 13 Feb 2017 13:54 #8

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my limbless friend will die alone
a torso of flesh upon the throne

Violence is not the answer, it is the question. the answer is yes.
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Holographic Stuff? 13 Feb 2017 15:45 #9

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Bats - unless you are a simulation too, post more often! It's good to hear from you. I hope all is well in your part of the picture show. :)
There is no such thing as Thin Air: Thin Air is full of the particles of creation.

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And practice, practice, practice until you make it something fabulous.

"...Wyrde saves oft the man undoomed
If he undaunted be....". (Beowulf)....
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Holographic Stuff? 15 Feb 2017 12:25 #10

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G'day Bayou.

Interesting idea that is used in The 13th Floor. The issue with it all being a simulation is the logical fallacy of infinite regress.

Even if there is some aspect that is a simulation, someone / something created the first simulation. So logically it wouldn't all be a simulation. At some point, some where, there is something other than the simulation, that in fact, the simulation only exists because it comes out of that other something.

Instead, what if you are a Singularity Of Unique Light (microcosm) that is using mind and body as a focal point to shine through as a representation of the Source Of Universal Light (macrocosm) to experience Who You Are choosing to BE within/as ALL THAT IS?
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
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