Myth: The World is Running Out of Oil (Peak Oil Theory) - YouTube



We have enough oil and other carbon based fuels for hundreds of years. ... What Will Running ...

We will always have oil, the question is not will we run out of oil.
The question is, will we run out of CHEAP oil.

andyh wrote:
We already have...or haven't you noticed ....the vid is 3 years old btw.....a lot has happened in the last 3 years

The YT account that uploaded this vid, also uploaded a few Shale Oil apologetics vids too.

That's fracking, for those who may not know the connection.

angelchemuel wrote:
Well if you mean shitloads of taxation then aye

Oil hasn't gone up much its still around $100 a barrel , tax has on the end product ofc.

One of the things to bear in mind is that oil consumption is actually increasing.

www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/about-bp/...oil-consumption.html
And there are many powerful vested interests that want it to go on growing. Can this be sustained indefinitely? For me, it's pretty obvious that it cannot.

www.edfenergy.com/energyfuture/energy-ga...-energy-gap-quantity

The nazis made synthetic oil. It wasn't all just about being evil.

Space Bandit wrote:
Sassol.
Its coal based so still costs, in fact it costs even more than light crude which is what's cheapest as its easiest to extract and refine.
So again, its about the cost of extracting the resource and not the amount left, people keep making that mistake and associating peak oil with running out of oil when peak oil is simply about a maximum rate of extraction, it has little or nothing to do with how much oil is actually left.

Surely all possible effort should go into producing the best electric car possible. There is one that can drive right across the United States now, albeit not as quite a direct route as a petrol car, but this will be possible in the near future. They only sell about 2,000 per month, though.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
The trouble with them is that you can't drive hundreds of miles and then fill up in 5 minutes and drive another few hundred miles.
The only electric cars capable of managing that kind of thing would require constant external power such as provided to trains/trams.

At the moment they do 50 miles and need a day to charge. Not only that but very few public charging points.
Electric motorbikes are a wee bit better but despite their smaller size and weight the difference is still small. Certainly good enough for round town trips though and I'd encourage them for city use or burbs shopping trips perhaps.

Beyond that we're left with public transport which sucks donkey balls in the UK. Every aspect of our lives on this planet are controlled by profit instead of purpose. Everything is designed to group people into cities instead of spreading them out, all to better serve the companies bottom line despite broadband rollout, intead of telecommuting people are expected to travel into work during office hours and THEN work on top of that (often unpaid) OUTSIDE office hours.

Its so easy to see and its a growing phenomenon. Everything is twisted totally out of context and away from original intent.

andyh wrote: I think they can do about 200 miles on about a 30 minute charge now. I realise people probably want something more convenient than that, though. I would have thought it was to some extent negated by the fact that your car essentially has no running costs, also I would go bonkers if I had to drive further than 200 miles anyway.

You see the budget and the reporting of it today and it's all total insanity, so there is not much hope that things will improve.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
I've not seen anything that can do 200 miles on a 30min charge, even electric pushbikes are topping out at around 50 mile range from what I can see and around 8 hour charge for it.

andyh wrote: The only reason I know about this is because I've been asked to write a few articles about it, otherwise I know nothing about cars whatsoever:

ecomento.com/2014/02/10/tesla-supercharg...iles-per-hour-video/
Obviously that's coming from the company itself so has to be taken with a pinch of salt, but I'm presuming that they can't make completely outrageous claims. They're stating elsewhere that they'll be able to have a car travel 1,000 miles on one charge by 2020.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Ah, future predicted models with these specific 135KW charging stations lol

They can make outrageous claims btw, they've done it already with the renault fluence/zoe for example, lets face it the claims they make about mpg on petrol or diesel models are complete bollocks too

At the moment they're talking about 20 - 30 thousand pound cars with a 80 quid a month battery lease on the damn things that can go 60 or 70 miles if you're lucky and then need charging all night and have repair costs up the wazoo and the only place you can charge for certain would be at home because theres so few charging stations.

Then to add insult to injury nearly all the electricity to power the vehicle was supplied by fossil fuels in the first place
Then there's all the energy and resources that went in to making the stupid things in the first place

Its a sad fact that over a century after the motor vehicle was made the greenest thing you can do is buy a cheap old car, make the most out of it and then send it to the scrapyard. It is that person who does this who is the greenest of them all but media and hype and so called environmentalists who ought to know better try to convince people otherwise.

I'm in favour of electric assist bikes but they're the only 'new' green solution that is actually carbon efficient (and efficient in terms of other resources too). We are still a long way of producing anything to compete with the internal combustion engine and we never will for a long while yet because there is not yet the profit motive to do so.

andyh wrote: Obviously that's a massive problem! However, I do think that anything which reduces oil reliance / consumption is going to be good in the short-term because I can't see any other scenario other than there being massive problems related to it in my lifetime. In the long-term, obviously a completely new and sustainable economic model would be advisable, but I just don't see that happening, and I will be long gone if it ever does.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
I think it will happen but only after quite some turmoil and pain for considerable time until alternatives become profitable enough.
Geothermal energy is abundant as all hell but not the will to use it yet, simple as

Just about everything is based on petroleum not ONLY the car,
The heat in winter, airplanes , buses to deliver food to supermarkets, and for transportation.
Metro, and Lots of other things.

Time to change then, eh?

mikey mikey wrote:
Absolutely