Sure the mods at DIF can ban people people and lock threads because Icke is famous.

No wonder David Icke and Alex Jones have the conspiracy world almost all to themselves.

People try to start forums like this one and people just wan't to bitch and complain.

Nobody should ever get banned from a forum unless they post videos of death and mutilation.

No thread should ever be locked or removed by the words of someone no matter how controversial.

In a world with so much pain and tragedy why are people on conspiracy forums so sensitive?

If a certain topic is to much for you just leave it alone, how simple is that?

The staff here has given up and started a new forum because we just can't get along.

Im sure Andy will do a good job here but it should have never come to this.

As sensitive as people are here i don't know how anyone can survive the real world.

I really hope i'm not just another ignorant desensitised American.

At least on Icke's forum there is alot of members to hear what people have to say.

I just noticed a thread i made over there had 25 thousand views in less than a year.

All it takes here is for a handful of people to not get along and this forum is about to shut down.

I think we're all a bit desensitized after all these years. But also in searching for truth, and learning about all the bad shit that happens outside of our own little personal bubble, somewhere along the lines I think a lot of us have become empathic... capable of understanding someone elses view, capable of feeling what someone else feels and in becoming that way, we don't want to see any more pain or hurt. We don't want to cause pain or hurt on other people. Yeah, there is still a few people I'd like to skin alive and I would shed no tears and feel no guilt about doing so, but I feel sorry for people. If we can't be sensitive to each other, and other people, how are we any better than those in control? How can we expect to try and change the world?

Being sensitive, does not diminish a person, or a community (even the truth movement), all it does is widen their view and while some may become less and less sensitive because of it (been there, still there some days), others may become more and more sensitive because of it. I still struggle with even being tolerant of myself, there are many days I wanna say "fuck the world and their bullshit" and either disappear or take my own life because of shit I've seen, things I've gone through and experienced. It's a day to day fight just to keep breathing and not turn my back on the world (including my son).

I have no idea if that made any sense or was even on topic, but that is what came to mind when I read your OP.

StarsChildren wrote:
But in the case of this forum people are being sensitive about insignificant things... imo

It takes a long time for people to change the world and make it a better place.

On conspiracy forums everyone wants to criticize the western world for example.

Yet nobody want's to move to the 3rd world where people are more tribal and primitive.

Nobody want's to live in the desert and have their limbs ripped off by a pack of Lions.

Nobody wan'ts to live in the forest and have their skin ripped off by the paws of a grizzly bear.

Nobody want's to swim in the wrong river and be ate by crocodiles or swallowed by anacondas.

Nobody want's to be shot by a teenager in the ghetto with a tribal mind.

Nobody want's to deal with the harsh realities of real life.

People join forums like this hoping to have a voice in changing the world.

Then they realize a handful of bored people bickering over petty shit could shut this place down.

RealAmerican wrote:
Leading my example, for one... talking to people, for two... sharing what we have learned, as knowledge is a free thing, and wisdom comes to any who listen. Everyone is capable of learning.
RealAmerican wrote:
Maybe so...
RealAmerican wrote: Yes, it takes a long time. But if we don't start a change now, what do we leave our children? What example, what legacy, do we leave future generations? Will it be something they can look back on and be proud of what we started, or will they look back and be ashamed?
RealAmerican wrote:
I would... I'd like to move out with tribal people, maybe I'd find a place I finally felt I belonged instead of this "western" world where everything is materialistic in nature. Of course, I'd miss my computer so I could talk to you lot, but unfortunately, it's a sacrifice I'd make if I have the means to get the fuck out of here.
RealAmerican wrote: If you live at one with them, do not threaten their territoritory by moving in and expecting them to bow down because you are human, you respect each others way of life and own personal boundaries, changes are, the lions will not each you and the bears will not maul you.
RealAmerican wrote:
Don't go in the water without first checking the contents... common sense tells you, don't swim with crocodiles or snakes... and they are probably similar to sharks, they don't like the taste of human
RealAmerican wrote:
Nobody wants to be in the ghetto thanks to what society has created. Not even those who live there.
RealAmerican wrote:
You're right... I don't, because the more I am exposed, the more the world seems wrong and I don't know how to make it right. And the harsh reality is, from my view, the world is fucked and I'd rather not be here at all...even my dreams are plagued by the wrong, by the screams I can't shake, and by the blood I still feel running down my face, I still feel it and smell it day in and day out. But I can't leave it as it is for my son to grow up in a prison and be ashamed when he looks back and doesn't see his mother trying to make a difference, even if only in our life...and that hurts the most, to think I can't even make a difference for his future, not counting everyone else, just him...
RealAmerican wrote:
Agreed... but maybe we should change that, maybe that is the one thing we can change.

StarsChil­dren the true reality is that people like you, me and others on this forum are the minority of humans.

If the majority of people wanted a revolution they would protest the Military Industrial Complex.

Once the weapons manufactures get shut down there will be no army's to protect the wealthy elite.

And just like that the world would change, it's that easy.

Agreed.

And on the other two comments you made... if we are the minority, why don't we do something to change it? Show people what a difference it would make, start here...get people on this forum to get along for 5 minutes straight, maybe even agree on a community being built among us and show people (the outside world) how well it could work if people just worked together. Once they see it functioning, once it is in front of them and they can't deny it, maybe, just maybe, it would open their eyes and bring about the change we want to see in the world. Years it may take, but it would be something worth leaving behind after we leave this world behind.

StarsChildren wrote:
I agree without a doubt...

I really wan't to engage in that dialog but people on forums like this always get caught up in petty bickering.

You know why? (Because people are fucking sensitive and that is why I felt the need to make this thread)

There are no plans to close this site down, RA.

Plus, you have the opportunity to take part in both sites if you want to. It's not difficult to have 2 browsers open unless you're on a cell phone.

Being able to trust people we interact with, and have mutual respect may seem 'petty' to you. That's fine. They're things that are very important to myself and plenty of others.

ra you seem to labour under many illusions. like such a thing as a truth movement exists......it doesnt.....

i think this is an instance of you chattin shit personally.

dubmeup wrote:
9/11 truth, David Icke & Alex Jones followers, conspiracy theorist all fall under the truth movement label.

Even the new Forum is called "Truth Zone".

which doesnt change the simple fact that the truth movement is just a phrase tossed around the internet. many of the so called truthers in fact chat shit. like icke, jones, no planers, race realists etc. if it does exist in any form its as an umbrella tag to hide bs and mistruth under in the main.

dubmeup wrote:
i think you're right.. some people will believe in things just to be part of a group that thinks alike.

dubmeup wrote:
Am I wrong to assume this forum falls under the label of truth move­ment?

Complaints about "PC police" and "sensitivity" are usually made in fourms like these by people who want their ideological opponents to debate with one arm tied behind their back.

mikey mikey wrote:
I'm confused please explain...

RealAmerican wrote:
When arguing effectively suddenly become "trying to silence"

When complaints of "zionist-marxist-commies" start calling people "nazi"

When jokes about jews/blacks/gypsies/muslims is all about bucking PCism but jokes about nazis/racists/bigots is "hate" and "baiting".

Would you like quotes, names and links?

RealAmerican wrote:
yes i think you probably are

mikey mikey wrote:
What does bucking PCism mean?

Is that European?

RealAmerican wrote:
PCism in a google search

Top result: "PCism in America"

www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q...b9f&biw=1311&bih=618