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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 15:06 #1

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Come on Leo, do your bit for the bank bailouts:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22877408
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 15:49 #2

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He owes them 4m euros. 3 months wages.

Probably get a small fine and handout some signed shirts.
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 20:30 #3

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Seems the thing that the more money people get, the more they want to hold on to it (and are able to, because they can afford decent accountants..) :yerright:
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 21:48 #4

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vizier wrote:
Seems the thing that the more money people get, the more they want to hold on to it (and are able to, because they can afford decent accountants..) :yerright:
TBF, Messi will pay 10 million in direct taxation every year as an employee of FC Barcelona.
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 22:09 #5

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I hadn't realised that Spain's tax laws were so stringent. I knew that France's were.
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 22:14 #6

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vizier wrote:
I hadn't realised that Spain's tax laws were so stringent. I knew that France's were.
They changed the tax laws recently under IMF instruction AFAIK. Messi pays 52% tax on his income. The amount he's 'evading' here will be related to endorsements.

Having said that, Britain is equally bad that's why you're not seeing any of the top players, apart from Murray, at Queen's this year because they get taxed so heavily none of them want to play here any more.
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 22:57 #7

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
vizier wrote:
I hadn't realised that Spain's tax laws were so stringent. I knew that France's were.
They changed the tax laws recently under IMF instruction AFAIK. Messi pays 52% tax on his income. The amount he's 'evading' here will be related to endorsements.

Having said that, Britain is equally bad that's why you're not seeing any of the top players, apart from Murray, at Queen's this year because they get taxed so heavily none of them want to play here any more.

Which kind of reiterates the point I was making. These guys earn shitloads, but don't want to lose so much in Tax, so they won't play the smaller tournaments. Whereas all of us PAYE fodder, just get it taken at source.
Beckham playing for PSG for a year for charity was actually a tax dodge as he would have been tax on worldwide earnings for the year had he been paid in France.. (presumably the same happens over here then).
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 23:02 #8

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Which kind of reiterates the point I was making. These guys earn shitloads, but don't want to lose so much in Tax, so they won't play the smaller tournaments. Whereas all of us PAYE fodder, just get it taken at source.
Beckham playing for PSG for a year for charity was actually a tax dodge as he would have been tax on worldwide earnings for the year had he been paid in France.. (presumably the same happens over here then).
Possibly. I don't have any objection to people with vast salaries making a large contribution, but Messi has contributed on his own more than entire corporations do. As to what the top sportsmen contribute in tax collectively, it must be astronomical.

Obviously, totally agree about the PAYE, that goes without saying.
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 12 Jun 2013 23:12 #9

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If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
Fuck it all basically.
Icke and Jones are self employed too ofc but they don't bother to mention it...
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 13 Jun 2013 13:45 #10

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
vizier wrote:
I hadn't realised that Spain's tax laws were so stringent. I knew that France's were.
They changed the tax laws recently under IMF instruction AFAIK. Messi pays 52% tax on his income. The amount he's 'evading' here will be related to endorsements.

Having said that, Britain is equally bad that's why you're not seeing any of the top players, apart from Murray, at Queen's this year because they get taxed so heavily none of them want to play here any more.

We must try to get them back in the UK.

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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 04 Sep 2013 22:29 #11

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www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3277/la-liga/201...ud-case?ICID=HP_BN_3
Lionel Messi and his father have paid €5 million (£4.2m) to Spanish authorities as part of an investigation into alleged tax fraud, a court statement has revealed.

The Barcelona star was accused of "hiding" more than €4m (£3.4m) earlier this year having failed to file complete tax returns between 2006 and 2009, although both the 26-year-old and his senior denied all wrongdoing.

A court in Gava has now confirmed that the duo have made a "corrective payment" of €5,016,542.27, though they will still be required to attend a legal hearing on September 17.

"We have our lawyers and our wealth managers to take care of that and we trust them and they will sort this out," Messi said of the issue earlier this summer.

"The truth is that I don't have a clue about all this and that is why we have people taking care of it."

Messi earns a combined total of more than €40m (£33.8m) per year through wages and sponsorship deals, placing him 10th on the latest Forbes rich list for athletes.

The Argentina international is not the only top-level football professional to become embroiled in tax problems this year. At the end of July, Bayern Munich president Uli Hoeness was formally charged with tax fraud after failing to declare on a Swiss bank account.
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Lionel Messi Investigated for Tax Evasion 08 Nov 2013 19:08 #12

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The Professional Union of Football Clubs has said that the 75 percent tax on salaries that France is enforcing to fill its depleted financial coffers, risks to 'kill' French football.

According to CNN, teams are threatening to boycott matches in protest, and the controversy was sparked when President Francois Hollande refused to exclude soccer clubs from the hefty tax, after meeting with industry representatives on Thursday.

The Socialist leader's assault on top earners is part of efforts to shrink France's massive budget deficit and support the sagging economy, the report said.

Employers must pay the levy on salaries exceeding 1 million euros a year and will apply for two years, the report added.

The league plans to strike in protest later this month, the first boycott of its kind in more than 40 years, the report further said.

French clubs are already under financial strain amid declining ticket sales and reduced incomes from television rights, according to the report.

They argue the tax will make the league less competitive and fear losing players to high-paying European rivals, the report mentioned.
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