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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 13:44 #1

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www.breakingnews.ie/world/prisons-operat...-details-604288.html
Prisoners in the UK are being employed to gather insurance details from members of the public at call centres set up inside prisons, it has been reported.
The Ministry of Justice confirmed prisoners are working as call centre operatives at HMP Oakwood in Wolverhampton and HMP Drake Hall in Staffordshire.

and guess who...
privately by security firm G4S, is a prison for men.

G4S who have have been investigated for fraud themselves

Inmates running the asylum?

pish

This is crooks running the big house
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 14:27 #2

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We are so fucked as a society, we really are totally fucked. I thank God that I found something I enjoy doing that will last indefinitely, that I can go anywhere in the world and still do it, and earn enough to live reasonably. God help kids growing up this society now; if they don't inherit housing their best case scenario is that they'll work until they die.

This isn't even illegal, in fact it's being openly encouraged in the middle of a massive depression! No, sorry, there's been a 'recovery', I was forgetting.
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 14:54 #3

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Well call centres were operating prisons so it's only fair :hahano:
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 14:57 #4

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So if we should make cold calling illegal, does that mean that we get more cold calling from the folks we imprison for doing it?
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 15:58 #5

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
We are so fucked as a society, we really are totally fucked. I thank God that I found something I enjoy doing that will last indefinitely, that I can go anywhere in the world and still do it, and earn enough to live reasonably. God help kids growing up this society now; if they don't inherit housing their best case scenario is that they'll work until they die.

This isn't even illegal, in fact it's being openly encouraged in the middle of a massive depression! No, sorry, there's been a 'recovery', I was forgetting.

Out of pure interest I was messing with the UK tax calculator and working family tax credit calculator and discovered that if you earn 40k then your net salary is 2501.48 if you're married.

So:

40k gross = 2501.48 per month net
WFTC = 1472.89 per annum = 339.90 per month (/52 then *12)

So 40k salary for married single earner is 2840 per month.

Heres a laugh, 48k salary = 2900 per month net for the same guy. WFTC = ZERO.

So 8k extra salary = 40 quid a month more, LMFAO!!!

Just what is the point in these UK wages? Looking at this the gov says basically you need 48k with a wife and kids, I wonder how much tax thats costing everyone to keep going and how much of a slice of 'welfare' the gov is subbing corporations to keep wages artificially low?

You lot even have to register for self assessment if you're over 50k WTF!!??! WTF is that? PAYE employees have to register for self assessment wtf???

Christ that country is messed up.
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 16:10 #6

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Do they get paid?
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andyh wrote:
wake_up_bomb wrote:
We are so fucked as a society, we really are totally fucked. I thank God that I found something I enjoy doing that will last indefinitely, that I can go anywhere in the world and still do it, and earn enough to live reasonably. God help kids growing up this society now; if they don't inherit housing their best case scenario is that they'll work until they die.

This isn't even illegal, in fact it's being openly encouraged in the middle of a massive depression! No, sorry, there's been a 'recovery', I was forgetting.

Out of pure interest I was messing with the UK tax calculator and working family tax credit calculator and discovered that if you earn 40k then your net salary is 2501.48 if you're married.

So:

40k gross = 2501.48 per month net
WFTC = 1472.89 per annum = 339.90 per month (/52 then *12)

So 40k salary for married single earner is 2840 per month.

Heres a laugh, 48k salary = 2900 per month net for the same guy. WFTC = ZERO.

So 8k extra salary = 40 quid a month more, LMFAO!!!

Just what is the point in these UK wages? Looking at this the gov says basically you need 48k with a wife and kids, I wonder how much tax thats costing everyone to keep going and how much of a slice of 'welfare' the gov is subbing corporations to keep wages artificially low?

You lot even have to register for self assessment if you're over 50k WTF!!??! WTF is that? PAYE employees have to register for self assessment wtf???

Christ that country is messed up.

I take that back, its even worse lol, I should've just divided by 12 instead.
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 17:18 #8

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Space Bandit wrote:
Do they get paid?
Yes there are:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23777143
Convicted criminals in the West Midlands are being paid to work in call centres inside their prisons.
I found a link with the official rates of pay for prison workers, and it makes interesting reading. I know in the States corporations pay prisoners as little as 70 cents a day, it's not far off that sort of figure:

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You can download the document here. It does say "minimum", though, so maybe the companies involved will voluntarily choose to pay them really well!
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 17:26 #9

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Next time you tell a cold caller to piss off, remember he is inside, getting out soon and has your name and telephone number.

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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 19:19 #10

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That's interesting WUB ta.... different laws for outlaws eh?!
What happens if they refuse to work? I'd be telling them to kiss my big fat hairy swingers!
Hopefully I'll never end up in prison, or another call centre.
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Prisons operating call centres 21 Aug 2013 22:06 #11

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Space Bandit wrote:
That's interesting WUB ta.... different laws for outlaws eh?!
What happens if they refuse to work? I'd be telling them to kiss my big fat hairy swingers!
Hopefully I'll never end up in prison, or another call centre.
My entire knowledge of prisons is gleaned from the Shawshank Redemption. I assume that this considered 'bad behaviour' and any chances of being released early for 'good behaviour' recede greatly. I suppose they can't literally make prisoners do things, but they can use coercion.
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Prisons operating call centres 22 Aug 2013 09:44 #12

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Its just a small prison inside the bigger one :D
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inmates are stealing our jobs
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batou wrote:
inmates are stealing our jobs

lmfao!!!

immigrant inmates lolol
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andyh wrote:
batou wrote:
inmates are stealing our jobs

lmfao!!!

immigrant inmates lolol

Si me puede disparar los conejos, a continuación, puedo disparar fascistas
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The president of muhrika!!
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mikey mikey wrote:
Next time you tell a cold caller to piss off, remember he is inside, getting out soon and has your name and telephone number.

Sleep tight.
like a prisoner gives a shit about making his sales quota for 2 dollars lol
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batou wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
Next time you tell a cold caller to piss off, remember he is inside, getting out soon and has your name and telephone number.

Sleep tight.
like a prisoner gives a shit about making his sales quota for 2 dollars lol

If they're immigrants though they do!!!!


LOOOOLLLL!!!!

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batou wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
Next time you tell a cold caller to piss off, remember he is inside, getting out soon and has your name and telephone number.

Sleep tight.
like a prisoner gives a shit about making his sales quota for 2 dollars lol

Well if it's his cigarette money he might. Or he might just be the sensitive type and get hell bent on "payback" for "dissing" him.

Just sayin'
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