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US Gov on shutdown 01 Oct 2013 18:50 #21

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Nice headline. :cool:

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US Gov on shutdown 01 Oct 2013 19:57 #22

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US Gov on shutdown 01 Oct 2013 21:49 #23

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US Gov on shutdown 01 Oct 2013 22:05 #24

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They just up the debt ceiling again at the last minute and people go back to sleep again.
Not a problem basically.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
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US Gov on shutdown 01 Oct 2013 22:17 #25

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Except when the reality of what ACA is kicks in: and it is not universal health care.
Okay, now here's a regular guy making peanuts--just enough to get by on. This person has no disposable income.
And get this--he's just got a whopping $192 more a month to pay, thanks to Obamacare.

What's his after-tax take home--maybe $21,000. That's 1750 a month. Now take out rent or a mortgage--average $800. Now take out $150 for utilities. Now take out $200 for a car payment. Let's just assume against all liklehood that Pat has no student loans or credit card bills.

Pat has $600 to live on for the month. That's gas, food, car insurance, and miscellaneous. Now Obamacare comes along and clips him for $192 more. And what does he get in return? A great big fat deductible. Unless he needs an organ transplant Pat's never going to recoup a twentieth of the money he has to pay Obamacare. He won't even have bought peace of mind because the plan hardly covers anything.

THAT'S what this ACA is about. Just shearing that last little bit of fleece off the captive herd of threadbare Americans. Sure you can find the stray bit of gold in with all the dross and make that the dominant narrative, but you should know that those feel-good stories are the tiny tip of a huge iceberg that mostly consists of screwing Americans over.

It should be clear to a blind deaf guy with ADD that the Dems offer as little as the Repugs

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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 09:32 #26

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Only in America......
Ku Klux Klan Rally Among Government Shut Down Casualties
While over 800,000 furloughed government workers took the bulk of today's "shutdown" hit (even if that means record high traffic and ad revenues for the world's porn websites) in the form of compensation (that is merely delayed) one of the parties impacted by the first government shutdown in 17 years was none other than the Ku Klux Klan. Reuters reports that a KKK rally was one of the first casualties of the U.S. government shutdown on Tuesday when National Parks officials told the white supremacist group the event would have to be canceled. The KKK had been granted a permit for what it dubbed a First Amendment demonstration on Saturday at Gettysburg National Military Park, but park officials said it could not take place because all National Parks have been closed. "Because of the federal government shutdown, Gettysburg National Military Park has rescinded all permits for special events, including the October 5 First Amendment demonstration," the park said in a statement.



The surreality continues:

Park officials had previously defended the decision to allow the KKK event, saying the group was entitled to the free speech protections afforded by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

"As custodians of land owned by the American people, the National Park Service has a responsibility to make the land available for exercising those rights," a statement from the parks said.
One truly can't make this up.

But as long as the KKK sold the VIX and were long the S&P today in the last minutes of trading, we are confident they will get over this minor snub of their "first amendment" rights. Because there is nothing quite like feeling the warm glow of a little Fed-created "wealth effect" when unable to express one's encompassing love for all human brethren of all colors and ethnicities.

www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-01/ku-klu...government-shut-down

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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 09:42 #27

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andyh wrote:
They just up the debt ceiling again at the last minute and people go back to sleep again.
Not a problem basically.

I don't pretend to understand the economic jargon, but this bit stood out and I understood....
Sure enough, today is the first day of the next quarter (window dressing is over), and the bond market, if not so much the stock market, has finally awakened that the government shutdown is merely an indication of just how contenuous the debt ceiling negotiation very likely ill be, and that it is increasingly likely that the X-Date of October 18 may come and go without a deal, which just may result in a technical default on the nearest maturity Bills.

More about it here....

www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-01/someone-getting-very-nervous

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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 09:50 #28

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They'll just raise the debt ceiling, nothing else they can do :)
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 09:54 #29

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I thought that's what Obama wanted and Congress voted against, resulting in the shutdown? :conf:
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 10:01 #30

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this shutdown though tuff for many, is nothing. a bit of far right posturing re obamacare.
the looming debt ceiling is the real deal and as andy says, they will wind their necks and kick the can. i dont believe the bankers are quite ready for the implosion.....yet
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 10:47 #31

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I haven't followed the story in full but what amazes me is that people on conspiracy sites constantly bang on about how the government is bad and should be abolished and shut down.

Then it shuts down and everyone on conspiracy sites go into panic mode and worry how it will affect them.

Weird eh!
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 11:01 #32

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oh i am all for it dawn. bring it on :)
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 11:21 #33

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andyh wrote:
They'll just raise the debt ceiling, nothing else they can do :)



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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 11:32 #34

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knobmeup wrote:
this shutdown though tuff for many, is nothing. a bit of far right posturing re obamacare.
the looming debt ceiling is the real deal and as andy says, they will wind their necks and kick the can. i dont believe the bankers are quite ready for the implosion.....yet
The fact that it's being presented by the news as an argument over Obamacare really says everything about the broadcast media in particular that you need to know. Not that I've bothered watching it, but I've picked up the tone of reportage from bits on the radio.
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 12:01 #35

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yes, obamacare is being pushed as the crux of it by the msm.
whereas i see some short term penny pinching, a fair amount of social conditioning and summat of a dress rehearsal.
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 12:02 #36

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So basically one side of american congress (when did they start calling it a government in the USA) throw their toys out the pram and take their ball back

And we are worried about these people or superoverlords controlling us :chuckle:
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 12:04 #37

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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 12:09 #38

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knobmeup wrote:
yes, obamacare is being pushed as the crux of it by the msm.
whereas i see some short term penny pinching, a fair amount of social conditioning and summat of a dress rehearsal.
It's incomprehensible to me that people in the media either can't understand what's going on, or are willing to sugarcoat it in order to keep their jobs / advance their career. It's going to affect them. In fact, it already affects them now.

I remember when this happened:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7660409.stm

Qgho

US debt clock runs out of digits

Yet the debt has almost doubled in under five years since then:

3gki


And still no-one in the media has anything relevant to say about it whatsoever. All they talk about is 'growth', as if that's going to make any long-term fucking difference.

It is unbelievable. One day, I will wake up and realise that the world I thought I was living in was just an extremely intricate dream, and that I actually live in a sane world where rational things happen.
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US Gov on shutdown 02 Oct 2013 13:02 #39

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There is no contradiction Dawn.

People are horrified that the government has shut down because of WHAT they have shut Dawn.

Postal services, welfare assistance, infrastructure, scientific research.

Politicos and Military still of full pay however.

People objected to abuse before they shut down and now they object to neglect.

Wingnuts are ecstatic of course
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And the debt has doubled yet nothing amazingly bad has happened

it's just numbers on paper
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