Sanctum Zone

Keyword
A+ A A-
Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
  • Page:
  • 1

TOPIC: NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 18 Oct 2013 11:07 #1

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
EU Parliament to vote on new rules aimed at ending US data mining
The EU is making its first major move to counter spying activities conducted by American intelligence services. A new regulation aimed at restricting shady data transfers from EU states to the US is about to be voted on by the European Parliament.
rt.com/news/e...rivacy-nsa-326/
US-based companies consistently argue that they are not required to abide by European legislation. Instead, they maintain that they are only subject to secret court orders of the US Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which facilitates the work of the NSA.
Ahhh more exceptionalism
Which to non-Americans sounds like a "fuck you1"
So the EU are doing something right for a change. I suspect that this will not be reported widely. Nor will the UKIP and the Euro-skeptics be bringing this one up fast.
Is this another disagreement between the US and EU?
like...
Genetically modified food is another significant area of disagreement
occasionally causes problems with EU-US relations, because it is illegal in the EU to allow the extradition of a citizen to a country where the death penalty is a legal punishment
,
Extraordinary rendition flights through Europe were investigated over a number of years by the European Parliament and it held a temporary committee on the matter. The EU has also opposed the use of the Guantanamo Bay prison camp and offered to host some former inmates when its closure was announced by the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama.
It's becoming clearer why the EU has had so much bad press. :coffee:


.......aaaaannnnnd the UK goes in the other direction. i.e. right up the US arse
Britain is to launch a parliamentary inquiry into the Guardian newspaper’s leaks by Edward Snowden as part of a broad counter-terrorism inquiry. The probe was announced hours after PM David Cameron called the leaks “dangerous” for national security.

Addressing the UK parliament Wednesday, Cameron accused the newspaper of damaging national security by publishing sensitive data provided by the former NSA contractor.
"The plain fact is that what has happened has damaged national security,” Cameron said.
The pressure facing the Guardian seems to give credence to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange’s fears for the fate of journalists who assisted the former NSA contractor in divulging top-secret information.
rt.com/news/c...n-uk-probe-308/
So now the government is coming down on the Guardian hard and intimidating whistelblowers and all those that are willing to risk publishing the leaks.
Aren't you proud of the UK and pleased we are moving away from the EU now?
thank you St Jude for favours granted
Last Edit: 18 Oct 2013 11:10 by mikey mikey.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: oioioi

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 18 Oct 2013 12:10 #2

  • wake_up_bomb
  • wake_up_bomb's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 5063
  • Thank you received: 4418
  • Karma: 56
The UK still contributes £10 billion per year to the EU budget. Makes perfect sense really; the Eurozone is irretrievably broke beyond any conceivable repair, and Britain is irrevocably broke beyond any conceivable repair.
The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. The true measure of a man is this: how quickly he can respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give - Philip K. Dick.
You must register to post here.

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 18 Oct 2013 12:49 #3

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
And just who targeted the EU economy?

Here is an article by Jean-Claude Paye, sociologist and author of La fin de l’Etat de droit (Global War on Liberty, Telos Press, 2007),
Far from being the effect of the ‘invisible hand of the market’, the crisis of the euro is the product of a strategy carefully designed by Christina Rohmer and the White House Council of Economic Advisers. It is a matter of saving the American economy by forcing the European capitals to take refuge behind the US, and ultimately placing the Euro Zone economies under US control via the IMF and the European Union.
The euro crisis has been triggered by the concentrated attack of the American ratings agencies Standard & Poor’s, Moody’s and Fitch against the debt of Greece, Spain and Portugal. The downgrading of these three countries - especially Greece - to the ’speculative investments’ category is the result of a concerted action. The downgrading follows a series of repeated and pressing decisions. These attacks have been endorsed by the US-state machinery, notably through the alarmist declarations of Obama’s economic adviser and former chairman of the American Federal Reserve, Paul Volcker, who spoke of a prospective disintegration of the euro zone.
This tactical action is coupled with a strategic operation, that of a drive to dismantle the EU to the advantage of an economic union spanning the two continents.
What is behind the intention of the European Council to incorporate the IMF in the euro zone rescue plan? If one looks at the formula applied by this international institution to the countries to which it has made loans, the modus operandi is immutable: the imposition of wage and salary reductions both directly and indirectly, the privatisation of public services and the abolition of social policies. The policies of the IMF have consistently led to the significant impoverishment of the population [8].

In case of depression or even economic stagnation, the ‘policy of consolidation of public expenditure’ is doomed to fail. The foreshadowed €750 billion of aid will be used to pay back the banks to the detriment of taxpayer’s purchasing power, and this payment to financial institutions will further enhance the recession. Thus, IMF control and creation of funds to help the banks are two complementary dimensions of the same policies. The point is to effect a significant redistribution of income in favour of financial institutions.

Let us remind ourselves, once again, just who the IMF are.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund#Criticisms

And this article concludes
IMF control of European economic policy represents a supplementary stage in the dissolution of EU member states’ capacity for initiative and a phase of transition for their integration into a transatlantic body.

www.voltairenet.org/article166367.html
thank you St Jude for favours granted
You must register to post here.

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 18 Oct 2013 16:37 #4

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
I'd like to be able to say its as simple as EU good, US bad but it aint.
The US itself has been bullying S&P into not talking about the US credit rating for example, IMHO S&P have simply stated the obvious but thats come about after money left Greece long before.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 18 Oct 2013 19:13 #5

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
andyh wrote:
I'd like to be able to say its as simple as EU good, US bad but it aint..

I certainly would not say it was so. But it seems clearer to me that much of the rhetoric of certain euroskeptics is aimed at taking the UK further towards the US system both politically and economically. Frying pan and fire.

It has already happened throughout the EU and the political folks in high places. This globocorp body has seated itself in the US and is now looking to cement the trans-Atlantic stranglehold.
.
thank you St Jude for favours granted
Last Edit: 18 Oct 2013 19:14 by mikey mikey.
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: jhado

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 18 Oct 2013 19:31 #6

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
Its true that the loudest group against EU integration are right wingers.

Ofc I'm just a government skeptic nevermind euroskeptic :D
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: mikey mikey

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 24 Oct 2013 12:41 #7

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
rt.com/news/eu-us-data-spying-640/


Quote

The European Parliament voted Wednesday for US access to the global financial database held by a Belgian company to be suspended because of concerns that the US is snooping on the database for financial gain rather than just to combat terrorism.


I wonder if the US will start talking about "all cards on the table" in order to "protect their interests"^_^
thank you St Jude for favours granted
You must register to post here.

NSA spying: EU opposes, UK supports 24 Oct 2013 13:06 #8

  • mikey mikey
  • mikey mikey's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 6518
  • Thank you received: 3378
  • Karma: 23
Meanwhile in Italy...
Italy’s spy watchdog COPASIR has recently learned details of large-scale monitoring of Italians by the US intelligence agency NSA, according to a report published by Corriere della Sera.

rt.com/news/nsa-italy-spying-revelations-561/

But these folks are silly and eat pasta and play mandolins.

I mean, what has Italy invented or created? [/bigoted ignorant fuckwit]
thank you St Jude for favours granted
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: andyh
  • Page:
  • 1
Moderators: psketti, oioioi, batou
Time to create page: 0.268 seconds

Latest Members Blogs

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Prev Next

What is going on when it comes to 9-11 I…

The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

Read more

9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

Read more

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

Read more

Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
donation thermometer
56%
Most Recent Donation:
$122 USD on 4th Jan 2021
Bitcoin Address: bc1q0kazqya0nurfxtunxv807vm0m8852nnrrk8mj8
 
Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.

TradeZone Latest

Visitors

Today199
Yesterday1118
Week199
Month4633
Total1103057

Your IP Address: 216.73.217.81 Your Browser and OS: Unknown - Unknown Monday, 10 August 2026 06:51

Who Is Online

Guests : 150 guests online Members : No members online
© 2012 – 2021 Sanctum Zone | All rights reserved. This website is a place for people to express and discuss their views on the news and world events. DISCLAIMER: Please Note: Views expressed and submitted by contributors are their own personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions and beliefs of the Sanctum Zone website and its founder(s) , administrators , moderators , and any other website maintenance technicians, personnel and volunteers. Articles and messages posted on this website and forum are solely the opinion of their authors.

Login or Register

LOG IN

Register

User Registration
or Cancel