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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 14:39 #21

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If you farm you are already stuck with corporate seed supply. There's no change there that I can see from here.
If you are an average home grower, you are already pretty much stuck with corporate seed supply...
If you produce your own seed for your plot, well I wouldn't be panicking yet.


All this said. This extension of the 'nanny state' mentality is transparently brought on by agrichem lobbying, with profit as the motive.
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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 16:31 #22

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Psst...

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Wanna sample some 'heirloom' seed?

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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 16:34 #23

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andyh wrote:
Theres already gardens growing stuff all over the place, I can't see how this can be enforced unless they want to drop napalm and agent orange all over the UK.

Holly Chemtrail


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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 16:44 #24

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Ab Origine wrote:
andyh wrote:
Theres already gardens growing stuff all over the place, I can't see how this can be enforced unless they want to drop napalm and agent orange all over the UK.

Holly Chemtrail


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Class Abs...pure class...preparing the ground so only THEIR seeds will grow which I have been pretty suspicious...nay...pretty well convinced with the little experiments I have been doing in my garden these last couple of years.
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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 16:45 #25

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I reckon they're dropping black fly, lol :)
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At the risk of jacking your thread, you're welcome. ;)
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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 18:47 #27

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Here's your agent orange Andy...read it and weep!

USDA Moves to Approve "Agent Orange" GMO Seeds
The US Department of Agriculture is leaning toward approving varieties of corn and soybean seeds that are genetically engineered to be resistant to several herbicides, including the controversial chemical known as 2,4-D.
Dow Chemical developed the genetically engineered seeds with the brand name Enlist to address the growing problem of "superweeds" that have become resistant to Monsanto's Roundup herbicide. Roundup is widely used on genetically engineered crops, which are also known as genetically modified organisms, or GMOs.
Dow claims that Enlist seeds will give farmers an important tool to fight weeds, but pesticide critics and independent researchers say that 2,4-D is linked to health problems. Fighting resistant weeds with tougher chemicals, critics say, is not a sustainable solution to the challenges of modern agriculture.
Just before the start of the weekend January 3, 2014, the USDA released a draft environmental impact statement on the genetically engineered corn and soy seeds, which have been under a strict review since 2011 because of pressure from organic farmers and activists who are concerned about widespread use of 2,4-D. The USDA found that the GMO seeds do not pose a "plant pest risk," and the agency is expected to approve the seeds for general use.
The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), which regulates pesticides, is also reviewing the proposal to inject crops resistant to 2,4-D into the agricultural system. GMO crops such as the Enlist seeds are genetically engineered to resist pesticides marketed by the companies that develop them, allowing farmers to spay entire fields with patented herbicides that kill only weeds and non-GMO plants. In the coming months, the EPA will announce its decision in coordination the USDA.
Food safety activists and environmental activists call the GMO seeds "Agent Orange crops" because 2,4-D was a component of the notorious herbicide used by American forces during the Vietnam War that caused serious illnesses among veterans and the Vietnamese population. Industry proponents point out that Agent Orange's other ingredient, a chemical known as 2,4,5-T, was contaminated with dioxin and made the herbicide dangerous to human health. Meanwhile, 2,4-D has continued to be used in the United States and across the world.
Pesticide critics, however, point to studies that have linked 2,4-D to health problems such as non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a type of cancer.
“Any increase in the use of 2,4-D with Enlist corn and soybeans will hit rural communities especially hard, as numerous medical studies have linked 2,4-D and related herbicides to increased rates of cancer and Parkinson’s disease as well as low sperm counts in farmers and to birth anomalies in their children,” said Andrew Kimbrell, director of the Center for Food Safety.
Denmark, Sweden, Norway and parts of Canada have banned 2,4-D in light of such research, but the EPA considers the chemical to be relatively safe. In 2012, the EPA denied a petition from environmental groups to cancel the chemical's legal registration.
2,4-D is the third-most-popular herbicide in the United States, and farmers already are using it to fight Roundup-resistant weeds. The USDA estimates that use of 2,4-D will increase by 75 percent in the next six years if the Enlist crops are not approved. If the Enlist corn and soy are approved, the USDA estimates that the amount of 2,4-D used by farmers will increase further by two to six times.
Researchers at Penn State estimate that the widespread planting of soybeans resistant to 2,4-D would increase the amount of 2,4-D sprayed on American fields to 100 million pounds per year, about four times the current level. The researchers criticized the plan to address resistant weeds with heavy 2,4-D applications as a "quick fix" that would have negative environmental impacts and, over time, increase the superweed epidemic by encouraging weeds to be resistant to multiple herbicides.
A coalition of 144 farming, fishery, environmental and public health groups have asked the USDA not to approve the Enlist seeds, citing health studies and concerns among farmers that 2,4-D would drift onto their property and kill conventional or organic crops, causing serious economic damage in rural communities.
Dow, however, claims to have developed a 2,4-D formulation that is less prone to drift. In its environmental review, the USDA said that a "stewardship agreement" requiring the use of the new formulation has put some farmers' fears to rest. The USDA also claims that, if the Enlist technology is not made available to fight herbicide-resistant weeds, farmers may return to more aggressive tillage practices that can cause soil erosion and other forms of environmental damage.
The USDA has proposed several alternatives to approving the 2,4-D-resistant soy and corn, but approving all the seed varieties is currently the agency's "preferred" option. The public has six weeks to comment on the proposal.

www.truth-out.org/news/item/21069-usda-m...ent-orange-gmo-seeds

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Re:EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 19:48 #28

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Well we know monsanto already have roundup resistant crop very early on but again that's not the eu and not about gardens mentioned in your op title there
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Re:EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 19:52 #29

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Andy...my OP wasn't just about gardens...it was about our forests and parks too!
Also, my above post is not about roundup...it's about the horrible chemical in agent orange being put into modified seeds...or have I read that wrong?
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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 20:13 #30

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"Dow, however, claims to have developed a 2,4-D formulation that is less prone to drift."
To me that says it's about resistance, Jane.
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Re:EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 12 Jan 2014 20:13 #31

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Agent orange contained dioxins, roundup does not, glyposphate iirc.

As for forests its less of an issue, a lot of the UK is foreign pine since WW2 iirc
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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 13 Jan 2014 02:26 #32

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These will fit in here...


action.sumofus.org/a/brazil-terminator-s...NzR&rd=1&sub=fwd&t=2


Terminator seeds could mean a few huge corporations totally control the global food supply.


Under pressure from big commercial farms, the Brazilian parliament is about to hold a vote that will allow companies like Monsanto, Bayer, and others to start selling so-called ‘suicide seeds’ to farmers. The genetically modified seeds can only be used once, forcing small farmers into buying seeds from Monsanto or others over and over again -- literally forever.

The use of these seeds is essentially prohibited under a UN treaty on biodiversity which over 193 countries, including Brazil, have signed. But if Brazil overturns its own ban then this will have huge consequences. Poor, small farmers could be locked into a cycle of endless debt and dependency -- and the rest of the world could be handing control of the global food supply to a handful of companies. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

The parliamentary proposal has already been approved by some key committees and is now hurtling its way to a full parliament vote, which could happen in just a few weeks time -- meaning we don’t have long to stop this proposal.


www.theguardian.com/global-development/2...d-technology-farmers

Unease among Brazil's farmers as Congress votes on GM terminator seeds


Brazil is set to break a global moratorium on genetically-modified "terminator" seeds, which are said to threaten the livelihoods of millions of small farmers around the world.

The sterile or "suicide" seeds are produced by means of genetic use restriction technology, which makes crops die off after one harvest without producing offspring. As a result, farmers have to buy new seeds for each planting, which reduces their self-sufficiency and makes them dependent on major seed and chemical companies.

Environmentalists fear that any such move by Brazil – one of the biggest agricultural producers on the planet – could produce a domino effect that would result in the worldwide adoption of the controversial technology.

Major seed and chemical companies, which together own more than 60% of the global seed market, all have patents on terminator seed technologies. However, in the 1990s they agreed not to employ the technique after a global outcry by small farmers, indigenous groups and civil society groups.

In 2000, 193 countries signed up to the UN Convention on Biological Diversity, which recommended a de facto moratorium on this technology.



www.takepart.com/article/2013/12/18/will...gmo-terminator-seeds
In a statement posted on its website, the technology watchdog group ETC warned that even limited use of GURT would pose a threat.

“Terminator technologies are highly imperfect and the sterility trait will inevitably bleed into neighboring fields and crops, meaning that farmers will unwittingly plant seeds that they will never be able to harvest,” the statement reads.



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EU To Ban Heirloom Seeds and Criminalize Unregistered Gardens 13 Jan 2014 02:34 #33

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Thank you for that Sketts. It's something I've noticed with the small experiments I have done in my garden, seedless plants! :O
Like I said in response to Abs post...those damned chemtrails are doing a lot more than just modifying the weather! Now whether that plays a part, or it was the particular brand I bought...I'll hjave to dig out some rough notes I made.
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