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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:31 #121

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I didn't say they were wiped out by Christianity - I said they were wiped out by Christians.

Ah.. the semantics... what's the point.

I can't be arsed arguing with you.

It was nice of you join 14 minutes after my first post anyway.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:32 #122

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Myself, I didn't come to this forum for an endless repetition of the DIF. It's boring constantly arguing with the 'Jews this, Jews that'. I'm sick of that stuff. If it pleases you to believe it's all about the Jews, then you go for it - it doesn't really matter. It just gives you a phantom enemy to waste your life obsessing about.

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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:34 #123

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If you want to play Jewish conspiracies, maybe you should start a thread about it. Myself, I didn't come to this forum for an endless repetition of the DIF. It's boring constantly arguing with the 'Jews this, Jews that'. I'm sick of that stuff. If it pleases you to believe it's all about the Jews, then you go for it - it doesn't really matter. It just gives you a phantom enemy to waste your life obsessing about.

Well David Icke doesn't think it's a phantom enemy.

We know how you feel about Jewish issues, it's nearly all you ever posted about on DIF, defending them that is.

We know you're an atheist though.

And not Jewish.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:36 #124

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David is right:
The Zionist Elephant In The Room
The David Icke Newsletter

The Elephant In The Room...


... BUT SEE IT AND YOU'RE 'RACIST'


Hello all ...

The political creed of Zionism has big ears and a long trunk and I think it's time that was pointed out. It also stampedes through our lives at every level and that needs to be said, too.

It has created a pincer-movement on the human mind by hijacking staggering amounts of political, corporate, banking and media power on one side and by using the fear of being called 'anti-Semitic' if you dare to state the bloody obvious.

They have been able to do this by equating in public perception that Zionism = Jewish people. It does not. Zionism is a political creed introduced by the House of Rothschild to advance the goals of the Illuminati families that are largely controlled by the Rothschilds.

When people think of Zionism they think of Jewish people. When they think of Israel they think of Jewish people. That's understandable given the propaganda, but it is seriously misleading and those instant connections need to be broken if we are going to understand what's going on here.

Zionism means Rothschild just as Israel means Rothschild. When we see the extraordinary number of Zionists in key positions around the world we are looking not at 'manipulating Jews', but manipulating Zionists representing the interests and demands of the Rothschilds.




Significant numbers of Jewish people are not Zionists and oppose that appalling creed while many Zionists are not Jewish. These include the Christian Zionists and Obama's vice-president, Joe Biden, who told Israeli television 'I'm a Zionist'. Here's the clip if you can stand it ... If, as Biden rightly says, you don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist, how can it be a racial rather than a political movement? It can't. It's just made to appear like that to manipulate public perception because opposing Zionism then becomes opposing Jewish people as a whole and the 'you're a racist' card can be played over and over.

Far from protecting and advancing the interests of the mass of Jewish people it has often been devastating for them and caused millions to be labelled unfairly by the actions of the Zionist elite. On the Jews Against Zionism website one feature highlights how Rothschild Zionism targeted Jews who had lived for generations in Palestine side-by-side with Arabs in peace and harmony:

'The religious Jews who by virtue of their faith, clearly contradicted Zionist nationalism, and who had lived peacefully with their Arab neighbors for generations, became unwillingly identified with the Zionist cause and their struggle with the Arabs.

They requested the United Nations that Jerusalem be designated as a defacto international city. They appealed to the diplomatic corps assigned to Jerusalem -- but to no avail. They were hence confronted with the choice of either becoming a part of the Zionist State, which diametrically opposed the interests of Jews as a religion, or abandoning the land of which their forefathers were the first Jewish settlers.

Let's get this straight. Zionism doesn't give a damn about Jewish people. To the Rothschilds and their Zionist gofers and thugs the Jewish people as a whole are merely cattle to be used and abused as necessary - just like the rest of the human population.

The networks of the House of Rothschild were behind Hitler and the rise of the Nazi Party in the Rothschild heartland of Germany where they had changed their name from Bauer in 18th century Frankfurt and launched the dynasty that was to control global finance.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:38 #125

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If you use a massive brush like "it's teh joos" then you've already weakened your argument beyond repair imo.
Greed respects no borders, colours or creeds it will grab from whoever it can get away with.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:43 #126

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feather wrote:
If you use a massive brush like "it's teh joos" then you've already weakened your argument beyond repair imo.
Lucky I didn't then.
Greed respects no borders, colours or creeds it will grab from whoever it can get away with.

I just wonder how the Board of the Federal Reserve can ever be in a position where it is 100% Jewish as it was about 5 years ago

(There were two empty chairs for a while, the remaining 7 were Jews).

I had a long argument about this on the Democratic Underground forum. I pointed out that each member has a direct reference to their religion in their Wiki page or a link to Jewish Americans in the references list lower in the page.

Unbelievably someone started changing the Wiki page links a few days after my postings.

If you don't want to see the Elephant in the room then that's your problem.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:47 #127

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well said feather - I would also point out that as most here as well as over yonder do find fault with israeli policies and actions as well as those of big business, banking and other corporations using the term rothschild zionist adequately describes the people and their affiliations and their goals - no need to use the blanket statement 'teh joos' if it is rothschild zionists one is talking about - as rothschild zionists are not exclusively jewish. Those on the dif and elsewhere too lazy to make the distinction do nothing to halt the accusations of anti semitism levelled at themselves and icke, which and please correct me if i am wrong - many of those accused of being jdif shills etc are trying to put an end to.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:50 #128

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Luckily no one has used the term "teh joos" but has on the other hand explicitly stated their point of view.

But to pretend Zionism is not about Jews is a bit bonkers IMO.

It's like saying the Vatican is not about Catholics.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 14:56 #129

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I don't think the vatican is about catholics - I think it is about the vatican and the powers at play within the echelons of the catholic faith - which has little or nothing to do with catholics around the world. There is that seperation between those with the power and resources and those they live off of.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 15:03 #130

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I don't think the vatican is about catholics - I think it is about the vatican and the powers at play within the echelons of the catholic faith - which has little or nothing to do with catholics around the world. There is that seperation between those with the power and resources and those they live off of.

Nah.. you just made that up.

You'll be using the terms Catholics generally again soon enough.

That's what everyone does.

Like "The Americans" for the shit that did in Iraq.

Do people mean all Americans?

Of course not.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 15:08 #131

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Yeah, Imperial Tobacco is all about the welfare of smokers too. :roll:
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I do try not to generalise and to name those I am speaking about as accurately as possible - I am fallible so no doubt I shall generalise without acknowledging it at some stage - but hopefully I am a little more considered about what I am saying and who I am saying it about nowadays. I would hate for people to misunderstand the points I am making. I also would hate to label an entire group of peoples because of the actions of a few elites. After all those with the resources wish to have those without fight amongst themselves for the scraps off the table rather then uniting to sit side by side equally and share equally that which is atop the table.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 15:10 #133

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feather wrote:
Yeah, Imperial Tobacco is all about the welfare of smokers too. :roll:

That makes no sense.

That's a manufacturing corporate entity and the suckers who are hooked on their products.

The two are not generally interchangeable.
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I do try not to generalise and to name those I am speaking about as accurately as possible - I am fallible so no doubt I shall generalise without acknowledging it at some stage - but hopefully I am a little more considered about what I am saying and who I am saying it about nowadays. I would hate for people to misunderstand the points I am making. I also would hate to label an entire group of peoples because of the actions of a few elites. After all those with the resources wish to have those without fight amongst themselves for the scraps off the table rather then uniting to sit side by side equally and share equally that which is atop the table.

Well gold star for you.

Meanwhile the rest of the human race will carry on using general terms.

Although I rarely (if ever) refer to "the Jews" unless I specifically mean all Jews.

They sure are thin eggshells.
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amaralsright wrote:
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Yeah, Imperial Tobacco is all about the welfare of smokers too. :roll:
That makes no sense.
That's a manufacturing corporate entity and the suckers who are hooked on their products.
The two are not generally interchangeable.
Really?
WTF is this then?
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It's all in the marketing, selling the illusion of dependency.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 15:22 #136

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amaralsright wrote:
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If you want to play Jewish conspiracies, maybe you should start a thread about it. Myself, I didn't come to this forum for an endless repetition of the DIF. It's boring constantly arguing with the 'Jews this, Jews that'. I'm sick of that stuff. If it pleases you to believe it's all about the Jews, then you go for it - it doesn't really matter. It just gives you a phantom enemy to waste your life obsessing about.

Well David Icke doesn't think it's a phantom enemy.

We know how you feel about Jewish issues, it's nearly all you ever posted about on DIF, defending them that is.

We know you're an atheist though.

And not Jewish.

1/ Icke has repeatedly said it's not about 'the Jews'
2/ What Icke says is up to Icke. I'm very critical of Icke and don't see him as any kind of benchmark. And anyway another thing Icke has said repeatedly is that people shouldn't take what he says at face value and should challenge it. Why do people have a tendency to say well Icke says this...? - So what.
3/ d. I love a good argument, me, but I think it really is sinking in that there are some areas that are intractable dead ends. Debate is a good thing - if you don't test out beliefs and put them up for challenge, you'll get nowhere. Backslapping clubs might be nice, but they won't make you think too hard. But on the other hand, you can get into these endless circles going round and round where the same things get said over and over. It's not stimulating. I agree with feather
Greed respects no bor­ders, col­ours or creeds it will grab from who­ever it can get away with.

And that's it. Say Jews did control everything. Well if you suddenly replaced them all with gentiles what would change? Would the world magically become a utopia of peace and plenty?

It's like how people used to go on about the 'white male power structure' - it's certainly true that white men have dominated global power for centuries. But did Barack Obama or Margaret Thatcher represent some kind of positive step forward? Did they fuck. If you put black African women in chage of all the banks, they'd still be the same banks and still do the same things as part of the same system. The whole Jew thing is just trying to get people to dislike Jewish people - no matter how much you dress it up, that's the punchline - Jews are bad people, they're not like us and they're to blame. If people want to think that, they're not going to change their mind through rational argument because they're operating from a position of irrationality in the first place. You just get wound up trying to convince people who are determined to blame anyone but the social group they see themselves a part of that going round disliking other people on ethnic grounds is a bad idea. In the final equation, it's going nowhere.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 15:25 #137

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You're still not making any sense.

If the Vatican does something bad, the term "Catholics" is often applied in the blame game.

If Imperial Tobacco does something bad I never saw the smokers get blamed.

If leading elitist Jews are involved in Zionism (which is about Jews lets face it), Globalism, Media (social media) control, political gerrymandering and the enslavement of whole nations through international banking then if someone says Jews in reference to them I don't see why that's a big deal.

Oh those eggshells.
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Re: Icke Forum has been assimilated 06 Jun 2012 15:27 #138

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amaralsright wrote:
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I do try not to generalise and to name those I am speaking about as accurately as possible - I am fallible so no doubt I shall generalise without acknowledging it at some stage - but hopefully I am a little more considered about what I am saying and who I am saying it about nowadays. I would hate for people to misunderstand the points I am making. I also would hate to label an entire group of peoples because of the actions of a few elites. After all those with the resources wish to have those without fight amongst themselves for the scraps off the table rather then uniting to sit side by side equally and share equally that which is atop the table.

Well gold star for you.

Meanwhile the rest of the human race will carry on using general terms.

Although I rarely (if ever) refer to "the Jews" unless I specifically mean all Jews.

They sure are thin eggshells.

Dont need no gold star am merely attempting to be the change and all that.

Oddly enough I have never felt like I was walking on eggshells in relation to others or particular subjects - apart from when I was over at the dif - I have said before any subject can be discussed without intentional offense made - unintentional offense is an entirely different matter as different peeps are touchy about different things - but it is easy enough for two adults to sort out unintentional offense.
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1/ Icke has repeatedly said it's not about 'the Jews'

I agree with him.

However Zionism is about Jews and is a Jewish problem.

You're having trouble with the subtlety of it all I see.

Subsets.

It's a maths thing.
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If your not happy about the way people do bussiness don't do bussiness with them simple, arping on about something that most are willfully blindly supporting it are as bad as them.

Get over it and stop publicising their prescense because your doing them a favour keeping it in the limelite.

Do your own thing move on ffs.

Wanna talk about self pelf like a joowe look at my shoes, handmade no middle man something of quality self.
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Luckily no one has used the term "teh joos" but has on the other hand explicitly stated their point of view.

But to pretend Zionism is not about Jews is a bit bonkers IMO.

It's like saying the Vatican is not about Catholics.
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