ronisron wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
Seriously Ron, you picked about the worst example possible there. Zundel is notorious for being involved in this charming tract I quote from here (at the time under a pseudonym)
We loved Hitler because he was a White Man. He practiced our White virtues of forthright honesty and his actions matched his words. If something was filth, he disposed of it as filth with sanitary thoroughness. He did not enshrine the excrescence of sick minds. He was not ashamed to burn shameful enemy propaganda which was aimed at the destruction of our souls.
He was not like our racial enemy and his democratic stooges who preached freedom of the press and practiced suppression.
We loved him because he replaced the wasteful idleness of our penal system with productive labor and punishment with redemption. Even habitual criminals fulfilled useful roles in our society, roles which even they could look upon with pride. Not only did he save us from them, he saved them for us.
https://whiteresi
ster.com/index.php/opinion/125-ernst-zue...ler-we-loved-and-why
I broke the link as it's a far right website, but you can go read the whole thing if you like.
No, it's not necessary... I never said he wasn't a crackpot. The point is, his main crime was saying the Holocaust didn't happen, and he was jailed and deported back to Germany even though he was a Canadian citizen and had no previous criminal record. He was teaching a course on the Holocaust at a local University. Canada allows all kinds.... there are a hell of a lot worse than that who don't get solitary and deportation. Charlie Veitch got locked up in the same jail at the G8 protests, and the guy was never the same after that. Maybe he was always planning a 180 degree turn, but the timing was suspicious to me, given how folks in my country operate. I wasn't into the Love Police thing either, just saying.
He wasn't teaching any Holocaust course - I don't know where you've got that from.
Sure you can argue he didn't deserve deportation. Personally I don't agree with anti-HD laws, but I don't care about Zundel. He's a Nazi who was prosecuted for distributing a denial tract written by a British National Front guy. Then it's all like 'Nazis for free speech'. He didn't get any more than what he actually wants. The Nazis never cared about free speech. He should applaud what happened to him.
Beyond that, it's just a FOS issue. It's simply about whether you make sure someone has a right to say stuff despite their subscribing to political system that wants to ban that right and despite his calling for a film to be banned because he didn't like the content - very hypocritical of him.