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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:29 #101

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I don't know who, but I swear I have heard/read that voice before.

I know what you mean, but I can't quite place it... :secret:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:29 #102

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noseymutegirl wrote:
I don't know who, but I swear I have heard/read that voice before.

Armstrong? As in strongarming someone?

They're our new "village idiot" I guess. It's usually me but I don't mind the time off!! :coffee:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:32 #103

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there is someone dumber than catheter
my limbless friend will die alone
a torso of flesh upon the throne

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batou wrote:
there is someone dumber than catheter

Surely then, he should be referred to as "son of Catheter", which would be his rightful title? :dunno:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:35 #105

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batou wrote:
there is someone dumber than catheter

How fortuitous for us then, eh? :hahano:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:45 #106

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i was being ironic :D
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:50 #107

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If there's one thing I adore, it's certainly comically entertaining hypocrisy. Mr Adl there is teeming with it. Shall we begin? :corn:
To kick start this off i'll begin with a lie which is currently being told about us.

"I've heard that you/the mods read members PMs!"

This isn't true. Contrary to some pretty ridiculous rumors out there, neither the admin nor the moderators, nor anyone else for that matter, read anybody's PMs period.


It's time we put that one to bed, because the only person or people who can read PM's are the people that the PM is sent to.

Really, if it's a lie then why have you just corroborated that you do and have in fact read PMs a few paragraphs down?
Having got wind of what was happening, I stepped in and did something about it. It was at that time, and that time only, that the PMs of a few of the suspect moderators were read to find conclusive proof of what I and some others suspected all along.

Did you not say previously that you never read PMs PERIOD? What of the statement about PMs only being readable between the two parties involved? It seems pretty clear from the quote above that you have and do read PMs. Further more, how would you have gotten wind of some alleged rebel uprising that was held off site? Logically anyone partaking in the conspiracy you're alleging would have screened recruits to avoid such a thing. You're certainly no superhero mastermind, Mr. Adl, as you can't even keep from implicating your own shady operating procedures. Based upon that alone, it's highly dubious you would even catch on to an alleged conspiracy; Certainly not one as elaborate as you claim. :sokay:

Psychic attacks, really Sean? Are you reading excerpts from the dark ages and Salem witch trials for inspiration? What's next, the devil made you ban several people for questioning the bigotry and xenophobia you were allowing to take place to generate site click revenue? No no wait it was zionists! Yes, that's right because they're so threatened by a forum with such tantalizing threads like 2012 Euro football. Just face it, no one was hospitalized for a psychic attack, and no one planned any sort of mutiny. How would a hospital even begin to go about treating an alleged psychic attack to begin with? What-ever you're smoking, you might want to put it down... You're the webmaster, what would a ragtag group of forum users turned mod have taken over? Eventually one loses track of their fabricated lies and slips up, hence why police officers keep suspects talking. The quoted sections above are proof of that. The fact of the matter is you can't take criticism, and certainly not the truth of your own shady behavior. What you should have done was fessed up, learned from your mistakes, and moved on. That's what men do. By continuously opening your mouth with this ridiculous nonsense, you've only succeeded in digging your proverbial grave :gn: with no help from the Sanctum Zone members, who you are poorly attempting to make your Goldstien. I think the users on your forum are intelligent enough to make up their own mind, and don't need to be told how to think.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 05:57 #108

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Mrindigo wrote:
If there's one thing I adore, it's certainly comically entertaining hypocrisy. Mr Adl there is teaming with it. Shall we begin? :corn:
To kick start this off i'll begin with a lie which is currently being told about us.

"I've heard that you/the mods read members PMs!"

This isn't true. Contrary to some pretty ridiculous rumors out there, neither the admin nor the moderators, nor anyone else for that matter, read anybody's PMs period.


It's time we put that one to bed, because the only person or people who can read PM's are the people that the PM is sent to.

Really, if it's a lie then why have you just corroborated that you do and have in fact read PMs a few paragraphs down?
Having got wind of what was happening, I stepped in and did something about it. It was at that time, and that time only, that the PMs of a few of the suspect moderators were read to find conclusive proof of what I and some others suspected all along.

Did you not say previously that you never read PMs PERIOD? What of the statement about PMs only being readable between the two parties involved? It seems pretty clear from the quote above that you have and do read PMs. Further more, how would you have gotten wind of some alleged rebel uprising that was held off site? Logically anyone partaking in the conspiracy you're alleging would have screened recruits to avoid such a thing. You're certainly no superhero mastermind, Mr. Adl, as you can't even keep from implicating your own shady operating procedures. Based upon that alone, it's highly dubious you would even catch on to an alleged conspiracy; Certainly not one as elaborate as you claim. :sokay:

Psychic attacks, really Sean? Are you reading excerpts from the dark ages and Salem witch trials for inspiration? What's next, the devil made you ban several people for questioning the bigotry and xenophobia you were allowing to take place to generate site click revenue? No no wait it was zionists! Yes, that's right because they're so threatened by a forum with such tantalizing threads like 2012 Euro football. Just face it, no one was hospitalized for a psychic attack, and no one planned any sort of mutiny. How would a hospital even begin to go about treating an alleged psychic attack to begin with? What-ever you're smoking, you might want to put it down... You're the webmaster, what would a ragtag group of forum users turned mod have taken over? Eventually one loses track of their fabricated lies and slips up, hence why police officers keep suspects talking. The quoted sections above are proof of that. The fact of the matter is you can't take criticism, and certainly not the truth of your own shady behavior. What you should have done was fessed up, learned from your mistakes, and moved on. That's what men do. By continuously opening your mouth with this ridiculous nonsense, you've only succeeded in digging your proverbial grave :gn: with no help from the Sanctum Zone members, who you are poorly attempting to make your Goldstien. I think the users on your forum are intelligent enough to make up their own mind, and don't need to be told how to think.

Bravo, Otrindu!! :cheer:

It's just a big huge case of too little, too late.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 06:05 #109

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phemohilia wrote:

Bravo, Otrindu!! :cheer:

It's just a big huge case of too little, too late.

Thank you good Sir! You're right. I don't understand what's so hard about admitting to making bad choices. That's life, we all make them.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 07:08 #110

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Where is the puking emoticon when you need it? Im so not amused with the rumor thread :mad:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 07:41 #111

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entran­ger­mer­cen­ary wrote:
andyh wrote:
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Is Hadaka_Jimmy here...please tell me he isn't.... :hide:

lol, the banhammer would arrive hard and swiftly for that one :p

Oh is this forum going down the only 1 voice and communal opinion then and no dissent tolerated !! :killinme:
:roll:

Well having been on the receiving end of his bigotry and racism (although he did argue calling me a paddy wasn't racist as the Irish are not a different race to the English) many times it would just be another bigot trolling forums IMHO....of course it would be fun to dismantle his archaic political views again....possibly that's why he began to call me names and throw his toys out of the pram... :rofl:

But of course lively debate is always welcome..... :killinme:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 11:16 #112

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I've just deleted a post somebody made with a banned URL.

While they may still be using our PM service to send links to other people I am not going to allow their link to be posted on the forums. They have leeched enough of our traffic as it is. It's about time they stood on their own two feet and attracted their own traffic in an honest and grown up fashion. Let them spend money on banner ads advertising it elsewhere. Do some legitimate SEO work. But don't come here and leech our membership base like that.

That's one of the primary reasons the URL is banned here.

Freudian slip? I wonder how people feel about being seen as mere traffic?
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 12:21 #113

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This morning I received this:
Hi Paul,

I just wanted to send you an email to apologise for the way I spoke to you and Psketti in the chat last night and the choice of words I used.

Feelings were running very high from my end towards the way our PM service was being used and some of the lies being said about me and the moderators in your private forum. And I had reached my limit in terms of patience thus completely losing my cool. What you saw in the chat was me at my worst in terms of expressing myself to you guys and for that I can only apologise.

If possible could you forward this email onto Psketti?

Thanks,
Sean

I have replied thus:
Sean,

We both know that your email is politically motivated. If the
chat log hadn't been posted at the DIF, you'd never have sent it. Your
email is just an attempt at damage limitation as far as I can see.

A few days ago you mentioned on the DIF that you were going to start a
thread about the things that have surfaced since the birth of the
Sanctum Zone. Last night you came to our chat, hurled profane abuse at
psketti and myself and then left. More or less instantly, the thread at
the DIF appeared. You had that thread ready to post when you came to
our chat, that's the only explanation for how it appeared so quick.
Ergo you visited us for a little gloaty rant prior to hitting the
'post' button at the DIF.

Then in that thread you stated that you had
written it as a response to visiting our site YESTERDAY. It
doesn't add up, as I said, you announced the arrival of your thread
days ago....

You can take this email as an "apology not accepted"
because it is a disingenuous apology. What you said in chat is your
true feelings, not what you have written in your latest email to me.

I will pass this email to psketti of course for her to make her own mind
up about it. Then I will be posting both your mail and my reply in the
public area of the Sanctum Zone so that others can see it.

Paul
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 12:25 #114

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Do some legitimate seo work? the cant even install a proper chat system, vbullitin is a very powerfull easy to setup bbs system, the way they have setup the dif is a joke, as for seo the natrual link farming that goes on in huge forum like that would be enough to get good rankings.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 12:43 #115

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Dub, while I understand the reason you don't want to accept seans apology and even think it's disingenuine, for the best you could take it as a genuine apology and let things go. When two children fall out and their parents make one of them apologise they are apologising because someone told them to. the parent knows full well that the other person isn't actually sorry in that moment because they are still angry and accusing but just the simple ACT of apologising means that given time, the two people who fell out will be friends again.
I don't mean to say you and Sean are children, I was just using that as an example. so you don't think the apology is real? just act as if it was and things will improve. Holding on to grievances is never a good idea.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 12:46 #116

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dubmeup wrote:

Freudian slip? I wonder how people feel about being seen as mere traffic?
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bel wrote:
Holding on to grievances is never a good idea.

We should have a priv section for approved new members to vent steam about DIF if they want.
I don't really wanna know about DIF anymore, I'm banned from there and I really couldn't care less about it.
This forums doing quite well with lots of other topics besides DIF all the time.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 12:51 #118

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Sean or any dif members/mods reading this!!

Pm's - lets accept for a second that sean was not reading pm's but instead was reacting to posts on other forums about pm's being sent asking for email addresses which in some cases led to people being forwarded this forums url - Lets assume that banning someone is a move taken seriously by the moderation team. with those assumptions in place a few questions

what about those banned before such a rule was in place?

what due diligence was performed to ensure that the people in question really were the people in question? - anyone can sign up to a forum using anothers username

Why the need to police where people are linked to? particularly when freedom of speech and choice are such important parts of davids message?

Why the need to paint this place as anti icke? we are not anti icke we have issues with the way that the DIF is run and the lack of consistency in applying the forum rules and guidelines by the mod team.

It has now been confirmed that the mods involved in PMG1 were not happy with the anti semitism etc on the dif - I can only assume that if they grouped together to discuss it - it was as a result of not feeling supported by other moderators on the issue and that they felt the way forward to deal with the anti semitism was to talk with eachother away from the forums - sound familiar? The fact that many (though not all - but suprise suprise we get on with eachother through actually talking stuff through) here also see the dif as somewhere that not only allows anti semitism but goes out of its way to support anti semitic posting - shows an endemic history from the start of people thinking the same thing - sean has talked of 'rogue' mods - were these mods really rogue? or were they perhaps just not in agreement with letting posters such as rodin free reign to mire the forum in anti semitism. We cannot all be adl/jdif and to attempt to paint those who see the anti semitism as zionist is disingenuous to say the least.

People very much care that icke is not stymied in spreading his message because of the link between his work and anti semitism - something which the actions of the admin there do not seem to share.

You talk of people taking 'your traffic' - posters are people not just statistics - they are people who are able to make up their own minds with evidence presented - on this forum people have presented their perspective with the evidence they have to back up their perspective - and allowed others to make up their own minds - how about sean you present your evidence that there were 'rogue' mods - I_AM how about you present your evidence that another forum has ip's posted in their forum.

Why is it that mods spend s much time looking in other forums for bits of 'gossip' about their forum when they have shit they should be doing in their own forums?

Open invitation sean - make all of us that were banned active for today - ban us all again at midnight - allow us to post evidence - point out the racist threads that you have been asking people to report - allow us to put screenshots of conversations up so that people can see both sides of this story - allow us to address the 'rumours' directly with you so they can be put to bed - have the information out there on your boards for everyone to see - rip the lid off this can of worms once and for all - and then we can get on with building our community and you can get on with yours.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 24 Jun 2012 12:59 #119

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I was banned for calling merlincove a cunt and posting a link to here so what sean is saying is damage limitation and bololoxs, as per what most of the mods say when challenged about their behaviour.
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Hi Paul,

Thats up to you to do if you wish.

Other moderators on the forum will verify that I am indeed sorry for the manner in which I talked to you guys in the chat room. Almost straight after posting in your chat room I told the moderators I regretted doing so. One of them, weeman, even went in there to see what I had posted. I was too annoyed at myself to do so.

The thread posted in General on our forum has been under discussion for the last few days. My visit to your chat room is nothing to do with the thread, its to do with built up frustration, and a post from a new member saying they had received a PM on our forum - its the straw that broke the camels back.

I decided after losing my temper that last night was as good a time as any to post the thread which we had been discussing previously, hence it going up shortly after me visiting the chat room.

Its a shame you don't take the apology to be genuine. But at least i've offered you one.

Cheers,
Sean
Sean,

I would like to think that your apology is real, it's just that
with all of our previous history I just don't think it is and after
last night.....

That said, I'm sure that everyone concerned would like
to see an end to the "forum wars" which you declared. So, I'd really
like us to start talking about how that can come about. Everyone has
seen that for whatever reasons, certain changes have been implemented
at the DIF. The kind of changes that many SZers put to you long ago.
You have to understand that all along I (can't speak for others) just
wanted to see the DIF reflect the words of Mr Icke. A man who's
thoughts I have a lot of time for. Now it seems the DIF is starting to
listen to it's contributors (and ex ones) in that regard. This I'm sure
we agree, is a good thing.

So, how can we all work this through so
that we can actually go back to "being the change you want to see"?
It
serves no useful purpose for the two sites to be running alongside and
at "war". That only helps the controllers. The two sites are going to
exist, so we'd be advised to work together. We need to address this
don't you think?

I look forward to a constructive response.

Regards,
Paul
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