ronisron wrote:
Hey Ron who told you that?

The meme which is the dif will tell you that but I wonder why the fact that Judaism, Christianity and Islam came from the root's of Abraham, the start of today's monotheistic religions and why that isn't taken into consideration.

Abraham, it is thought to have exited around 3500 BC although there is no historical evidence to suggest he even existed, David Icke is correct when he say's the start of civilization started with the Sumerians 6000 BC who had their own religion and this religion is the bases for all other Abrahamatic religions. Abraham is thought to have been a Sumerian. The Egyptian religion is another older religion which predates Judaism, going back even further there is the Zoroastrianism religion which is thought to have influenced the Sumerians or at least co existed with the Sumerian Religion.

We in our ego driven minds think that our western civilization is the be all and end all of the civilizations on earth. The Chinese civilization has been here a lot longer than our current civilization. The South American civilization is a lot old than we have been taught.

I get cross when I see the meme's from dif become truth's in peoples minds, good people who are fooled by those who need to blame a specific person or group for all the worlds ill's when imo it's the system, a system created by psychopath's who have no affiliations other than themselves or the system.

Space Bandit wrote:
Agreed SB, there is a niche group over there that gather together an target member's who dont follow the party line that group is gathering momentum every month I see new member's who have joined up recently this year who have joined in this 'special group'. which I call neo nazi's.

It's ironic when you think about it, here is this group pushing the 'party line' who accuse other's of being in a 'party line'.

Boots wrote:
Yep... they accuse people of swallowing propaganda while just repeating nazi dogma, which by the way they speak would just end up in another holocaust! Braindead.
They're 'special' alright.

Hahahaha , special alright these types would think they were the special ones at the insane asylum.

They need another leader like Hitler or someone who can mold themselves on Hitler ideology get rid of all undesirables and leave a world inhabited by special people.

Boots wrote:
The fact that anybody needs to look up to some political leadership for guidance is bad enough, but to devote yourself to a fucking weirdo like Hitler... :/

Boots wrote:
Funny you should say that boots... earlier in a conversation with a good friend I too used the word 'special' in the same way and deducted that for me special = cunt in this context

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ronisron wrote:
Personally I agree with this, a centralisation of power. Such global control by few was not possible before todays levels of technology.

I agree with Mr Icke when he talks about the centralisation of power, not because he says it per se, but because i just take a look around here in oz...a lot of things have changed rapidly in the last 10-15 years, i can see it for myself. I can check major institutional shareholders of ASX , LSE and NYSE listed corporations and i see the same major institutional holders everywhere, from goldman sachs to raytheon to monsanto to woolworths australia...then things come out like cheney has 80 mill of vanguard (because of a court case)...so which individuals has the rest of vanguard that we never hear about...yeah i think the 'cabal' could possibly own a lot that we dont know about thru these umbrellas.



I dont agree with some who say its some kind of chaos at the top with no one at the wheel, and im entitled to my opinion. I just agree to disagree with some posters here and on DIF who say that, doesnt mean we cant still be civil and all. I do think there is a small (versus global population) group of powerful people and old money that go back far, that call many of the shots, are behind the UN and other globalist outfits, and are really appreciating the unprecedented levels of technology they now have at their disposal.

In fact i would say i started looking into these things (some call it awakening) when i started to realise all by myself that the politicians seemed to have agendas that didnt make sense to me in regards to what politicians were supposed to represent (the people and the nation, as we were 'taught' ) , i could see they were serving the corporations and i went from there.

I also know you have seen my queen lizzy wears horus pics on DIF ron, in that thread of yours, a modern day pharaoh perhaps. Ofc there are more of them, but the royal families and their bankers/extended family are in the thick of it imo. And whatever 'religion' they profess to be, well imo, to keep it simple, well i think they are full of shit hey Many muslim nations seemingly run variants of horus as their national emblems, not unlike 'christian' USA. Funny that. The plebs/masses sure as heck dont pick out or decide on those emblems.

What gets me on DIF is some who talk a lot about muslims and jews, while they say christianity is all good and cool and stuff....when some batshit crazy stuff has been done under the guise of christianity also...all 3 are abrahamic/hammurabi brands, not unlike chev ford and mopar, in both cases i personally believe the profits go to the same people even if those on lower levels dont know it and think the others are 'the competition' ...if they did think anything but that, they wouldnt do what the cabal want them to do day in day out would they now.

ronisron wrote:
Let me make this crystal clear.

The bannings at that time were fuck all to do with those mods being pro-Zionist. That's Sean trying to twist facts so that black becomes white, in an effort to put his own devious actions in a better light. It's pure and utter lies.

That all arose from my making a mild criticism of Alison (I Am), and her reacting by telling me to jam it up my arse, and changing her own status to Senior Member. This was done in a fit of pique, and in the meantime, Sean started PMing me suggesting I should leave, yet he didn't admit it was anything to do with Alison's wanting to return without losing face - which she needed me gone to accomplish.

To fill in some background there was a lot of discord within the mod / admin team, both because of the bullying, hypocritical, self-contradictory manner that some of the seniors (i.e. Alison, Krakhead & Sean) actually moderated and instructed others to moderate, and also the degree to which what we perceived to be racism, was defended by them. There were many debates and arguments about it. Basically, Sean & the others (led by Sean) labelled our attitude to this RACISM as unwarranted censorship, and they made excuses as to why what some members posted wasn't really racism at all - though in our opinion, it was. We repeatedly told Sean / Krakhead that the racism would deter decent people from joining / staying, but were just accused of not understanding, and trying to 'nanny'.

I wanted to leave, as did others, but we kept talking each other into hanging around a bit longer, to attempt to steer things, as far as we were able, in a more positive direction.

I had several differences of opinion with Alison in particular, not specifically over racism, but just over her being (imo) an unreasonable, egotistical bitch. She would stomp round the mod thread barking instructions and generally talking to people like shit, but give her a bit back, no matter how gentle, she'd behave like Shirley Temple having a flaming tantrum.

I've already given one eg on this board of the multitude of instances where I felt these seniors behaved unfairly and irrationally (the 'Jesus Was a MOTHERFUCKER' and 'My Gym Shoes Smell Like Cheese' fiasco).

Sean couldn't admit outright that he wanted me out so that Alison could come back, because he only had the backing of Krakhead. The other admins weren't happy about it - in fact one of them challenged Sean outright as to whether his suggestion that I should leave was because of the situation with Alison, and he denied it. That's right if you're reading shit-heads - more than one admin showed me screen-prints of the Admin thread which even mod's aren't privy to - so I know exactly what went on there. The only people wanting me out were the unholy trinity of Alison (who, as one admin pointed out to Sean, shouldn't have any say in the matter as she was now only a forum member) Krakhead & Sean.

After some PM's back & forth between myself & Sean, whereby he claimed I should leave because I wasn't good a moderating, and me asking him to give examples, and him stalwartly ignoring these requests, he just changed my status to member.

It had been during this time that we were communicating that Sean had been reading my PM's, which is why I'm convinced he was just looking for some excuse to sack me. However, I wasn't aware of the PM reading until later.

One of the mods, STRT, was the one who caught Sean at it. We all (including members if I'm not mistaken) had the facility to view what everyone else was doing. i.e. I could click on, say Gremlin's name for example, and see that he was reading or composing a PM, or reading or responding to a particular thread - though the content of the PM / post being composed etc could NOT be seen at all.

STRT writes computer programmes for a living, so when he looked what Sean was doing, he recognised that he was actually reading MY PM's. He recognised part of the URL no's depicted they were specifically mine. Had I spotted him doing it, I wouldn't even have recognised what those numbers meant so I wouldn't have realised what he was up to.

Before STRT told me what he'd witnessed, he asked me to look up a series of 4 or 5 numbers & told me which part of the screen to hover my mouse over so that the relevant number would become visible. It was only when I identified each one of these numbers to be linked to a specific one of my PM's that he was completely certain of what he'd seen Sean doing.

STRT then challenged Sean on the mod thread. Though I could no longer get into that thread, being a member, many people regularly showed me screen-shots to keep me abreast of what was transpiring.

Sean emphatically denied having read my PM's, feigning hurt indignation that anyone would even think to suggest such a preposterous thing, and claiming he didn't even have the software to facilitate it.

So STRT then posted in the mod-thread the irrefutable evidence of Sean reading my PM's in the form of screen-shots of him doing it!

That's when Sean changed his stance, and pretended he'd done it because he had reason to believe I'd been breaking forum rules, and that as webmaster, he can do whatever the hell he wants, and if they didn't like it they could sling their hooks. He amended the forum rules then to include his right to read people's PMs.

I emailed Icke's office to complain about what had happened, as did STRT, Limelady, DarkEternal and Pinkfreud. I can't remember whether other mods did aswell. None of us received any reply.

There are sections of the mod thread from that time that were copy & pasted onto the Infinite Love Forum and I think Sodlike Productions, which show that every single mod resigning or being sacked was the direct result of that sneaky little twat reading PM's. Nothing else - no secret Prozionist meetings or black sodding magical attacks. That's all Sean talking complete and utter bollocks, because he's a lying bastard. In fact, it's bollocks that he's only made up recently. He didn't even offer those excuses at the time - just that he had a right to do it because he'd had intelligence from a trustworthy source, advising him that I was breaking forum rules. He's yet to inform me what rules he's referring to.

At the time, he claimed it was only my PM's he'd read & nobody else's. He's recently changed that to it being a number of mods he was spying on. Though when it occurred and he claimed in the mod-thread that he'd only ever read mine, Logic Bomb (an admin at the time) pointed out to him that one of those was a conversation between me & him, so he'd automatically spied on him too - and the same would apply to all my PM's since they were each between myself & someone else.

Amongst my PM's that he read, there was one which I thought could possibly have been used as his excuse, though he never, ever mentioned it to me, or offered any justification for sacking me.

This was one where I was sick to the back teeth of watching Alison stalk Tusme & Merlincove, who were new, around the mod forum, bollocking them for everything they did & snapping their heads off for everything they said. I was equally sick of them not sticking up for themselves and apologising profusely for everything and posting embarrassed face emoticons instead of sticking up for themselves. I PM'd them both saying that if they wanted to run things they weren't sure about past myself or Limelady, they were welcome to do that, rather than exposing themselves to the wrath of the sabre-tongued harridan. I think I also urged themselves to stick up for themselves a bit.

At a later point in time, when Krakhead was posting some shit on a different forum, I rung him up and challenged him. He was extremely sheepish - not the loud-mouthed know-it-all he appears on-line - he sounded like he was crapping himself! I had his address because I'd posted him a book to read some time previously, so I used this to get his number from directory enquiries. He claimed he'd almost resigned himself on learning of Sean's reading PM's, but had decided to stay because he enjoyed it. He also expressed shock that Sean had never given me any reason for sacking me beyond that I wasn't a good mod - he said that it was the PM I'd sent to Tusme & Merlincove, which they'd reported. I wouldn't put it past them. I was good friends with Merlincove initially, and did a lot to help him when he started modding, but he proved himself throughout this carry-on to be a completely two-faced, lying arse.

However, that wouldn't explain why Sean was in my PM's anyway - if it was down to them reporting that, how come they didn't just show him the PM I'd sent them? Why did he feel the need to go through all my messages. STRT said that although he'd only taken that screen shot which identified 4 or 5 PM's, he'd witnessed him reading lots more.

Needless to say, as soon as I was out, Alison resumed her place at the helm.

The people who left - Dark Eternal, Lime Lady, Shodan, Logic Bomb, Pink Freud (apologies to any I've unwittingly ommitted) either left of their own accord because they were disgusted at what had gone on, or were got rid of for voicing dissent on the mod-thread.

When things were getting too hot for Sean to handle, he blocked a lot of us from using our accounts, yet our status were left showing that we were 'Active' members.

Being still unable to get any answer on the telephone, a few of us emailed Icke's office re this, and quelle surpirse - got no answer.

That's when I logged in in my husband's rarely used account, under the name 'Drawer', and posted on 30 or 40 threads that Sean had been caught reading PM's and rendered us inactive despite our status's showing otherwise.

That then led to a lot more bollocks being bandied about, and actively encouraged by Alison etc, because he's a Mason - so then it was all "shock, horror, OMG - Gilly's a Mason - that must be something to do with her doing the evil things that Sean's sacked her for". For fuck's sake!

Gilly wrote:
Yes, and pinkfreud and limelady are mossad agents of course.

'Zionist mods infiltrate'...'and we got them' It did make for a cool story though for sean to put out there in his rumors thread.

As for the black magic stuff...well its sodlikes billy ruben they got to watch out for there.

Thanks gilly - that explanation has a much higher ring of truth to it then the 'pro zionist mods meeting up to send psychic attacks' bollocks the lying little twat tried to convince people of. Libel is the word that springs to mind tbh.

I am left wondering a couple of things though....

In saying that the mods who were removed were 'pro zionist' he is appealing to the paranoia and views of exactly the sorts of posters who exhibit the most anti semitic hate speech - I suspect that this line of justification was okayed by icke and his office - which happily coincides with the notion that icke is being actively persecuted by zionists who are 'scared' by his getting his message 'out there' - which in turn leads to the more susceptible to propaganda being suckered further in to the hateful positions taken by people on ickes who say such things as 'they are all parasites' 'if jews cannot control it they will seek to destroy it and everything decent about it' 'another thing jews have problems with (because their religion turns them into sociopaths)' and other such hateful statements.

Everything I have witnessed and read and the information I have been told is screaming to me that sean likes playing mind games with people he barely conceals his contempt for and whom he views as passive sponges that will soak up any shit he wants to tell them.

The mantra has always been if you see a post report it - what the fucks the point when it isnt removed and the poster responsible is not held accountable.

Ickes forum is not about truth - it is about allowing certain people free reign to post the 'truth' that means people will buy what icke and the other 'researchers' he is pally withs products. Which makes me really angry - my own fault really for believing that there was integrity to be found there.

Exactly!

And I believe a spin used was also that Icke was busy finalising a book for publishing at the time, and we were attempting to undermine the success of that.

I appreciate it's not an anti-Icke site, but it's my belief that his main motivator is £$£$£$ - that stull he claims is 'illusory'.

I wonder if they will spin the sanctum zone as being an attempt to subvert icke wembley show ? fuck I may have given the bastards ideas!!!

thoreau wrote:

Kumatora wrote:
lmfao what an idiot.

I just read the last two pages of this thread.. And it was the most interesting read in some time over here. Thanks Gilly, you've earned some karma.

pro-zionist mods

Good to see you here Gilly

The telling thing is , they 'Sean' are still blaming the jews even in a round about way

dawnbreak wrote:
exactly - goes to show where they are coming from really and explains a lot.

Thought i would stir their stinking race thread.

are the jews neanderthals? yet another stonking own goal

Is it possible to believe that jews are all descended from neanderthals but are not a race?

This is the sort of shit that I am talking about when it comes to people clutching at straws in order to stereotype entire peoples as inferior/different or somehow inhuman.

Not those with genuine criticisms about israel, judaism the religion or acts of individuals who are jewish where there is a proven link that their religious affiliation has an impact on their actions/behaviour.