ronisron wrote:
After that first "PMGate" went down,
: said that those banned mods were coming from a Zionist/anti Semitic angle and were attempting to turn the forum into a pro-Zionist messageboard. I think @thoreau probably has that info saved, if I'm not mistaken.
I think he may have banned the wrong mods....
Let me make this crystal clear.
The bannings at that time were
fuck all to do with those mods being pro-Zionist. That's Sean trying to twist facts so that black becomes white, in an effort to put his own devious actions in a better light. It's pure and utter lies.
That all arose from my making a mild criticism of Alison (I Am), and her reacting by telling me to jam it up my arse, and changing her own status to Senior Member. This was done in a fit of pique, and in the meantime, Sean started PMing me suggesting I should leave, yet he didn't admit it was anything to do with Alison's wanting to return without losing face - which she needed me gone to accomplish.
To fill in some background there was a lot of discord within the mod / admin team, both because of the bullying, hypocritical, self-contradictory manner that some of the seniors (i.e. Alison, Krakhead & Sean) actually moderated and instructed others to moderate, and also the degree to which what we perceived to be racism, was defended by them. There were many debates and arguments about it. Basically, Sean & the others (led by Sean) labelled our attitude to this RACISM as unwarranted censorship, and they made excuses as to why what some members posted wasn't really racism at all - though in our opinion, it was. We repeatedly told Sean / Krakhead that the racism would deter decent people from joining / staying, but were just accused of not understanding, and trying to 'nanny'.
I wanted to leave, as did others, but we kept talking each other into hanging around a bit longer, to attempt to steer things, as far as we were able, in a more positive direction.
I had several differences of opinion with Alison in particular, not specifically over racism, but just over her being (imo) an unreasonable, egotistical bitch. She would stomp round the mod thread barking instructions and generally talking to people like shit, but give her a bit back, no matter how gentle, she'd behave like Shirley Temple having a flaming tantrum.
I've already given one eg on this board of the multitude of instances where I felt these seniors behaved unfairly and irrationally (the 'Jesus Was a MOTHERFUCKER' and 'My Gym Shoes Smell Like Cheese' fiasco).
Sean couldn't admit outright that he wanted me out so that Alison could come back, because he only had the backing of Krakhead. The other admins weren't happy about it - in fact one of them challenged Sean outright as to whether his suggestion that I should leave was because of the situation with Alison, and he denied it. That's right if you're reading shit-heads - more than one admin showed me screen-prints of the Admin thread which even mod's aren't privy to - so I know exactly what went on there. The only people wanting me out were the unholy trinity of Alison (who, as one admin pointed out to Sean, shouldn't have any say in the matter as she was now only a forum member) Krakhead & Sean.
After some PM's back & forth between myself & Sean, whereby he claimed I should leave because I wasn't good a moderating, and me asking him to give examples, and him stalwartly ignoring these requests, he just changed my status to member.
It had been during this time that we were communicating that Sean had been reading my PM's, which is why I'm convinced he was just looking for some excuse to sack me. However, I wasn't aware of the PM reading until later.
One of the mods, STRT, was the one who caught Sean at it. We all (including members if I'm not mistaken) had the facility to view what everyone else was doing. i.e. I could click on, say Gremlin's name for example, and see that he was reading or composing a PM, or reading or responding to a particular thread - though the content of the PM / post being composed etc could NOT be seen at all.
STRT writes computer programmes for a living, so when he looked what Sean was doing, he recognised that he was actually reading MY PM's. He recognised part of the URL no's depicted they were specifically mine. Had I spotted him doing it, I wouldn't even have recognised what those numbers meant so I wouldn't have realised what he was up to.
Before STRT told me what he'd witnessed, he asked me to look up a series of 4 or 5 numbers & told me which part of the screen to hover my mouse over so that the relevant number would become visible. It was only when I identified each one of these numbers to be linked to a specific one of my PM's that he was completely certain of what he'd seen Sean doing.
STRT then challenged Sean on the mod thread. Though I could no longer get into that thread, being a member, many people regularly showed me screen-shots to keep me abreast of what was transpiring.
Sean emphatically denied having read my PM's, feigning hurt indignation that anyone would even think to suggest such a preposterous thing, and claiming he didn't even have the software to facilitate it.
So STRT then posted in the mod-thread the irrefutable evidence of Sean reading my PM's in the form of screen-shots of him doing it!
That's when Sean changed his stance, and pretended he'd done it because he had reason to believe I'd been breaking forum rules, and that as webmaster, he can do whatever the hell he wants, and if they didn't like it they could sling their hooks. He amended the forum rules then to include his right to read people's PMs.
I emailed Icke's office to complain about what had happened, as did STRT, Limelady, DarkEternal and Pinkfreud. I can't remember whether other mods did aswell. None of us received any reply.
There are sections of the mod thread from that time that were copy & pasted onto the Infinite Love Forum and I think Sodlike Productions, which show that every single mod resigning or being sacked was the direct result of that sneaky little twat reading PM's. Nothing else - no secret Prozionist meetings or black sodding magical attacks. That's all Sean talking complete and utter bollocks, because he's a lying bastard. In fact, it's bollocks that he's only made up recently. He didn't even offer those excuses at the time - just that he had a right to do it because he'd had intelligence from a trustworthy source, advising him that I was breaking forum rules. He's yet to inform me what rules he's referring to.
At the time, he claimed it was only my PM's he'd read & nobody else's. He's recently changed that to it being a number of mods he was spying on. Though when it occurred and he claimed in the mod-thread that he'd only ever read mine, Logic Bomb (an admin at the time) pointed out to him that one of those was a conversation between me & him, so he'd automatically spied on him too - and the same would apply to all my PM's since they were each between myself & someone else.
Amongst my PM's that he read, there was one which I thought could possibly have been used as his excuse, though he never, ever mentioned it to me, or offered any justification for sacking me.
This was one where I was sick to the back teeth of watching Alison stalk Tusme & Merlincove, who were new, around the mod forum, bollocking them for everything they did & snapping their heads off for everything they said. I was equally sick of them not sticking up for themselves and apologising profusely for everything and posting embarrassed face emoticons instead of sticking up for themselves. I PM'd them both saying that if they wanted to run things they weren't sure about past myself or Limelady, they were welcome to do that, rather than exposing themselves to the wrath of the sabre-tongued harridan. I think I also urged themselves to stick up for themselves a bit.
At a later point in time, when Krakhead was posting some shit on a different forum, I rung him up and challenged him. He was extremely sheepish - not the loud-mouthed know-it-all he appears on-line - he sounded like he was crapping himself! I had his address because I'd posted him a book to read some time previously, so I used this to get his number from directory enquiries. He claimed he'd almost resigned himself on learning of Sean's reading PM's, but had decided to stay because he enjoyed it. He also expressed shock that Sean had never given me any reason for sacking me beyond that I wasn't a good mod - he said that it was the PM I'd sent to Tusme & Merlincove, which they'd reported. I wouldn't put it past them. I was good friends with Merlincove initially, and did a lot to help him when he started modding, but he proved himself throughout this carry-on to be a completely two-faced, lying arse.
However, that wouldn't explain why Sean was in my PM's anyway - if it was down to them reporting that, how come they didn't just show him the PM I'd sent them? Why did he feel the need to go through all my messages. STRT said that although he'd only taken that screen shot which identified 4 or 5 PM's, he'd witnessed him reading lots more.
Needless to say, as soon as I was out, Alison resumed her place at the helm.
The people who left - Dark Eternal, Lime Lady, Shodan, Logic Bomb, Pink Freud (apologies to any I've unwittingly ommitted) either left of their own accord because they were disgusted at what had gone on, or were got rid of for voicing dissent on the mod-thread.
When things were getting too hot for Sean to handle, he blocked a lot of us from using our accounts, yet our status were left showing that we were 'Active' members.
Being still unable to get any answer on the telephone, a few of us emailed Icke's office re this, and quelle surpirse - got no answer.
That's when I logged in in my husband's rarely used account, under the name 'Drawer', and posted on 30 or 40 threads that Sean had been caught reading PM's and rendered us inactive despite our status's showing otherwise.
That then led to a lot more bollocks being bandied about, and actively encouraged by Alison etc, because he's a Mason - so then it was all "shock, horror, OMG - Gilly's a Mason - that must be something to do with her doing the evil things that Sean's sacked her for". For fuck's sake!
: -- I was making fun of him, and his piss poor attempts to convince people that something nefarious like "pro Zionist mods" banned because of "psychic attacks" on the forum. We all know
: to be a megalomaniacal, pm reading liar. That's why we're
BTW, great post. Thank you. I've maintained that I don't think the mods are free to moderate as they please, and that terms of "moderation" are dictated to them by
: and i_am. Your post confirms that. I remember you well from before you were gone from there. I honestly thought you were one of the better mods there. Glad you're here.
I wasn’t saying your ego at all. I think took that the wrong way. I should have said something along the lines of reptilian mind or Archon mind. I can understand why you would have thought I was referring to you, because of the tone and misunderstandings in the previous paragraphs of my post but I was not.
no pic thou. on warning I believe? 
get rid of all undesirables and leave a world inhabited by special people. 
