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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 13 Sep 2013 00:32 #2901

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But now I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma,
a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.
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A quote from a John Keel book -The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings - page 211.
Ever since Dr. Anton Mesmer was run out of Vienna in the nineteenth century, we have known of the problems involved in using mesmerism—or hypnosis—as evidence of anything. In the mid-1950s, with the advent of the Bridey Murphy craze, millions of people began hypnotizing each other to explore their past lives. Reincarnation became the subject of the day and, not surprisingly, most of us discovered that we had been noble kings and princesses in another age. The unconscious mind is a notorious prankster and, under hypnosis, delights in producing the kind of information being sought by the hypnotist. In many cases the hypnotized subject is actually able to read the hypnotist's mind and tailor his or her "evidence" to whatever the hypnotist believes in or is seeking! This is why testimony produced by hypnosis is not permitted in a court of law. If the hypnotist believes in ghosts, flying saucers, or some weird political idea, the subject will come up with material to support that belief and will even weave a whole fantasy world around the hypnotist's thoughts. Some of these fantasies can become very elaborate.

When CBS did a TV special on hypnosis back in the 1960s, a television technician was hypnotized on camera and told that CBS executives were conspiring to take over the world. That's all he was told. He immediately launched into a long and very convincing narrative about attending a meeting of the plotters. He described the room where the meeting was held and each man who was there. Then he laid out the whole fiendish plan that was discussed. It was very complex and sounded very real. His unconscious mind had a ball constructing the fantasy and implicating the mild-mannered technician in the evil scheme. Someone tuning into the show late might have been led to believe that CBS was, indeed, getting ready to take over the world.

Food for thought? Maybe.. :thumbup:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 15 Sep 2013 00:30 #2903

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I keep meaning to mention a great book I read a while ago, called "When Prophecy Fails." It's especially eye opening in relation to he who must not be named. It was published in 1956, but still entirely relevant.. Maybe even more so today.

The PDF is quite hard to track down, but I managed to get it in mobi format and converted it, so if anyone is interested, I can upload it and give the link out via PM :thumbup:

Or alternatively, you can buy it from Amazon.

And here's the wiki.

I'd like a scan please MP....

The new look Icke front page is shite. Even worse than when it went all green.
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Yeah, I paid my once in a blue moon visit to there the other day and noticed it had all changed.

Well, on the surface at least :thumbup:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 15 Sep 2013 21:34 #2905

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Yeah, I paid my once in a blue moon visit to there the other day and noticed it had all changed.

Well, on the surface at least :thumbup:

Still a nest of NaNs, as far as I can see. :coffee:

arcyclus
that the terms, "Neo-Nazi", "White supremacist", and "Racist", are terms created by the, Anti Defamation League/Abe Foxman and MSM, for the purposes of, division, destruction, and smear tactics, aimed at white people only

bendoon
lies about people and make out only white people are racist

rydeon
Malcom X was in favor of separation as it's the only way out of the MultKULTuralist hellhole many cities in the US have turned into.

voxvot
"Indigenous" is zio-liberal codeword for "rightful owners" and is only used to refer to non-white populations.

akbul ahau
The talk about "Nazis" being racist is one of the biggest lies ever told.

ellis deatrip
"Neo-Nazi" is a Judaised term, used to demonize any opponent of the multicult cult's agenda

wandering sufi
America are racist against Whites.

sociowarspasmphobe
Fact is Hitler had majority support for much of his political career.

iluminawti
As for these guys in the states wanting to set up a white city I really dont see the problem.

nico de geit
I want to live in a 100% white area

steve Anderson
I was mocking the idea that there even is "fascism" in the 21st century. If there were, though, it would probably be better the crap we have now,

brokenshadow
Actually an all white town is a good thing.

jsy2k
No crime rate either.

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Or is it just those smelly, soft, sick, sociopath white devils?

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Can anyone give a valid reason why its wrong for whites to have a territory to themselves?
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TPTB want us all to give up any sense of personal, national, cultural, religious or racial identity. They dislike racial separatists far more than you do.

The most racist group in the world is probably American blacks.

And that is ONE THREAD! :facepalm:
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=254278&page=2

Not to mention the NaN regulars

jmmk
eternal spirit/progress forward
rodin
tinyint
gremlin
resistance
zephirop
believenothing

and our very own shaker

and a few new faces/socks

mephibosheth
vancity eagle
metaspiral
bright eyes
akana
saint Frankenstein
kaito
georgesmiley
joiningthedots
solarclarity
crabhat
queare verum

and again, just from ONE thread
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=234854&page=7

I could not list them all. :taptap:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 15 Sep 2013 21:48 #2906

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I would respect them a lot more if they just said openly "I don't like black people / asians / homosexuals / white people that disagree with me" rather than putting forward these utterly lame arguments and cod pseudo-philosophies that surely wouldn't convince anyone with a mental age above that of an eight year-old.

All this supposed worry about 'multiculturalism'. Do what the fuck you want, no-one will stop you! If someone does stop you, it will almost certainly be a white official enforcing the laws of the predominantly white establishment (not that the racial make-up of this establishment is of any particular relevance).

TPTB want to destroy racial identity. No, they don't. They don't give a shit about it. All they want is for you to consume, consume, consume, obey, obey, obey, let them dominate all the resources and don't do anything to get in the way of anything that they do which enables them to do this. They don't give a fucking shit what you do apart from that.
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Agreed WUB.

Ofc the DIF does not really make the slightest impact on my life, but the rise of the extreme right across the internet is alarming and history shows that violent militant racist groups do prove very useful ground troops for TPTB.

Greece's Golden Dawn is a good current example.

I posted the previous post, merely because I wished to dispel any notion of a "crackdown" by the Admin there on these clowns. If anything, things have deteriorated.

And recent footage of Daisy and Icke together on YT really makes it hard to believe that David Icke is unaware, let alone opposed to the Stormfrontification of his namesake website.

Since many of us met on DIF, and were kicked out for that reason, it holds some relevance to SZ.
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The term 'multicult hellhole' that is banded about so often actually makes me feel violent & sick.
& I'm white!

It's a melting pot etc etc etc

Only when racist tit wrenches stir it up. Wankers.
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Laugh at his name Gilly, but he is POWERFUL and has a big following all over the world. Look I like David Icke, but I do not agree with his notion about Occultists do all this that and the other, but I will say that he is a Theoposihist and I would not be surprised if he had a past life which is known to all...
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Maximilian Ritter von Pohl (15 April 1893 – 26 July 1951) was a highly decorated General der Flieger in the Luftwaffe during World War II. He was also a recipient of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross. The Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross was awarded to recognise extreme battlefield bravery or successful military leadership.. Maximilian Ritter von Pohl Was captured by American troops in May 1945 and was held until 1947...David Vaughan Icke (IKE, born 29 April 1952)...

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Agreed WUB.

Ofc the DIF does not really make the slightest impact on my life, but the rise of the extreme right across the internet is alarming and history shows that violent militant racist groups do prove very useful ground troops for TPTB.

Greece's Golden Dawn is a good current example.

I posted the previous post, merely because I wished to dispel any notion of a "crackdown" by the Admin there on these clowns. If anything, things have deteriorated.

And recent footage of Daisy and Icke together on YT really makes it hard to believe that David Icke is unaware, let alone opposed to the Stormfrontification of his namesake website.

Since many of us met on DIF, and were kicked out for that reason, it holds some relevance to SZ.
I thought I was a patient person, but you have more patience than me, mate! I just can't be fucked with those idiots, but it's certainly interesting, amusing and informative to read their latest ramblings.

I must say in mitigation, and probably some will disagree with this, but I have always found resistance to be okay. He was kind to me personally, and I never forget such things, and I don't think he is a bad person, albeit I don't agree with his views on several subjects. You can have a conversation with him, and he will enter into a dialogue with you in a reasonable fashion.

The others are a bunch of idiots, and the ones that I'm aware of, if they ever got what they actually wanted (not that they even know what this is) they'd still be bloody miserable and complain about it because they're fundamentally unhappy, maladjusted people. If you took their 'philosophies' to their natural conclusion, you'd end up with the 'Turner Diaries', and I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be a very attractive proposition based on what I've read about that book.

I'm not sure if Icke knows. As I've said many times, if I had my own website with my name on it, I would never have an open forum on it.
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The term 'multicult hellhole' that is banded about so often actually makes me feel violent & sick.
& I'm white!

It's a melting pot etc etc etc

Only when racist tit wrenches stir it up. Wankers.
Having lived in Manchester, I'm not crazy about the ghettoisation that quite evidently takes place, and I would have a hard time arguing that various races and faith groups don't tend to mix and reside with 'their own kind'.

It's also the case, though, that there is absolutely no problem whatsoever with any of these ethnic, racial groups mixing, and no-one even attempts to stop anyone from doing anything 'cultural'. I've never heard of any problems between the Jewish and Asian communities, for example, and everyone mixes perfectly well in the city with absolutely no problems whatsoever.

And certainly no-one has ever bothered me in any way or attempted to stop me from doing what I wanted to do. Apart from when I had a job and they expected me to turn up occasionally...
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A Borg drone explains why Karaite Judaism is Inferior..

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The whole situation has come about from economic manipulation and thats a topic which nazis don't want to touch anyway because they basically just want a world that consists of nothing but England with a hardline authoritarian govt.

It really boils down to how pathetic they are because they can't compete with unskilled immigrants for jobs.

They talk of right wing etc, yet if they really did have all out wingnuttery then they would have no NHS and no dole, no nothing.
They would still have no job and they would basically starve to death while ironically enough I would probably do just fine....yet it is ME who is against such a situation because its precisely what corporations want now that they have dominance, if you pull the plug on socialism now all that will happen is that the income disparity will accelerate because the game is now too rigged for anything else to happen, govt has handed them the economy on a plate and they are now bigger than govt, they have cornered energy, food, water, transport, telecoms and we are just royally fucked now. I see no way out of it by voting, I see no way out of it by supporting anything politically.
All we can do now is just survive it best we can and gripe about it because there are not enough of us well educated and well connected enough to co-operate with alternatives and more to the point we do not have the money to invest in it, even collectively unless we are talking thousands of people. We lost this game about 400 years ago.
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Apart from when I had a job and they expected me to turn up occasionally...

:chuckle:
Cheers WUB. Have to say that IMHO, resistance was too smart to take you on. ;)

But kudos for speaking as you find. :thumbup:
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mikey mikey wrote:

And recent footage of Daisy and Icke together on YT really makes it hard to believe that David Icke is unaware, let alone opposed to the Stormfrontification of his namesake website.

Mikey, if you can find the transcripts of the Icke/Royal Admas courtcase (I've looked a few times recently with no luck) you will see Icke openly admitting to scouring his website on a daily basis - 10 hour sermons and copy/paste books not permitting.

The man is a crank and an absolute liar.

Taken from yet another John keel book (Our Haunted Planet, introduction) this quote describes Icke and his ilk to a tee.

In his book, In the Name of Science, Martin Gardner defines the characteristics of the common crank or pseudoscientist. He lists the four chief attributes as being: (1) The crank considers himself a genius... even a towering genius who is years ahead of his time. (2) He considers his colleagues and fellow researchers 'ignorant block-heads', largely because they fail to recognize his genius. He assaults his opponents by impugnation, questioning their honesty, intelligence, and motives. They respond in kind, naturally, and so great storms are whipped up in the trivial teacups of the scientific and pseudoscientific journals. Controversy is the lifeblood of crankism. (3) The pseudoscientist is paranoid and feels he is the victim of a vast conspiracy designed to suppress his brilliant work. In many instances these imagined conspiracies become a vital part of the subject itself, as for example, the endless literature discussing how the U.S. Air Force has been keeping the truth about flying saucers from the public. (4) The crank delights in focusing his attacks 'on the greatest scientists and the best-established theories'. He goes after big game. He is wiser than Einstein, knows more about astronomy than Fred Hoyle, and is better informed about the moon than Neil Armstrong.

The crank also invents his own terminology: a jabberwocky understood only by him and his closest allies. So, we find the literature filled with confusing and complicated terms which are merely displays of pseudoerudition, or what psychiatrists call neologisms.

Over the years I have met the leaders of many peculiar cults and pseudoscientific factions of belief. With very few exceptions, they have all lived up to the above criteria. Most were friendly and co-operative with me until they realized that I did not share their beliefs in Atlantis or visitors from Andromeda. Then they turned on me with wrathful vengeance and launched such campaigns of un-founded slander that I could only be amazed and amused. I have now been accused of being everything from a Communist con man to a secret agent for the Central Intelligence Agency; from a religious fanatic (I'm a lifelong agnostic) to a pawn of the devil. Typo-graphical errors, over which I have no control, in my many articles and books have been lovingly dissected by these groups and prompted countless letters and essays reviewing their sinister im-plications. After twenty-five years as a writer and reporter dedicated to collecting the facts as objectively and as honestly as possible, my integrity has been attacked from all angles.

Make of that what you will, naturally :thumbup:
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That is a fairly apt description.

Thanks MP.
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Even if Icke never looks on his forum, he was informed via email by myself and other mods & admin at the time that a lot of us left / were banned for objecting to the way things were. So to doubt his knowledge, you'd have to believe that all those emails were intercepted before reaching him and he was kept in the dark about them.

Yet there was a response posted by Sean, supposedly composed by Icke, that did nothing to address the concerns we'd expressed, and instead, making us out to be trouble-makers.

There's some doubt as to who actually penned it, as when I called Krakhead and spoke to him, I said it sounded like Sean's words, and rather than deny it, he said he thought Sean had written it himself. But you see, I doubt Sean would risk posting stuff pretending it was Icke's words, unless he'd been given free-reign to do that.

So at the very least, Icke is completely ignorant by choice, and negligently so, imo.

But I think he knows what goes on there, and either supports it or just doesn't give a toss about racism.
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.....and we all know that :seany is quite capable of starting threads under the guise of other forum members!
Hence one of the reasons DG set up the original Sanctum

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mikey mikey wrote:

And recent footage of Daisy and Icke together on YT really makes it hard to believe that David Icke is unaware, let alone opposed to the Stormfrontification of his namesake website.

Mikey, if you can find the transcripts of the Icke/Royal Admas courtcase (I've looked a few times recently with no luck) you will see Icke openly admitting to scouring his website on a daily basis - 10 hour sermons and copy/paste books not permitting.

The man is a crank and an absolute liar.

Taken from yet another John keel book (Our Haunted Planet, introduction) this quote describes Icke and his ilk to a tee.

In his book, In the Name of Science, Martin Gardner defines the characteristics of the common crank or pseudoscientist. He lists the four chief attributes as being: (1) The crank considers himself a genius... even a towering genius who is years ahead of his time. (2) He considers his colleagues and fellow researchers 'ignorant block-heads', largely because they fail to recognize his genius. He assaults his opponents by impugnation, questioning their honesty, intelligence, and motives. They respond in kind, naturally, and so great storms are whipped up in the trivial teacups of the scientific and pseudoscientific journals. Controversy is the lifeblood of crankism. (3) The pseudoscientist is paranoid and feels he is the victim of a vast conspiracy designed to suppress his brilliant work. In many instances these imagined conspiracies become a vital part of the subject itself, as for example, the endless literature discussing how the U.S. Air Force has been keeping the truth about flying saucers from the public. (4) The crank delights in focusing his attacks 'on the greatest scientists and the best-established theories'. He goes after big game. He is wiser than Einstein, knows more about astronomy than Fred Hoyle, and is better informed about the moon than Neil Armstrong.

The crank also invents his own terminology: a jabberwocky understood only by him and his closest allies. So, we find the literature filled with confusing and complicated terms which are merely displays of pseudoerudition, or what psychiatrists call neologisms.

Over the years I have met the leaders of many peculiar cults and pseudoscientific factions of belief. With very few exceptions, they have all lived up to the above criteria. Most were friendly and co-operative with me until they realized that I did not share their beliefs in Atlantis or visitors from Andromeda. Then they turned on me with wrathful vengeance and launched such campaigns of un-founded slander that I could only be amazed and amused. I have now been accused of being everything from a Communist con man to a secret agent for the Central Intelligence Agency; from a religious fanatic (I'm a lifelong agnostic) to a pawn of the devil. Typo-graphical errors, over which I have no control, in my many articles and books have been lovingly dissected by these groups and prompted countless letters and essays reviewing their sinister im-plications. After twenty-five years as a writer and reporter dedicated to collecting the facts as objectively and as honestly as possible, my integrity has been attacked from all angles.

Make of that what you will, naturally :thumbup:

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I wonder if david will allow the 'peoples voice' to reflect the same views as those reflected on his website - somehow I doubt it.
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