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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 15:31 #2961

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Nice thread on the dif at the mo by mountain about low intelligence is connected to racism, see them fuckpigs squirm hahaha
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 15:47 #2962

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I'm constantly fascinated by the number of people who profess a repugnance for dif but can't stay away from it. :dunno:
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 17:19 #2963

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I like to have a look sometimes, lurking there is much more preferable to participation
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 17:23 #2964

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
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Blimey that is a LONG read! Took me ages just to scroll through it all. Somebody clearly has it right in for him to go to that much effort!
I noticed there was a screenshot from here on there too!
Yeah, I took the time to read it because I didn't think anyone else would be arsed! Understandably so. I don't know if Andy read it, but the screenshot was mainly one of his posts, and the sadly absent quietgirl and I can't remember who the third person was, it might have been dub actually.

I'm not sure I can precis the whole thing as it was quite detailed, but it was really mainly talking about funding issues related to TPV. It probably should have gone in that thread actually. The main thing was that people are working for them on an entirely voluntary basis, but there is a certain cabal of people who are presumably being well paid, including mainstream journalist Sonia Poulton.

I'd already concluded that this would be the case myself when I heard Poulton was involved - not that I've got anything against her. It's absolutely right that a pretty successful journalist should expect to be paid for work. But you cannot ask for £300,000 from the public, pay the likes of Poulton and some of the other people involved really well, and then say to another group of people that you expect them to work full-time on a voluntary basis. You have to pay people at least the minimum wage, otherwise you don't have a viable business. Especially when they're working in sales, as the author was, which is the most important part of the operation.

There are lots of other allegations about funding which seem to have some merit, it's worth a read if you can be arsed. I was mentioned in the SZ posts that are on there, so I took the time to let him know what I thought about it.

I read bits of it as I was scrolling though, but there's no way I can be arsed to read all of it!
Cheers for the summary though..
I had a look at the program schedule for TPV, it didn't look very interesting.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 17:24 #2965

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dantesrevival wrote:
I like to have a look sometimes, lurking there is much more preferable to participation

Yeh I'll have the occasional scan just to remind myself how bad it was/see how much worse it's got.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 17:52 #2966

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I had a nosey t'other week, the thread about Golden Dawn and the stabbing had turned into a discussion on the merits of a specific Nazi tank, obviously the poster with ridiculous knowledge of machinery that existed before they did doesn't mean they are a Nazi, nosireebob.

It would appear that the place has miraculously found new depths to plummet to.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 17:53 #2967

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dantesrevival wrote:
I like to have a look sometimes, lurking there is much more preferable to participation

I prefer not to bother, its a bit like hanging around a psuedo-stormfront. Fuck it basically.
I got banned from DIF several months after I didn't bother going there, says it all. I dunno why mountain and AA still stay there, gluttons for punishment. They'd much prefer it here.
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The freeman-on-the-land sub forum there is so bizarre I don't know why they bother having it. It's full of people who constantly debunk it.
The occasional person will show up sprouting the usual shite they've read or seen on a youtube vid & their claims are quickly refuted ... then that's it & they bugger off!
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 19:56 #2969

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The freeman-on-the-land sub forum there is so bizarre I don't know why they bother having it. It's full of people who constantly debunk it.
The occasional person will show up sprouting the usual shite they've read or seen on a youtube vid & their claims are quickly refuted ... then that's it & they bugger off!
FMOTL is obviously a load of rubbish because even if it did have validity, the establishment will just use their braindead lackeys to come round and kick your door down. We've seen in the United States that they used tanks on their own citizens, murdering them by shooting fire through the windows of a compound, lied about it, the news just repeated the government's version, and there wasn't ever anything remotely close to an inquest or apology. They don't care about legitimate arguments, they will use the legal system when it benefits them, and if they don't like the outcome they will use coercive power, as violently as is necessary.

It is quite amusing to me, though, given that obvious reality which everyone should know about if they know anything about their own history that you still get people sitting on the FMOTL forum (I assume) who are professional lawyers in some cases, who are desperate to defend the establishment and existing legal system. Even though anyone who hasn't taken leave of their senses can quite easily see that it's completely cronyist and elitist at best, or utterly corrupt at worst. I think it's because they think they're part of the establishment. Much though in principle I revile it, it's actually going to be amusing for me to watch some of these people having their bank accounts frozen and money taken from their accounts. They'll probably still defend the establishment even after it's happened!
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 20:40 #2970

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Yes at one point it was full of legal types & probably still is. There were times when there were some good debates with fmotl proponents, but the fmotlers soon got bored & fucked off to a place they could throw around their ideas without the hassle of it all getting rinsed by the legal beagles.
It seems to have all been a bit of a bizarre scam, with people like Menard cashing in on 'how to' books & videos... which people naively thought could get them out of bother with the law. Obviously it didn't work, and in many cases ended up getting people in more trouble than they were in, or getting stuff like 'de-registered' cars towed away.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 20:49 #2971

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Exactly, they are above the law, they do whatever the hell they like, so the whole FMOTL stuff is obviously complete worthless bollocks.
It is right in principle but thats no use to you when dealing with crooks.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 21:27 #2972

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I've never seen anything that validated any of the fmotl ideas. It is just a total crock.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 21:45 #2973

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I've never seen anything that validated any of the fmotl ideas. It is just a total crock.

You cannot live without the state in the UK in some fashion or other sticking its nose into everything. Because of that the whole concept doesn't have a leg to stand on.
I like its morals, its just impossible is all.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 21:50 #2974

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andyh wrote:
I like its morals, its just impossible is all.


I looked into it a bit some years back and agree with that.
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psketti wrote:
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I like its morals, its just impossible is all.


I looked into it a bit some years back and agree with that.

The only way it can work is to turn the clock back to the wild west of the US with farmsteading.
Then you're not registering births, theres no SS to hound you and you have your own land to live off.
Fat fucking chance of that happening here, you'll get bollocked if you try.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 22:01 #2976

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andyh wrote:
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I've never seen anything that validated any of the fmotl ideas. It is just a total crock.

You cannot live without the state in the UK in some fashion or other sticking its nose into everything. Because of that the whole concept doesn't have a leg to stand on.
I like its morals, its just impossible is all.

Its morals seemed to revolve around unscrupulous people making money out of selling a load of waffle to vulnerable people.
There were some good points made though, especially about consent & how the courts were operating fraudulently.
But overall it's quite dangerous to blatantly spout a load of shit to people who are in trouble masked as 'good advice'. All that would happen is that people would end up in prison or with massive fines, and that would validate the fmotl perspective that the system was corrupt! Well we already know that! It's pointless trying to beat them at a game they designed.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 22:02 #2977

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andyh wrote:
you'll get bollocked if you try.


Severly restraining from another captain obvious here andy lad :D
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 20 Oct 2013 22:33 #2978

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I've never seen anything that validated any of the fmotl ideas. It is just a total crock.
I would tend to agree with this assessment having seen no end of people being carted off by the police, etc!

But I think that perhaps there is some theoretical validity to living under common law. It just doesn't matter, though, because they will send someone with an IQ of 80 round your house to kick the door down. And it ain't that hard to find people with IQs in that ballpark who like to delude themselves that they're somehow powerful or important.
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No contract.......

Nuff said
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Its amusing to note that although courts are supposed to have primacy based upon contractual law the law itself stipulates that contracts need only be in writing when in relation to real estate and wills ofc.
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