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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jan 2014 15:04 #3221

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Ouch :hitting:
Ok sorry Jane


What you being sorry for? :psketti:

''getting back onto that Paul Stott shite''
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Blue_Tackler wrote:
psketti wrote:
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Ouch :hitting:
Ok sorry Jane


What you being sorry for? :psketti:

''getting back onto that Paul Stott shite''


Oh I see... I read janes post as 'site' the first time around... :D


No idea if it was a typo or not... jane, did you mean to say 'site' or shite'?
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Yes, but so what? That also applies to you and your magazine, and to me and my books, and to Henry Kissinger. Doesn't mean that what we say is all true, does it?

from the last post in the stott article - interesting choice of words mr icke - probably one of the most sincere things i have seen you write.
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psketti wrote:
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psketti wrote:
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Ouch :hitting:
Ok sorry Jane


What you being sorry for? :psketti:

''getting back onto that Paul Stott shite''


Oh I see... I read janes post as 'site' the first time around... :D


No idea if it was a typo or not... jane, did you mean to say 'site' or shite'?

Me too. But now I'm confused to what Jane's getting at.
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Rumours about the David Icke Forum 14 Jan 2014 16:39 #3225

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oioioi wrote:
Me too. But now I'm confused to what Jane's getting at.
Constantly attacks people who question the official version of 9/11. But defends the EDL:

paulstott.typepad.com/i_intend_to_escape...on-and-quilliam.html

Apparently the people that question 9/11 are "dangerous", but the leader of the EDL might have a reasonable viewpoint and perspective. Basically arguing against Edward Snowden here, although he's too academic and pretentious to actually offer an explicit viewpoint:

paulstott.typepad.com/i_intend_to_escape...-for-our-spooks.html

His blog is absolutely terrible, and he makes innumerable completely false and incorrect assumptions. Having said that, I'm sure he's not a bad person when it comes down to it, it's just that many people are very misguided.
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wake_up_bomb wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Me too. But now I'm confused to what Jane's getting at.
Constantly attacks people who question the official version of 9/11. But defends the EDL:

paulstott.typepad.com/i_intend_to_escape...on-and-quilliam.html

Apparently the people that question 9/11 are "dangerous", but the leader of the EDL might have a reasonable viewpoint and perspective. Basically arguing against Edward Snowden here, although he's too academic and pretentious to actually offer an explicit viewpoint:

paulstott.typepad.com/i_intend_to_escape...-for-our-spooks.html

His blog is absolutely terrible, and he makes innumerable completely false and incorrect assumptions. Having said that, I'm sure he's not a bad person when it comes down to it, it's just that many people are very misguided.

:arrowup: Like WuB has highlighted...except I said shite.....
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Anyway, DIF is a forum to discuss DI books and the issues raised within them, I was once informed of this by a DIFM.
It appears to be the case that this is a straw man forum concept.
Basically if anyone disagrees with DI or points out his flaws then that person is likely to be one, or more than one of the following...
Shill, agent of tptb, a sheeple, not awake, troll, thread derailment merchant, naysayer, negative poster, one of those people that David talks about,( to busy ''bickering to see the light'') or numerous other straw man distractions to prevent DIF from 'attack'.
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The People's Voice 15 Jan 2014 00:31 #3228

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I was recently banned over at truth zone for harping on this point. Admittedly, I was a bit too vociferous in making the point, and I have no objection to ANY forum banning ANYONE for ANY reason. This includes DIF, TZ or SZ, or any other. Whoever pays the server fees makes the rules and therefore, I am able to continue to post at THEIR discretion on THEIR forum. :)

Getting banned on a forum should never be an issue, as long as one has the ability to start their own forum paying their own server fees, or has access to a blog page, either paid for and sponsored, or available for a fee. Or, if you aren't inclined to use the internet, you can still broadcast as a radio station, as long as you aren't interfering with the right of others to do so.

This whole notion of "I'm entitled to post on DIF and say whatever the fook I want" is a bit of a red herring. Diamondgeezer and pheony didn't like it when I called them out on their double standard (free speech for those who hate icke, abuse towards those who defend him), and I was banned. Notice that there are only 3 other posters (vambo, jay darcy and dots) who defend or support Icke. Vambo and jay have disappeared, and dots is more or less inactive. In effect, practically speaking TZ is a david icke hate site. As is SZ, practically speaking. So was infinite love.

To make a brief story even briefer, no one has the "right" to post on any internet forum. It's not in the magna carta, or the US constitution. These are all privately owned and subsidized internet sites and the owner can do whatever they fuck they want with their own site, including restricting membership as they please, and limiting comments as they please. Don't like it? Start your own website or tv or radio station or youtube channel. Anyone who cannot recognize this basic fact is as dumb as a knob. No pun intended.
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Anyone fnding this place who wants to have a rant, should go right ahead. It goes without saying that it's going to happen and given it's all still very fresh and ongoing, moaning about these threads being active isn't really warrented in my opinion.

People will find their own way around here in their own time and it would piss me off if I was new and being more or less told I'd said enough on a particular subject and asked to basically move along.

Which is how it reads to me.
If that's how it reads and judging by the several thanks you got for saying it, I guess it does to a good few folk, I apologise. It wasn't meant to be an instruction to close the thread. It was meant as Gilly, Jane and subsequently I have said. A plea to settle into the wider forum.
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The People's Voice 15 Jan 2014 00:41 #3229

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cowboy wrote:
Whoever pays the server fees makes the rules and therefore, I am able to continue to post at THEIR discretion on THEIR forum. :)
For the next 6 months I think that'll be Dawn then :thumbup: Just don't ask her to post a picture would be my advice if you want to stay here :secret: Generally though, the members pay the server fees here by chipping into the pot down the page. Think on that a while....
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Howdy cowboy (bet you've never heard that before!)it's a bit late/I'm too stoned to be going into details and while I agree with the gist of your post, that is free speech does not mean you can say what you want where you want, but ownership and who calls the shots on SZ are issues dealt with in slightly less conventional ways!
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cowboy wrote:

In effect, practically speaking TZ is a david icke hate site. As is SZ, practically speaking. So was infinite love.


:roll:


*anticipates some practically speaking*
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The People's Voice 15 Jan 2014 00:45 #3232

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It's so wonderful to see you again, cowboy! ;)
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psketti wrote:
cowboy wrote:

In effect, practically speaking TZ is a david icke hate site. As is SZ, practically speaking. So was infinite love.


:roll:


*anticipates some practically speaking*

:ickemullet & :seany have got more hate for this place between them than this forum will ever have collectively for either of them.

Try typing our name on their forum!
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If you think about it, their hatred is causing them to miss an opportunity :D
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I may be mistaken but I have a feeling cowboy has a tendancy to get rather hot under the collar when DIF associated cunts staff aren't around to defend themselves when the bad people use naughty words against them.


If I'm wrong on that, I do apologize cowboy and welcome to the forum :thumbup:
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psketti wrote:
I may be mistaken but I have a feeling cowboy has a tendancy to get rather hot under the collar when DIF associated cunts staff aren't around to defend themselves when the bad people use naughty words against them.

Oh dear oh dear, how terrible.
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@cowboy

you are ofc right no one has the 'right' to post on a forum. What forums offer is a form of contract, if you agree to and abide by preset terms and conditions you are given membership and the ability to participate through posting, private messaging and chat if those are part of the forum. My main gripe with ickes as an example was that the rules and conditions on which i signed up to and agreed to were retrospectively changed and that in many instances points and bannings were awarded or posts removed though no 'rule' as such had been broken, whilst conversely posts that did contravene the rules and posters who did so appeared to do so with impunity.

It was the hypocrisy of the situation rather than the situation itself that most pissed me off.

Tolerating views which I myself may disagree with is a different matter entirely and I personally welcome voices that are willing to remain respectful, even when diametrically opposed.

I don't believe that tz or sz or infinite love are icke hate sites, they may offer somewhere to vent and let off steam but that is not the sum total of what they have to offer. How much one takes from what they have to offer is up to each individual who chooses to participate.

Do i personally think icke is a shit? yes
Are others welcome to think he isn't? from my perspective an emphatic yes

I will put forth my reasons why I think the way I do but have no expectation that just because I feel that way others must too.

I forgot to add welcome - so erm welcome aboard :)
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The terms and conditions for a website's use are ALWAYS at the discretion of the owner of the website. They can change the terms and conditions at ANY TIME for ANY REASON. Why? Because they are the owners of the website. The owner/administrator (and his or her minion) can be as "arbitrary" or as capricious as they please. Why? Because they are owners/administrators of the website. If you don't like it, you are "free" not to use the website. This holds true for ANY and EVERY website: SZ, TZ, DIF, Infinite Love or any of the innumerable sites available on the internet.

Don't like the new rules? Stop using the site. Got kicked off? Start a new website.

None of your objections hold any water from either a legal or moral standpoint, as you have full access to the internet, as does everyone else. If you are not inclined to do so, as I have pointed out earlier, you have access to the airwaves, which no government owns.

All of the rest is whining about being banned from DIF. Which is ultimately the point of this site, TZ and Infinite Love.

To put it very simply, the terms and conditions of use of ANY website are as follows: "you may use the website at the owner's discretion." Any other language is unnecessary and just ancillary to the basic, common sense principle of ownership.
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@cowboy

you are ofc right no one has the 'right' to post on a forum. What forums offer is a form of contract, if you agree to and abide by preset terms and conditions you are given membership and the ability to participate through posting, private messaging and chat if those are part of the forum. My main gripe with ickes as an example was that the rules and conditions on which i signed up to and agreed to were retrospectively changed and that in many instances points and bannings were awarded or posts removed though no 'rule' as such had been broken, whilst conversely posts that did contravene the rules and posters who did so appeared to do so with impunity.

It was the hypocrisy of the situation rather than the situation itself that most pissed me off.

Tolerating views which I myself may disagree with is a different matter entirely and I personally welcome voices that are willing to remain respectful, even when diametrically opposed.

I don't believe that tz or sz or infinite love are icke hate sites, they may offer somewhere to vent and let off steam but that is not the sum total of what they have to offer. How much one takes from what they have to offer is up to each individual who chooses to participate.

Do i personally think icke is a shit? yes
Are others welcome to think he isn't? from my perspective an emphatic yes

I will put forth my reasons why I think the way I do but have no expectation that just because I feel that way others must too.
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A love letter to the NSA agent who is monitoring my online activity. :D


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cowboy wrote:
Start a new website.

They did.

/evil smirk :D
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