After spending enough time looking at Chris Whites numerous pathetic efforts believe me, it is.
He's just as bad as Makow. Its like having your teeth pulled out with pliers while trying to read Sylvia Plath at the same time.

How can you debunk David Icke? You can't just 'debunk' a person.

They'd have to disprove everything he has ever said.., does this vid do that?

... yet you totally misrepresent the manner in which Chris White presents his information by presenting a strawman argument to beat up on.

elfspirit wrote:
G'day Elfspirit.

Welcome to the forum.

I watched the video around 18 months to 2 years ago now, so I'd have to sit down and rewatch it to familiarise myself with the content. I do know that Chris White has a definite christian bias with his material, yet the bible is full of as much ridiculous material as Icke's stuff is. Is there anything in particular that you are interested in discussing in relationship to what is presented in the video ?

I noticed that you made mention of "he channels the same entities as Bailey" in another post. Icke has made a LOT of claims of channeling entities, from Saint Germain to Magnu. There is some information upon this thread ... www.infinite-love-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4252 ... that may be of interest to you.

...When he came up to meet Patti - the cult victim - I was really beginning to lose the veil I had with David.
But the work was important.
I saw first-hand what those people meant by him being rude.
The way he blanked Shona trying to tell him some important information about the occult (she knew a lot about it Icke didn't, but he just talked her down).
And when he waltzed into my house and sat down without invitation then swiped my cat off the arm of the chair without a blink, I realised that he wasn't spiritual at all.
All that unconditional love stuff is a front. He knows how to sell himself and make people fawn for his material, but when his act ends, the guy is in my view just a rude, arrogant, egomaniac who is struggling with his own masks and trying to convince himself that he's very special.
That cat had more true spirituality in its paw than Icke has in his entire body. ...

It's not a strawman argument, it's a legitimate question.

... Let me repeat what I said, with emphasis: ...

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Thank you for the link I Am All I Am, it was a very revealing reading. It confirms that his beliefs are at the very least manipulated. I've known for a while some of what he says is disinformation but thought he was unaware of it. There hasn't been a single attempt to eliminate him in all this years which is a clear sign his material is distorted to the point he's safe for the elite. Whatever explanations he may come up with about that it's a fact that everyone who speaks out enough truth to harm their agenda is silenced by harrassment, imprisoned or killed. What I could never imagine was what an ugly personality he is and the extent of his lies. There's another good read about him on sodlike productions:
sodlikeproductions.motion-forum.net/t679...cke-forumnow-deleted

Can't stand people that are mean to animals. Happy I woke up to who he is.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
G'day Wake_Up_Bomb.

You didn't refute any of the information presented by Chris White, such as Icke claiming to channel the ass-ended master "Rakorski' and that it comes from Alice Bailey. Instead you posted a question that has nothing to do with the information Chris White presented and make out AS IF you have refuted him.

That is commonly known of as a straw man argument ...

A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
wake_up_bomb wrote:
It's not required for you to repeat yourself, with emphasis or not, I read it and comprehended it clearly the first time you posted it.

A full of shit argument: Trying to suggest that wub thinks Icke is OK because he thinks Chris White is not.

wake_up_bomb wrote: The reason I haven't refuted any of the information provided by Chris White is because I'm not interested. In the slightest. According to him he's 'debunked' Gregg Braden (who I've never heard of), Jordan Maxwell (who I've never knowingly listened to at all), The Arrivals and the Wake Up Project (who I've never heard of), Clarification on The Arrivals & WUP (who I've never heard of), UFOs in Art (why on earth would you devote two videos to 'debunking' this, unless it challenged your Christian beliefs?), another video on Jordan Maxwell, faces and pyramids on Mars (why on earth would you devote two videos to 'debunking' this, unless it challenged your Christian beliefs?), The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (which doesn't need to be 'debunked' because it's most likely a forgery), Michael Tsarion (who I've never listened to at all), Zeitgeist (I haven't watched this film, I definitely rate the most recent Zeitgeist as a very good film, but predictably White is more interested in the one with Christian-related material in), Astrotheology, another film about Zeitgeist, another film about Michael Tsarion, then David Icke debunked. That's only scratching the surface, but I note that there's no 'Alex Jones (openly Christian) debunked'. I wonder why... does he 'debunk' Bill Cooper, another proclaimed Christian? Wow, surprisingly not.

What's his solution - wait for Jesus to come back and save us all? It's bloody ridiculous. This is part of the reason that the so-called 'truth movement' has achieved literally nothing. Nothing at all. Everyone constantly goes around attacking each other and believing that so-and-so has ripped someone else off, that this person is a gatekeeper, that someone else is an NWO plant, that this person is an agent. It's utterly ridiculous. These people live in a world of paranoid fantasy.

Sitting there musing on whether Michael Tsarion is a Rosicrucian is a total waste of time. The only thing that's going to make any difference to people's lives is changing the prevailing socio-economic, corporate, financial and political systems. Everything else is a dead end. The only person I've seen suggest anything practical or remotely concrete regarding this, let alone actually do anything towards it, is Peter Joseph. And he's persistently attacked for it.

Here he is Chris White promoting the bashing of homosexuals:

vimeo.com/10554921

What a complete cock. I wouldn't give him the time of day, let alone listen to his material.

andyh wrote:
G'day Andyh.

Can you provide a quote of anyone making such a claim ?

If not, then it's a wonder that you posted such a comment. Was there a specific purpose to do so ?

The only thing that's going to make any difference to people's lives is changing the prevailing socio-economic, corporate, financial and political systems. Everything else is a dead end.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
G'day Wake_Up_Bomb.

Enough said, the rest was superfluous.

I AM ALL I AM wrote:
Was there a specific purpose for you to side with a well known shill?

andyh wrote:
G'day Andyh.

So, no quote then. Got it.

I did not side with David Icke, I resent the insinuation.

I agree with Space Bandito that you can`t really debunk a person. However I will be sure to watch the video when I make time. I like much of what Icke says although he does tend to quote others a lot so it is kind of like agreeing with a bunch of other people sometimes. I have an open mind and will report back here perhaps if I feel it is worth it.