You have a serious feather fetish dubs

knobmeup wrote:
I wonder if I could upload the SanctumZone logo onto photobucket, and then let them have it that way?

And why the fuck wouldn't we/i andy? He's fucking gorgeous.

Blue_Tackler wrote:
Good thinking. Though now you have mentioned it here, ofc your PMs will be read and you will be booted.

d/p

knobmeup wrote:
was that a clue ?

We correctly cracked his 13 word acronym, Scal. all on our own, without an help from Knobe - in fact he tried to mislead us throughout in several ways. He was all like, " 6/7 words right...*edit* No 7/8 words right" and pretending he'd answered posts before they'd been submitted.

What's d/p mean?

(Knobe was a typo, but I like the look of it, so it stays).

Gilly wrote:
d/p double post

so what was the 13 words ?

Why would we/i try to mislead you Gilly? Considering the import of our/my mission and the fact there is a deadline?
No, the apparent misdirection was solely caused by us/me being wasted every night...

Gilly wrote:
My full title is knobe wan kenobi

knobmeup wrote:
Yeah but at least then we have more confirmation that 'they' are reading here.... btw I can pop down to my local library and use there internet to create an account, it's no bother for me coz I use the library system to do my printing .....

scaltura wrote:
GFBPABTHDOFEF = (the) Get Feather Back Pronto And Bow To His Demands Or Fucking Else Front.

knobmeup wrote:

Lol all the newcomers are now like WTF???

knobmeup wrote:
That's not what we call you behind your back!

Blue_Tackler wrote:
Trust, we already know they read here. Heck Daisy, I am and others even came to the chatroom to insult us a couple of times. It's not in question. Tbh I doubt your blue account will ever live again. So, the library it is, or summat like tor

For me, I’ve been reading about this stuff for 15 years, and other people like Chomsky, Pilger and Robert Fisk, as well as lots of economic commentators, and it’s completely obvious to me that the number one thing that has to be addressed is the economic system. As far as I’m concerned, at this point in time everything else is either a diversion or trivial by comparison. It’s obviously the most important issue because it’s coercive and compels us all to do things that we don’t want to do, or at least what we do is dictated by being economically viable.

About ten years ago, if you look at Icke’s book ‘And the truth shall set you free’ or AJ’s film ‘Martial Law’, I would have agreed with the majority of what they were saying, although I don’t get into all that Masonic stuff, and I’m not sure why AJ spent so long going on about Arnie becoming president in that film because that was patently never going to happen. I feel that since then they’re getting further and further away from a sensible or useful perspective.

I even heard a bit of Stefan Molyneux having a deabte with Peter Joseph recently:



I couldn’t be bothered to listen to the whole thing because Molyneux was talking complete tosh. But he was arguing that the government is the most important and corrosive element of the existing system, and if we eliminated the government everything would improve. This is a frankly ridiculous opinion that Peter Schiff has advocated and Ron Paul, and many others. I agree with many of the things that they say, but ultimately this view is bollocks.

Getting rid of the government will not do any good because ‘the market’ is controlled by quadrillion dollar interests that completely dominate everyone’s lives. They’re the people causing all the problems! So it doesn’t make much sense to then give them carte blanche to do whatever they want, and hope that they’ll organise society in some sort of remotely equal fashion. They clearly won’t. There won’t be anything like equality of opportunity; in fact there wouldn’t even be a minimum wage any more. We experience absolutely incredible exploitation now, but with what small amount of regulation there is removed, we would really see a race to the bottom. I am quite sure if you went to Max Keiser and asked him whether it would be a good idea to have a completely unregulated City of London and Wall Street then he would laugh in your face (of course, it’s barely regulated now).

But I don’t see anything from Icke or AJ or even Chomsky saying that the economic system has to fundamentally change, the entire structure of society must be altered, and here’s how we’re going to do it. Chomsky argues for the democratisation of institutions, which I agree with, and that can be part of the solution. But it’s not the institutions that hold the power, it’s capital. Until you seriously restrict the coercive influence of the obscenely wealthy over the culture, all of the trends that we’re seeing at the moment will simply become more ingrained.

Really everything possible, every ounce of energy, ought to go into (a) explaining this in a concerted fashion, and (b) attempting to begin to organise society differently. Everything else is a waste of time. It’s great that people are protesting fracking, but it will happen anyway because powerful and wealthy interests want it to happen. I’m sure people feel very strongly about paedophilia and I can understand why, but immoral and compromised individuals will continue to seek and gain power within such a corrupt system.

Even setting up a television station in order to embezzle money (I’m not 100% convinced this was the reason for it) is a direct product of this system because you’re obliged to keep generating sources of income in order to survive, unless you’ve been fortunate enough to have an incredible success or control a valuable resource.

So for me unless you address this directly then everything else is a waste of time. Yet as far as I can see, most people in the ‘truth movement’, particularly in the United States, actually believe the complete opposite. They are sympathetic to the views of Molyneux and Schiff and AJ and Ron Paul (and I agree with some of the things all of these people say) and hundreds of other people who believe that less government is the answer, and if we had less government the society would suddenly sort itself out. So most people involved have got things completely arse-backwards to begin with. Anything that they encounter which doesn’t espouse this view they tend to call ‘Communist’.

I don’t usually find the time, energy or inclination to write this much about these subjects anymore because I see absolutely no hope whatsoever that the existing trends are going to get anything other than much worse. Honestly sitting there at this point in time pointing out that the government is corrupt is a waste of time. Everyone with half a brain cell already knows this, and those that don't, do not care. There has to be a concerted effort to build a movement to actually change things. These people are going to have to start offering something relevant, otherwise they will end up broke too because there just will not be any money left to support them. There won't be any small businesses left to sponsor AJ, or not enough, and people won't have any disposable income for moneybombs or anything else (not that they do now).

knobmeup wrote:
LoL my suspension has just become a ban lol..... they are reading ..... hahahahaaaaa

knobmeup wrote:

WUB's post there is spot on, couldn't agree more

These mods/admins over on DIF can't have much of a life, they spend all their time reading posts on the DIF and spending time modifying posts or deleting them or banning people and then when they're not doing that they're over here on Sanctum Zone reading threads or over on Truth Zone reading threads. Do they even find time to cook themselves some dinner? do they have time to go for a shit?
They clearly have no lives at all, they've become part of the DIF internet code. They really have become computer programs / agents of the system. They don't even realise it neither which is really sad to be honest. When Icke talks about people have horse blinkers on and he puts his hands either side of his eyes and talks about peoples perspectives being so narrow and closed off, the DIF mods are completely like that, all they see is their precious forum, they're never off it and to them every poster who posts on it is a human being plugged laid asleep in an alcove like on the Matrix films. How do they not see their own prison? how can they not see they have become the machines?
Shocking plain and simple.

I posted that at 11:11am and never realised even what time it was, that says it all for me really. That's all the confirmation I needed.

We obviously became a threat to "the system" and as such we were banned / unplugged from the Matrix. We are now in Zion.