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The People's Voice 07 Jun 2013 22:28 #41

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Kinell, I just noticed the list down the right hand side; £2,500 to visit the studio and meet David.

Bargain.
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THE PEOPLE'S VOICE 07 Jun 2013 23:20 #42

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
.hugorune wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks it would be funny if Anonymous published a list of the financial backers?
I'm not interested in Joe Public but I'm dying to know if there's any money from, shall we say, groups . :)
You can actually see a list of contributors on the crowdfunding page, I think.
Yes you can but a significant number are anonymous so it would be an simple matter to conceal group donations.
US political action committees (PAC's) have been working that method for decades.
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The People's Voice 08 Jun 2013 00:55 #43

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oioioi wrote:
Kinell, I just noticed the list down the right hand side; £2,500 to visit the studio and meet David.

Bargain.


Same amount McCartney changes for people seeing him before the concert doing the sound check.
And people do go for that.
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THE PEOPLE'S VOICE 08 Jun 2013 09:15 #44

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feather wrote:
Yes you can but a significant number are anonymous so it would be an simple matter to conceal group donations.
US political action committees (PAC's) have been working that method for decades.
That's true, but you can't really force contributors to reveal their identity in this instance.
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Same amount McCartney changes for people seeing him before the concert doing the sound check.
And people do go for that.
It's a bit of a weird one, isn't it, because what do you say to someone in that situation? Alright, Paul. Was it good being in the Beatles? It was? That's good. What do I do? I'm a plumber.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 21:50 #45

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I read a live Twitter feed regarding The People's Voice this evening, some good ideas involved, it might be pretty good if they can get it off the ground and sort out the logistics.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:25 #46

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]oioioi wrote:
Kinell, I just noticed the list down the right hand side; £2,500 to visit the studio and meet David.

Bargain.

Come to mine & meet me for a small bag of bud!

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Same amount McCartney changes for people seeing him before the concert doing the sound check.
And people do go for that.

What a money grabbing bastard he is.
Instead of trying to be focussed before a gig like a proper pro, he's lining his bulging pockets & meeting his potential killer.

I hope this People's Voice thing goes well. I won't be donating, so it makes no odds to me really if it ends up being gash.
I can't see what they're going to fill up all the broadcasts with - if it ends up with a load of factually incorrect gubbins it's not going to be any better than regular telly.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:28 #47

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Space Bandit wrote:
]I hope this People's Voice thing goes well. I won't be donating, so it makes no odds to me really if it ends up being gash.
I can't see what they're going to fill up all the broadcasts with - if it ends up with a load of factually incorrect gubbins it's not going to be any better than regular telly.
It was said this evening that they want it to be able to report on events as they're happening, but in a more transparent way than the BBC / Sky, etc. And to provide a platform for journalists that are either sick of the MSM or can't get a break. We'll have to wait and see how it works out.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:36 #48

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Has CV grubbed together the 10K needed for his own show is what I want to know.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:37 #49

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
]I hope this People's Voice thing goes well. I won't be donating, so it makes no odds to me really if it ends up being gash.
I can't see what they're going to fill up all the broadcasts with - if it ends up with a load of factually incorrect gubbins it's not going to be any better than regular telly.
It was said this evening that they want it to be able to report on events as they're happening, but in a more transparent way than the BBC / Sky, etc. And to provide a platform for journalists that are either sick of the MSM or can't get a break. We'll have to wait and see how it works out.

Yeh I saw that on the list of proposals.
It's a good idea in theory... instead of having a load of hacks who only ask the 'right' questions. Stuff like that will surely ensure that the funding is an ongoing campaign though.... similar to Alex Jones. I suppose there is little other option though to keep it going.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:40 #50

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oioioi wrote:
Has CV grubbed together the 10K needed for his own show is what I want to know.
Do you mean Charlie Veitch? I read an article about him in the Daily Telegraph recently.Space Bandit wrote:
Yeh I saw that on the list of proposals.
It's a good idea in theory... instead of having a load of hacks who only ask the 'right' questions. Stuff like that will surely ensure that the funding is an ongoing campaign though.... similar to Alex Jones. I suppose there is little other option though to keep it going.
Yes, this will be an obvious issue. RT get mainstream UK sponsors despite the fact that they're constantly slating the British establishment.
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I did indeed mean Charlie 'king of the anarchists' Veitch. I have no info, just a hunch.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:47 #52

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oioioi wrote:
I did indeed mean Charlie 'king of the anarchists' Veitch. I have no info, just a hunch.
Read about him here:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/north...hanged-his-mind.html
Conspiracy theorists, he says, are often “bullied people. People who maybe didn’t get the girls at school… So they see a lot of rugger bugger types and they’re against anything to do with them. They will side with the devil, as long as the devil is against the West.” It’s impossible to avoid the observation that the person he describes resembles his own schoolboy self. And if his conflation of “rugger buggers” and “the West” is telling, so is his current ideological position.

“I’ve gone full circle in my Right-wing thinking,” he says. “There’s a professional victimhood in conspiracy theorists. There’s a hatred of high achievers.” Veitch is now hoping to set up a film production company and to carve out a new career as a documentary maker. As for his own involvement in the conspiracy movement, Veitch has a simpler theory. When asked what it was in his psychology that made him susceptible, he answers emphatically.

“Ego,” he says. “Ego made me vulnerable.”
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:49 #53

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wake_up_bomb wrote:

It was said this evening that they want it to be able to report on events as they're happening, but in a more transparent way than the BBC / Sky, etc. And to provide a platform for journalists that are either sick of the MSM or can't get a break. We'll have to wait and see how it works out.

This is a great idea and I'd like to see that work. Time will tell.
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“I’ve gone full circle in my Right-wing thinking,” he says. “There’s a professional victimhood in conspiracy theorists. There’s a hatred of high achievers.” Veitch is now hoping to set up a film production company and to carve out a new career as a documentary maker. As for his own involvement in the conspiracy movement, Veitch has a simpler theory. When asked what it was in his psychology that made him susceptible, he answers emphatically.

“Ego,” he says. “Ego made me vulnerable.”

Wow!

There is soooooooooo much said in those sentences that was unintended I can only pity him at this precise moment.
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The People's Voice 12 Jun 2013 22:55 #55

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psketti wrote:
This is a great idea and I'd like to see that work. Time will tell.
According to what was said this evening, they've got some journalists interested who are fed up with the constraints of working within the mainstream media / press. I don't know how that will work out, but they've confirmed the participation of one woman already. Be interesting to see what happens with the rest of it. I have to admit that I'd quite like to be involved, but I definitely don't want to be on TV. If I could make some sort of contribution in a writing capacity then I would.oioioi wrote:
“I’ve gone full circle in my Right-wing thinking,” he says. “There’s a professional victimhood in conspiracy theorists. There’s a hatred of high achievers.” Veitch is now hoping to set up a film production company and to carve out a new career as a documentary maker. As for his own involvement in the conspiracy movement, Veitch has a simpler theory. When asked what it was in his psychology that made him susceptible, he answers emphatically.

“Ego,” he says. “Ego made me vulnerable.”

Wow!

There is soooooooooo much said in those sentences that was unintended I can only pity him at this precise moment.
He certainly assessed his own achilles heel correctly in my estimation.
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The People's Voice 14 Jun 2013 22:37 #56

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Old Ickey bollocks on the telly box, gonna be like the nineteen 80's all over again!

Can't fooking wait, gonna be comedy gold!
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The People's Voice 17 Jun 2013 22:17 #57

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:
I think WUB is right to wish them well.

Why not? They just might make a positive contribution.

Talking of "contribution", the 30 money drive does raise some very good questions as Thoreau has eloquently pointed out.
It does pose questions and the process should be as transparent as possible, but it's very difficult to get things off the ground without funding. And if you don't have funding, you don't get anywhere. I made a contribution to the funding of this film:

www.kickstarter.com/projects/1195082866/...bedrooms-to-billions

Because if people don’t fund it then it won’t get made. When you have corporate control of every major medium then this is what you have to do to compete.

Looks like WUB & mikey are the only people on SZ or TZ i can agree with about this....go figure

I see Icke being Anti-war, Anti-Monarchy, Anti-1% and that's enough for me to think he is "on the good side" as they say.

The little bit of money Icke gets to start the peoples voice is nothing in the grand scheme of things when you think about it.

Even if Icke ends up getting 300k+ that's a good thing and i hope he can have his own UK version of infowars.

People are so critical of what Icke & Jones do wrong they don't give them credit for what they do right...imo
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.... and he's back :P
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...People are so critical of what Icke & Jones do wrong they don't give them credit for what they do right...imo

It might be a natural counter-balance for all the people who are awe-struck by them regardless of what they do wrong. :)
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THE PEOPLE'S VOICE 21 Jun 2013 21:41 #60

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I've been trying to remember the name of that channel on Sky that used to (& maybe still does) broadcast conspiracy / new age stuff - programmes like 'Question Everything', but am having a mental block. Anyone know what I'm talking about?.

Paradigm Shift runs on Freesat. I've watched AJ and a few documentaries. Pic quality is dire though in most instances.
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