electricdreams wrote:
I think that was 3piont5 mocking Elshaper to be honest.

mikey mikey wrote:
earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/bob...ofs-new-world-order/

Sooooooo as TPV has not done any of the things it said it was going to, you know like terrestrial TV, ground breaking shows, live feeds from the streets of London and Los Angeles, asking the questions nobody dares ask and all the rest of they hype last year, what really was their agenda?

To keep as many yoofs as possible under some kind of control? You know let's do the non compliance dance (but really complying himself.)

Was this just a con by a con artist milking people for money or is there something more sinister going on?

I think TPV is a delusion of grandeur!

Icke has never got over the fact he was sacked by the BBC, ie "I'll show the b********, I'll set up my own TV station!"

Instead of starting small and growing, he wanted a fully-formed outfit from the outset.

I don't believe it is a scam.... although I accept I could be proved wrong in the fullness of time. Just incompetence.

I wonder what their plans are now after the abysmal failure of the campaign?

Verlander wrote:
Indeed. And here is where we see the ego at work. I've always considered the possibility that it was a pie in the sky idea coupled with the fall back of at least getting a few months jolly paid for by the hopes of others if it does go norks up.
The man and his cronies are nowt but maggots in my eyes.

The real pity - and has been pointed out hundreds of times by a lot of people - is that the idea was a very good one. Shame really.

I've not had time to listen to it yet but it seems Sharon Gifford has done an interview along with a couple of guys who worked at TPV. It's 2 hours long so I don't have the time just now. Open Your Mind radio.

Interesting...............

hugorune wrote:
The idea was a voice for the people, £400,000 worth of voice, instead DI & sean seem to have got what they want and 'the people' can take it or leave it.

Here is someone belonging to the prople who wants a voice in TPV, can I?

chandrakavi wrote:
No, it's only for the voices of directly created sons of the godhead and their cohorts!

hugorune wrote: I honestly naively thought that they might have done some serious research about how they were going to fund it. Worked out what their potential audience was, done everything possible to minimise costs, worked out how much they needed to raise to meet these costs, got some advertisers on board for day one, etc. I'm not an expert on social media, but their social media set-up is antiquated and rubbish. Why they have set it up this way which guarantees that Ofcom are involved, which gives them the minimum amount of wriggle room with regard to content, which is the most expensive to run, which is basically out-of-date in terms of the basic model, I have no idea.

And I know I've already said this several times, but if you do it this way then you have to be on TV, otherwise it's pointless. You're actually allowing an Internet stream to be monitored by Ofcom; it's just plain daft. It would be more justifiable if you were on TV and reaching a significant audience, then you could attract advertisers. I don't know how much this costs, but if you don't have the budget for that, forget this way of operating.

Edit: according to this thread, it was about £500,000 in 2007

forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=659929

But this suggests it would be £1.7 million:

uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071008110414AAKI59Z

This link suggests that more TV channels close than are launched:

www.information.tv/News/?NewsId=46

These are the kind of questions you need to be asking yourself, not just assuming that you're going to magic money from a money tree.

Babs wrote:
Thanks for this Babs. Listening now. Miles Johnston from 'The Bases Project' has some very interesting stuff to say about TPV, the way its run and DI. He was a volunteer I think. Not very far in yet. For anyone wanting to listen to this - No need to listen to the first 18mins.

Babs wrote:
That was like listening to the cognitive dissonant preach to cognitive dissonant...

It's telling when the most sane, reasonable and considered voice in this two hour buffoonery is that of Sharon Gifford.

Icke's fucking nuts and he shot his ego-maniacal load over everyone who got duped into this TPV arsefest. And I know that last sentence of mine is the official opinion of the BBC.

Do not listen to the above broadcast if you value your time, your sanity and your balls.

King of the Mountain wrote:
They lost me when they said we are all aliens lol.

Yes Sharon Gifford did come across as the most normal person there I have to say though I have wondered about her since her time on here last week, but maybe that was down to emotional overload - catching your man in a cupboard having sex, her shite time on TPV and feeling alone etc and then coming on here and people including myself going hmmmm

The two main things I picked up from this show were "controlled opposition" and that Icky has some kind of Asperger's, first time I have heard this one.

And all those disclaimers at the beginning had me wondering too.

Babs wrote:
I find myself firmly wedged between championing the freedom for everyone to air their opinions in an unmolested fashion, to wanting to swing a mallet into the temple of every idiot who puts his mouth to a microphone. Not only did one of these morons inarticulately convey his own retarded definition of the phrase 'cognitive dissonance', but then, with the help of his equally moronic pals, they went on to actually provided us with the perfect example of exactly what it is!

Can't anyone in this so-called 'Troof Movement' actually get it together? I mean, is it really so difficult? Or are they all ranting, self-aggrandising twats (like what I is)?

Babs wrote:
Did they mean that as some kind of slur? Poor taste if it was.

hugorune wrote:
No no, it was said in a matter of fact way as if everybody knows that Icky is somewhere on the spectrum.

hugorune wrote:
This is something i've observed for a long time. How good ideas are corrupted by charlatans for personal gain.
Which has the effect of blocking any real progression of the good idea.
Green movements.
Worldwide unity.
peace organizations.

All corrupted for the gain of the few at the expense of the many...

Icke. You are in shit company. You shithead.

Do people genuinely think Icke did this for the money?

Verlander wrote:
For the platform the money provides.

What he wants that platform for however is debatable.

Verlander wrote:
I don't think he did it to make a pile of cash, just self promotion.

oioioi wrote:
And a few Super Ts on the way.

Yes, money plus the feeding of his narcissism.

I've literally reached a point where I find him repulsive to watch, because I find him so manipulative and condescending and hypocritical. I absolutely don't believe there's anything genuine about him.