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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 08:24 #5241

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Just tuned in to the tail end of the Richie Allen show :emb: :hide:

He was asking for more donations, saying that 4,000 donated via Indiegogo, but on average 80,000 watch his show. He suggested that those who watch and haven't donated should take a good look at themselves. He also said that if they don't get more money soon the station will be in trouble within days, ('not weeks - days!').

So - looks like the money nearly gone :roll:

I can't find the show in question but I did just listen to a bit of RA on youtube from last night talking about how his next guest was Peter Tatchell :umm: then in reply to something said by Bernie Ecclestone in the papers RA said that 1 in 3 people are gay!! Where does that figure come from??
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 08:26 #5242

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Thanks for the update QS. And to think that those butt kissers over on DIF still believe that a bright future dripping with massive advertising revenue is just around the corner.

How long until DI's next emotionally charged rant with the begging bowl, I wonder?

The man has no shame, so it should be fairly soon. Looks like they have spent the £100,000.00 already then in a few weeks.
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 08:52 #5243

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Thanks for the update QS. And to think that those butt kissers over on DIF still believe that a bright future dripping with massive advertising revenue is just around the corner.

How long until DI's next emotionally charged rant with the begging bowl, I wonder?

The man has no shame, so it should be fairly soon. Looks like they have spent the £100,000.00 already then in a few weeks.

I think that's a safe bet. I've just been looking at the sponsors page on TPV and, no disrespect to the sponsors concerned, but they have barely enough financial clout to cover a week's drinks in a London bar for the TPV crew. Sorry, delete that, by drinks I actually mean "catering".

I then looked at the TPV Advertising page on Facebook. Jamie Icke, bless him, but he hasn't a clue - and practically acknowledged as much in his 17 January post there.

Then you come to the elephant in the room - the programming. It is, shall we say, focused on a limited market. Some of the shows are toe-curlingly embarrassingly awful as well. No one with any real financial clout would want to sully their brand by associating it with TPV. Instead, poor young Jamie can only realistically hope to attract advertisers of equivalent standing to the existing sponsors. He'll only need a few million of them to create a stable platform!!

One final word of advice to Jamie & co, take some grammar lessons and develop some more effective marketing speak than this E-grade effort -
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 09:01 #5244

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What are Richie Allen's credentials, hardly a household name in media.
He said he earns less now to when he was on the radio, well i never heard of him :conf:
Where is all the money going, certainly not on programmes.
Contributors should be asking these questions.
"And I know i'll be seeing you all very soon, when we begin broadcasting here in May
And I'll talk to you then"
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How do they expect to get advertisers when they keep threatening to close within days/weeks?
They claim audience of 2.6 million per month :conf: yet the "popular" regular Richie Allen is only getting 80,000 audience :O

They need £50,000 per moth minimum to operate but only from ethical advertisers and sponsors.

Sky TV took years to build up audience when it launched. BSB went bust. Russia Today (RT) went for a long time before it got real paying adverts.

if TPV continues where will the money come from?
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Re:The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 09:27 #5246

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How do they expect to get advertisers when they keep threatening to close within days/weeks?
They claim audience of 2.6 million per month, :conf yet the "popular" regular Richie Allen is only getting 80,000 audience :O

They need £50,000 per moth minimum to operate but only from ethical advertisers and sponsors.

Sky TV took years to build up audience when it launched. BSB went bust. Russia Today (RT) went for a long time before it got real paying adverts.

if TPV continues where will the money come from?

It should come from the stakeholders in the business, but of course that doesn't seem to have happened and they have gone to the public for donations instead.

To be fair to David, I don't have an issue with the principle of seeking donations from supporters to get this off the ground. It was after all supposed to be a platform for their alternative views. But I do have an issue with continually coming back to be public for more. What financial risk are the stakeholders actually taking? They should share some of the pain, as it were.

Those of us who run businesses in the real world have to put our necks on the line at times, I see no reason why TPV should be any different - particularly when it seems to have morphed into a channel dominated by David and close allies.
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 09:34 #5247

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What are Richie Allen's credentials, hardly a household name in media.
He said he earns less now to when he was on the radio, well i never heard of him :conf:
Where is all the money going, certainly not on programmes.
Contributors should be asking these questions.

they have - it would appear most are banned or threatened should they continue to do so.

TPVs business model from the outset has been that it's 'consumers' 'need' TPV and should therefore pay for it until/if it becomes self sustaining. That is not a very well thought out plan.

The content has either been stuff that is covered in the msm with an 'ickian bias' or is stuff not promulgated by msm because it does not have 'mass appeal'.

All this guff about 'waking people up' translates to 'persuading people to believe in what icke says'

They are also basing their business model on consumption - whether it be of goods/services they deem 'ethical' or not it comes down to suckering people into passively consuming the information they deem important whilst blasting out ads for stuff they think people should buy. It is no different a model than any other media other than the bias the give to certain points of view and subjects.

They appear to be using 'buzzwords' such as transparent, ethical and alternative - all things that people generally wish to see from business in order to suck people into believing they are somehow different and superior to msm - same thing with calling themselves 'the peoples voice'
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 09:42 #5248

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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 10:22 #5249

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Just more 'networking/pyramid' capers is all.

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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 10:46 #5250

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Great posts thoreau and all makes so much sense :thumbup:
I am very new to this outfit and whenever i have looked in all i have experienced is youtube shows relayed on their stream, and these being repeated ad infinitum.
Hardly groundbreaking or original content, and as for that Richie Allen well if that's the best they can offer then they have no chance!
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And I'll talk to you then"
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 10:50 #5251

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Also who warrants wages of approx 50k each month for an internet streaming channel.
Wages that gullible people are apparently giving :chin:
You'd have to be comatosed to not realise this is blatant fraud.
"And I know i'll be seeing you all very soon, when we begin broadcasting here in May
And I'll talk to you then"
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 10:59 #5252

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I wouldn't worry about that inner circle thing. It looks like some snots who think they are important but any of us dirt farmers can join
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 11:58 #5253

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Why the fuck are people still giving miney to this joke is beyond me, i used to think infowars tv was bad but this shit makes AJ's setup look slick and professional.
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 13:30 #5254

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Babs wrote:
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Just tuned in to the tail end of the Richie Allen show :emb: :hide:

He was asking for more donations, saying that 4,000 donated via Indiegogo, but on average 80,000 watch his show. He suggested that those who watch and haven't donated should take a good look at themselves. He also said that if they don't get more money soon the station will be in trouble within days, ('not weeks - days!').

So - looks like the money nearly gone :roll:

I can't find the show in question but I did just listen to a bit of RA on youtube from last night talking about how his next guest was Peter Tatchell :umm: then in reply to something said by Bernie Ecclestone in the papers RA said that 1 in 3 people are gay!! Where does that figure come from??

I watched it on the TPV watch now page in the early hours. Thought it was a repeat, so looked for it on you tube so I could link it but couldn't find it. His little speech came right after he interviewed a lady from USA regarding the slaughter of wild mustangs and how the meat is sold for human consumption, and was right at the end of the program.
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 15:15 #5255

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As I’ve said before about ten times...it’s a bloody stupid business model.

If you want to make money...YOU HAVE TO BE ON TV!!!!!

IF YOU’RE NOT ON TV...FORGET IT!!!!

IS THAT CLEAR? CAN ANYONE INVOLVED WITH TPV ACTUALLY FACE UP TO REALITY?!

You know shitty Eurosport that virtually no-one watches in Britain, that is as I type this showing live equestrian from the Hong Kong Masters and a second-rate darts tournament? That shitty TV channel generates SIXTY MILLION in revenue in the UK. Do you know why? BECAUSE THEY’RE ON FUCKING TV!

You cannot have a TV station that is on NOT ON TV! It’s fucking ridiculous. It is not going to work, it is not going to survive, it is not going to make money, it is not going to be able to compete with TV stations THAT ARE ON TV!

Anyone with half a brain knows this, but additionally it should also be clear from other areas aside from television channels. For example, when it gets round to Christmas, what books do you see dominating the bookshops and advertised all over the place? It’s ‘The Half-Baked World According to Clarkson Part 12’ and Jamie Oliver's 'I've Just Though of Another Range of Recipes that are Brilliant Honest'; ie. PEOPLE WHO ARE ON FUCKING TV!

Television dominates every industry; every commercial industry and company that is even remotely dependent on public money wants to be on TV. Can you imagine Apple coming out with a new iPad and then saying “right, well we’ll only advertise it on the Internet”. It can’t happen; they make incredibly expensive and pretentious adverts like this precisely because they recognise its importance:



You are not going to make enough money to run a remotely functioning television channel from an Internet stream. They will be begging non-stop if they continue the way they are at the moment. If they cannot recognise this then they are bloody stupid.
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 15:29 #5256

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They claim audience of 2.6 million per month :conf: yet the "popular" regular Richie Allen is only getting 80,000 audience :O

I smell bullshit :think:
80,000 imaginary viewers to allen's show, well they'd have to be because you cannot understand the man.
How he got a job anywhere in media is a complete joke :umm:
"And I know i'll be seeing you all very soon, when we begin broadcasting here in May
And I'll talk to you then"
Ever so confident Richie Allen 24 March 2014.
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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 15:39 #5257

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Where has the 4000 people on indiegogo come from ? There was only 2800 who donated.....so it has jumped by 1200 who never actually donated ?

www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-s-voice-must-get-louder

That shows how much of the illusion icke and his rainbow crew are selling....as ONLY 2800 donated in the whole world dave....yet you claim to be waking the world up....that equates to barely 50 people out of the apparent 55 countries you have been who have taken notice and donated.....pop your bubble and take zippy bungle and george with you....as you are far less significant than your narcissistic projection convinces otherwise........

Welcome to TPV :

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The People's Voice 22 Feb 2014 15:52 #5258

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Lunar Sea wrote:
tiger_bloke wrote:
They claim audience of 2.6 million per month :conf: yet the "popular" regular Richie Allen is only getting 80,000 audience :O

I smell bullshit :think:
80,000 imaginary viewers to allen's show, well they'd have to be because you cannot understand the man.
How he got a job anywhere in media is a complete joke :umm:

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I liked the hidden science program. There's a great episode all about lucid dreaming. It was great, really informative and helpful.
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