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The People's Voice 31 Mar 2014 01:40 #6061

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www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271313

£1000 to have dinner with David? What are they thinking? They can't even raise enough money for Indiegogo so they think people are sitting with a spare £1000 in their bank accounts to have dinner with David?


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justoneman wrote:
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crazybeats wrote:
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271313

£1000 to have dinner with David? What are they thinking? They can't even raise enough money for Indiegogo so they think people are sitting with a spare £1000 in their bank accounts to have dinner with David?

Jesus Icke our Lord :facepalm:
thats nothing compared to how much people were ripped off going to Peru

I had dinner with David in September 2010 on the IOW. He ate a lamb shank and we got through two bottles of NZ sauvignon blanc. With three other guests the evening cost me about £200. That's enough, I'd never pay £1000!!!!
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Atlantean2014 wrote:
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Space Bandit wrote:
crazybeats wrote:
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271313

£1000 to have dinner with David? What are they thinking? They can't even raise enough money for Indiegogo so they think people are sitting with a spare £1000 in their bank accounts to have dinner with David?

Jesus Icke our Lord :facepalm:
thats nothing compared to how much people were ripped off going to Peru

I had dinner with David in September 2010 on the IOW. He ate a lamb shank and we got through two bottles of NZ sauvignon blanc. With three other guests the evening cost me about £200. That's enough, I'd never pay £1000!!!!

I thought you were a volunteer at TPV? I didn't realise you had known him for so long. :umm:

I couldn't afford £200 for one meal let alone £1000.
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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And the bloated Icke has the nerve to cry poverty.
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The princely sum of £12988 raised so far, nearly half way through the Indiegogo campaign. The likely total won't even pay for Sean's wedding and honeymoon! :D
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When David took a sip of his drink did he screw his eyes up and go 'ahhhhh good times' before clanging it on the table?
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The peoples voice is shiiite.
Far more could be acheived for far less by far less.

And WTF is with Gareth Icke useing it as his personal promotional tool? :conf:
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Perhaps one day you'll realise that Icke is working for the establishment, he's there to derail the opposition into non action.
He provides cover for the crimes of the establishment,
Every time someone buys/reads a book, reads a blog/post, watches TPV or any other the media involving icke, they are indeed propping him up, not as a person but as a utility. (as I am now)

He leads his alternative flock, this way and that, 'his' TV channel commenced about the same time as Richplanet, Corbert Report and UK Column was taken off of television.

It's got nawt to do with Indiegogo, most of the donations probably come from his own crowd, they simply get most of their money back, I'd be very suspicious if folk turning up who are ex-Icke clan, they're simply pouring fuel onto the fire.

It's a drama, it's a distraction, it's not paedophiles it's shapeshifters, ffs did anyone seriously think that Icke was sincere, he's a layer of establishment,

Here, debate the authenticity of Icke, .........do this.
Look at what's really happening ..... Don't do that... shhhhhhht.

His rhetoric fails to point out that doing the 'Icke thing' is the very same as doing the msm thing.

If some purpose of SZ is to provide an alternative to Icke, why discuss him?
@marina yes I have discussed Icke in other posts, because when other issues arise that are akin to icke it's worth pointing out the comparisons, imo, though these threads constantly focussed on Icke, simply shows that he's being effective.

The best thing to do to disable icke is to ignore him generally, perhaps except the occasional reference when other agents/smokescreens of the state are being discussed.

I can say for instance that I had been following the death of Barnaby Jack, I got annoyed with myself for getting distracted with icke bashing in January and missed the outcome of the autopsy report at the time, I was too busy beating TPV.

I am sorry for being rude generally in some of my previous posts, it's just so annoying to see people being killed, and when I log into SZ the most popular thread is TPV, a thread about a pre recorded repeated internet TV station.

I'm trying to forget about icke, he gets between what's really happening and fantasy/untruth, I got nothing against folk letting off steam when they realise he's not Jesus and come to SZ,
TBH most people that I know, don't even know who he is, he's just a lolly pop man for tptb working as AM.

He gets all the 'theories' and false flag events etc... and presents them in a tidy little package, but it won't get much attention unless a debate can be created to find out whether or not he's a con man.

And here we are, team icke.

The best place for people to find out about icke is DIF.

By the time they come here they ought to already know he's not sincere, this is turning into' Watch TPV and then slag it off, visit TPV you tube channel and slag it off, we already know he's a cunt, what's the point, there will always been some soft headed folk that believe in icke, they won't take any notice of anti icke comments, they'll just think that those comments are negative vibes.
it's not anyone's responsibility to wake these people up, if they can't tell that the world is not run by shape shifters in underground bases, all by themselves, then they won't take any notice of these posts.

it might sound harsh, I suggest leave them to realise for themselves, I also think that it's best leaving Icke to it, give him enough rope etc....

When he's no longer effective he'll disappear, imo TPV was set up to re-represent Edwina's comments etc.... (why else is she there)

That little task has been done the rest is bullshit.

ickes news RE Edwina...

''One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS [Parliamentary Private Secretary].

Now he’s what they call a “noted pederast”, with a liking for young boys. He admitted as much . . . when he became deputy chairman of the party but added: “However, I’m very discreet” — and he must be!

She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either way, it’s a really dumb move. It scares me, as all the Press know, and as we get closer to the election, someone is going to make trouble very close to her indeed.’

Thatcher didn’t know? Are you having a laugh? Clearly everyone knew, including many in the media, and what was that Currie said about Chester MP Morrison? – He admitted as much when he became deputy chairman of the party, but said he was very discreet??''

www.davidicke.com/headlines/75912-thatch...hile-peter-morrison/

The actual story as per Curries book...
“One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS. Now he’s what they call a ‘noted pederast’, with a liking for young boys; he admitted as much to Norman Tebbit when he became deputy chairman of the party but added’ ‘However, I’m very discreet’ – and he must be! She either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either way, it’s a really dumb move. Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison’s (woman) agent, who claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares, me as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to make trouble, very close to her indeed.”

Notice icke did not include some names in his article nor the BBC.

outlawjimmy.com/2013/11/04/how-many-really-knew/

icke is an agent and TPV is a smoke screen, an information filter.

Exposing TPV is part of the ruse, tt's job has been done, it needs to slowly fade away,

It's why they did not want Maloney or Spivey on it, and why Curries words have be re-presented.

Currie had to appear on icke TV so to discredit her reputation thus dilute her allegations.
It's part of his role, when people fuck up, they go meet icke, this gives their persona an element of madness, thus their comments are no longer taken seriously.
The expenses issue was of course another con, there's no expenses, no need to donate, no need to continue, it's done, dusted, finished.

I guess the repeated shows will stay on the backburner until another sex scandal needs to be covered up.
btw it's almost the same reason why only Savile & Heath are permitted to be discussed as a paedophiles on DIF, after all they're dead.

It's all a huge scam, nothing to do with coning the public out of money, that's merely a way of collapsing the ruse until again needed.

So by slagging off/ exposing icke, really that's a help for him, that's why it's best to take no notice of icke, why prop up the pseudo persona of a potential con man/guru thingy, so that that effect can be used to dilute the disclosures of those who run the country.

The entire 'sheeple' things is a socially constructed set of thoughts,

Remember the first show. Miss Whiplash, well now Miss Whiplash could well be seen as Miss Bonkers because she's been on icke tv, that's what it's all about, most folk that have heard of icke think he's mad, so the tptb parade those who disclose on Icke tv, thus they too must be a bit mad.

So the more mad and coning icke is made out to be the better it suits them.

''oh right yeah she was on icke tv..... erm ain't that the guy who says the queen is a lizard woman.''

''yeah he's a con man, of well she must be fucking mad too then''.
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The People's Voice 31 Mar 2014 11:50 #6069

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Babs wrote:
Atlantean2014 wrote:
justoneman wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
crazybeats wrote:
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271313

£1000 to have dinner with David? What are they thinking? They can't even raise enough money for Indiegogo so they think people are sitting with a spare £1000 in their bank accounts to have dinner with David?

Jesus Icke our Lord :facepalm:
thats nothing compared to how much people were ripped off going to Peru

I had dinner with David in September 2010 on the IOW. He ate a lamb shank and we got through two bottles of NZ sauvignon blanc. With three other guests the evening cost me about £200. That's enough, I'd never pay £1000!!!!

I thought you were a volunteer at TPV? I didn't realise you had known him for so long. :umm:

I couldn't afford £200 for one meal let alone £1000.
I think that man has had far too many free dinners at our expense,time for him to payback.Maybe a giant free weekend BBQ on the IOW.If he makes it a freebie I am even prepared to listen to Icke Jnr sing and flog a few copies of his latest offerings.I just don't feel like there is ever any goodwill flowing back our way.Its just one big leech-like money grab whilst being hit over the head and lectured by Marjorie Dawes himself.
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The People's Voice 31 Mar 2014 11:57 #6070

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Jiggly Bitz. wrote:
Babs wrote:
Atlantean2014 wrote:
justoneman wrote:
Space Bandit wrote:
crazybeats wrote:
www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=271313

£1000 to have dinner with David? What are they thinking? They can't even raise enough money for Indiegogo so they think people are sitting with a spare £1000 in their bank accounts to have dinner with David?

Jesus Icke our Lord :facepalm:
thats nothing compared to how much people were ripped off going to Peru

I had dinner with David in September 2010 on the IOW. He ate a lamb shank and we got through two bottles of NZ sauvignon blanc. With three other guests the evening cost me about £200. That's enough, I'd never pay £1000!!!!

I thought you were a volunteer at TPV? I didn't realise you had known him for so long. :umm:

I couldn't afford £200 for one meal let alone £1000.
I think that man has had far too many free dinners at our expense,time for him to payback.Maybe a giant free weekend BBQ on the IOW.If he makes it a freebie I am even prepared to listen to Icke Jnr sing and flog a few copies of his latest offerings.I just don't feel like there is ever any goodwill flowing back our way.Its just one big leech-like money grab whilst being hit over the head and lectured by Marjorie Dawes himself.

:chuckle:
He dislikes his own followers for sure.

I'd just like to point out to Blue Tackler that not everybody who frequented the Icke forum was/is a follower of Icke.
I used it for the alternative views and news more than anything else.
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The People's Voice 31 Mar 2014 12:02 #6071

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scrappydoo says..

I'd just like to point out to Blue Tackler that not everybody who frequented the Icke forum was/is a follower of Icke.
I used it for the alternative views and news more than anything else

Yeah I know people do that. that's what I did, and why I have no real grudge as I never believed him anyhow.
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Perhaps one day you'll realise that Icke is working for the establishment, he's there to derail the opposition into non action.
He provides cover for the crimes of the establishment,
Every time someone buys/reads a book, reads a blog/post, watches TPV or any other the media involving icke, they are indeed propping him up, not as a person but as a utility. (as I am now)

He leads his alternative flock, this way and that, 'his' TV channel commenced about the same time as Richplanet, Corbert Report and UK Column was taken off of television.

It's got nawt to do with Indiegogo, most of the donations probably come from his own crowd, they simply get most of their money back, I'd be very suspicious if folk turning up who are ex-Icke clan, they're simply pouring fuel onto the fire.

It's a drama, it's a distraction, it's not paedophiles it's shapeshifters, ffs did anyone seriously think that Icke was sincere, he's a layer of establishment,

Here, debate the authenticity of Icke, .........do this.
Look at what's really happening ..... Don't do that... shhhhhhht.

His rhetoric fails to point out that doing the 'Icke thing' is the very same as doing the msm thing.

If some purpose of SZ is to provide an alternative to Icke, why discuss him?
@marina yes I have discussed Icke in other posts, because when other issues arise that are akin to icke it's worth pointing out the comparisons, imo, though these threads constantly focussed on Icke, simply shows that he's being effective.

The best thing to do to disable icke is to ignore him generally, perhaps except the occasional reference when other agents/smokescreens of the state are being discussed.

I can say for instance that I had been following the death of Barnaby Jack, I got annoyed with myself for getting distracted with icke bashing in January and missed the outcome of the autopsy report at the time, I was too busy beating TPV.

I am sorry for being rude generally in some of my previous posts, it's just so annoying to see people being killed, and when I log into SZ the most popular thread is TPV, a thread about a pre recorded repeated internet TV station.

I'm trying to forget about icke, he gets between what's really happening and fantasy/untruth, I got nothing against folk letting off steam when they realise he's not Jesus and come to SZ,
TBH most people that I know, don't even know who he is, he's just a lolly pop man for tptb working as AM.

He gets all the 'theories' and false flag events etc... and presents them in a tidy little package, but it won't get much attention unless a debate can be created to find out whether or not he's a con man.

And here we are, team icke.

The best place for people to find out about icke is DIF.

By the time they come here they ought to already know he's not sincere, this is turning into' Watch TPV and then slag it off, visit TPV you tube channel and slag it off, we already know he's a cunt, what's the point, there will always been some soft headed folk that believe in icke, they won't take any notice of anti icke comments, they'll just think that those comments are negative vibes.
it's not anyone's responsibility to wake these people up, if they can't tell that the world is not run by shape shifters in underground bases, all by themselves, then they won't take any notice of these posts.

it might sound harsh, I suggest leave them to realise for themselves, I also think that it's best leaving Icke to it, give him enough rope etc....

When he's no longer effective he'll disappear, imo TPV was set up to re-represent Edwina's comments etc.... (why else is she there)

That little task has been done the rest is bullshit.

ickes news RE Edwina...

''One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS [Parliamentary Private Secretary].

Now he’s what they call a “noted pederast”, with a liking for young boys. He admitted as much . . . when he became deputy chairman of the party but added: “However, I’m very discreet” — and he must be!

She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either way, it’s a really dumb move. It scares me, as all the Press know, and as we get closer to the election, someone is going to make trouble very close to her indeed.’

Thatcher didn’t know? Are you having a laugh? Clearly everyone knew, including many in the media, and what was that Currie said about Chester MP Morrison? – He admitted as much when he became deputy chairman of the party, but said he was very discreet??''

www.davidicke.com/headlines/75912-thatch...hile-peter-morrison/

The actual story as per Curries book...
“One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM’s PPS. Now he’s what they call a ‘noted pederast’, with a liking for young boys; he admitted as much to Norman Tebbit when he became deputy chairman of the party but added’ ‘However, I’m very discreet’ – and he must be! She either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn’t; either way, it’s a really dumb move. Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison’s (woman) agent, who claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares, me as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to make trouble, very close to her indeed.”

Notice icke did not include some names in his article nor the BBC.

outlawjimmy.com/2013/11/04/how-many-really-knew/

icke is an agent and TPV is a smoke screen, an information filter.

Exposing TPV is part of the ruse, tt's job has been done, it needs to slowly fade away,

It's why they did not want Maloney or Spivey on it, and why Curries words have be re-presented.

Currie had to appear on icke TV so to discredit her reputation thus dilute her allegations.
It's part of his role, when people fuck up, they go meet icke, this gives their persona an element of madness, thus their comments are no longer taken seriously.
The expenses issue was of course another con, there's no expenses, no need to donate, no need to continue, it's done, dusted, finished.

I guess the repeated shows will stay on the backburner until another sex scandal needs to be covered up.
btw it's almost the same reason why only Savile & Heath are permitted to be discussed as a paedophiles on DIF, after all they're dead.

It's all a huge scam, nothing to do with coning the public out of money, that's merely a way of collapsing the ruse until again needed.

So by slagging off/ exposing icke, really that's a help for him, that's why it's best to take no notice of icke, why prop up the pseudo persona of a potential con man/guru thingy, so that that effect can be used to dilute the disclosures of those who run the country.

The entire 'sheeple' things is a socially constructed set of thoughts,

Remember the first show. Miss Whiplash, well now Miss Whiplash could well be seen as Miss Bonkers because she's been on icke tv, that's what it's all about, most folk that have heard of icke think he's mad, so the tptb parade those who disclose on Icke tv, thus they too must be a bit mad.

So the more mad and coning icke is made out to be the better it suits them.

''oh right yeah she was on icke tv..... erm ain't that the guy who says the queen is a lizard woman.''

''yeah he's a con man, of well she must be fucking mad too then''.
You covered a lot of ground there,some interesting points made. :chin:
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TVP Statement of Transparency

When we decided upon a legal structure through which to operate TPV we had to balance the need for transparency against cost and regulation.

After taking advice we decided to incorporate Peoples Voice Broadcasting Limited as a private limited company. Principally because we did not wish to burden TPV with the increased regulatory cost and operational restrictions that apply to Charities and Community Interest Companies (CIC).

However, transparency is important to us and we are happy to give the following undertakings:

1) That no shareholder of TPV will ever take a dividend from the company.

2) We will voluntarily publish quarterly management accounts on our website, these will be reviewed by our external Chartered Accountants. Our next quarter-end will be 31st January and we aim to publish figures within two months of each quarter end.

3) As a small company we are only required to file abbreviated accounts at Companies House, however we voluntarily file full statutory accounts.

4) As a small company we are not required by law to have our accounts audited and this is helpful because it reduces our costs, an annual audit would cost in the region of £12,000 plus VAT. However, our statutory accounts will be prepared by our external Chartered Accountants and as such will carry an Accountant’s report in the standard ICAEW format.

5) Our first statutory period-end is 31st October 2014 and then annually thereafter. We will publish our full statutory accounts on our website by 31st January each year, just four months after each year-end. This is much sooner than the statutory filing requirement of nine months following each year-end.

6) We will voluntarily hold an annual “stakeholders” meeting, in London, within five months of our statutory period end, where we will be happy to answer questions from our sponsors, employees, volunteers and donors. We will ask a representative from our external Chartered Accountants to attend that meeting. We envisage that attendance at the meeting will be via a pre-booked ticket, sold at a small charge to cover costs, such as room hire. The precise format of the meeting will depend upon the number wanting to attend.

7) Our statutory accounts will voluntarily disclose details of any remuneration paid to any shareholder or director, or to any family member of a shareholder or director.

8) Our statutory accounts will voluntarily include a note showing the number of employees and sub-contractors paid in £10,000 (annualised) bands. We will not be disclosing individual names as we consider that would be an invasion of personal privacy.

Reposted the above just to remind everyone. Its the end of March & we haven't had the first Quarterly Management Accounts as thier statement said that they aimed to do. Wonder how much longer we will have to wait? Not that I expect they will reveal much, but I am very interested in wether they will keep to thier promises re: Accounts and transparency.
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TVP Statement of Transparency

When we decided upon a legal structure through which to operate TPV we had to balance the need for transparency against cost and regulation.

After taking advice we decided to incorporate Peoples Voice Broadcasting Limited as a private limited company. Principally because we did not wish to burden TPV with the increased regulatory cost and operational restrictions that apply to Charities and Community Interest Companies (CIC).

However, transparency is important to us and we are happy to give the following undertakings:

1) That no shareholder of TPV will ever take a dividend from the company.

2) We will voluntarily publish quarterly management accounts on our website, these will be reviewed by our external Chartered Accountants. Our next quarter-end will be 31st January and we aim to publish figures within two months of each quarter end.

3) As a small company we are only required to file abbreviated accounts at Companies House, however we voluntarily file full statutory accounts.

4) As a small company we are not required by law to have our accounts audited and this is helpful because it reduces our costs, an annual audit would cost in the region of £12,000 plus VAT. However, our statutory accounts will be prepared by our external Chartered Accountants and as such will carry an Accountant’s report in the standard ICAEW format.

5) Our first statutory period-end is 31st October 2014 and then annually thereafter. We will publish our full statutory accounts on our website by 31st January each year, just four months after each year-end. This is much sooner than the statutory filing requirement of nine months following each year-end.

6) We will voluntarily hold an annual “stakeholders” meeting, in London, within five months of our statutory period end, where we will be happy to answer questions from our sponsors, employees, volunteers and donors. We will ask a representative from our external Chartered Accountants to attend that meeting. We envisage that attendance at the meeting will be via a pre-booked ticket, sold at a small charge to cover costs, such as room hire. The precise format of the meeting will depend upon the number wanting to attend.

7) Our statutory accounts will voluntarily disclose details of any remuneration paid to any shareholder or director, or to any family member of a shareholder or director.

8) Our statutory accounts will voluntarily include a note showing the number of employees and sub-contractors paid in £10,000 (annualised) bands. We will not be disclosing individual names as we consider that would be an invasion of personal privacy.

Reposted the above just to remind everyone. Its the end of March & we haven't had the first Quarterly Management Accounts as thier statement said that they aimed to do. Wonder how much longer we will have to wait? Not that I expect they will reveal much, but I am very interested in wether they will keep to thier promises re: Accounts and transparency.
If they fail to materialise and fall at the first fence then the Icke pantomime horse must surely be judged lame and sent to the glue factory by his DIF followers and financial contributors :chin: :dunno:
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The People's Voice 31 Mar 2014 12:51 #6075

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You made a lot of good points up there, blue but can i point out one thing.
As i understand it the sz was set up as an alternative to the icke forum, not icke himself.
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You made a lot of good points up there, blue but can i point out one thing.
As i understand it the sz was set up as an alternative to the icke forum, not icke himself.

Yes I take that on board dubs, but alternative means instead of, not as well as. :gleek:

For example an alternative music channel plays alternative music from the main, it just plays the music, it don't spend time dissecting or criticising the main, as then it's not alternative but more of a critic.

Should we not be using this alternative to visit the same topics without the icke influence, rather than mulling over icke in a one sided opposing view to DIF.

I think what's happened dubs is that alternative has been confused with opposing, so rather that there is DIF or alternatively SZ, it's more like SZ is in opposition to DI, I don't think we need to be as much opposing him than ignoring him.

I don't think they discuss SZ, ( I know it's not allowed) but I rather think they do their own thing, see things from DIF view point (not all I know).
We don't follow DIF viewpoint but it looks like we're a little kid sticking out it's tongue at the big kid, can't let it go, perhaps the time has come when SZ stood on it's own two feet and forgot all about DI, it really makes it look like SZ is relying on DI for material to discuss.
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This thread is about TPV and the shambles that it is. David has good points. The stuff about the moon, he's right, it shouldn't be where it is. All the Illuminati symbolism and phrases they use and all the stuff to do with Venus and that, he's got a point, they do all those things and many others talked about that stuff long before him. The stuff with the reptile aliens, it might not be shapeshifting but there are people talked about seeing reptile looking people and the whole alien agenda thing, that is a subject you could spend your whole life, too many credible people have came out about that and are we in contact with ETs? Most definitely we are. There's all these subjects that are actually valid and do deserve looking into. The answer to all those things might not be what David or others say but they're on the right path and the truth is they don't really know nor do we. Is there whistleblowers that have spoke the truth? Yes. Are there people right now who know the truth? Yes.

I think people's ideas about TPV are varied. For some it will about the aliens and bringing the truth out finally that we are not alone and have never been alone. For others it's very human, it's very physical and black and white and it's about politics and government and bringing them down, for others it's just about having a voice and giving their opinions. I think too many sat back and expected David to it all himself and let others volunteer and do all the labouring and the free volunteer work and they would just sit back at home and watch for free, I think others really believed that they could volunteer and that it would be a team effort and real work was going to be done in bringing the truth out about many things and I don't think either side won. It should be a People's Voice. It should be down to people, not one man trying to gather a group of people together to make a movement happen and of course, TPV was never intended to be anything like that. It's just a big money making scam. It should be down to us to do it on our own. Infact we should have probably down this 20 years ago and should have been doing it on our own all along because it can be done. In many ways the world is the way it is because we allow it and when you understand what that means, you can't really get too angry with David or anyone else promoting freedom and liberty.

Think about it. How many of you would actually for free, go and do the work that needed to be done? How many of you are that bothered? Many people will bang on and on about what needs to be done and this is wrong and that's right and this could have been done better but they're not willing to do anything themselves. That's why things are the way they are. The truth is millions want to see a better world but very few actually want to leave their homes and actually do any real work in making that happen. It's a waste really. If you followed David Icke for 20 years and only in the last year or so got banned from his forum or woke up to what he is really like that's 20 years gone. David wont be here in 20 years, some of you wont either so that's........that's a whole life wasted. You know about the satanists, paedophiles and a whole ton of other stuff and done nothing. And in 20 years I'll be 20 years older and wont have long left so I'll be in the same boat unless I do something. Just another lifetime where you could have made a difference but didn't and who knows what life will be like in 20 years, probably a whole lot worse than it is now. But that's human history right there. That's why you can go back thousands of years and see so many horrible things that have happened to people and to countries and the reason it happened was because the large majority did nothing and the small minority that tried to do something got trampled on. It's just the way we are. It's how we've always been. It's the same with TPV, you see the hundreds of thousands of pounds getting wasted, you see smiling staff getting paid well, you see Sean and his wedding even though he's supposed to be on the breadline, you know you're getting taken for a ride. You know they're laughing at you and taking money off people but what do you do? You do what we've done for thousands of years. Nothing.
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It's strange how ickonic.co.uk and ickonicads.co.uk haven't been registered yet. Oh well, you snooze you lose. Both websites now redirect straight to this thread.

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It's strange how ickonic.co.uk and ickonicads.co.uk haven't been registered yet. Oh well, you snooze you lose. Both websites now redirect straight to this thread.

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It's strange how ickonic.co.uk and ickonicads.co.uk haven't been registered yet. Oh well, you snooze you lose. Both websites now redirect straight to this thread.
Comrade Icke will not be a happy sausage. :umm: :drevil:
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