Don't know if this has been posted here before, but it's a quite interesting expose of the roots of DI's beliefs -

Icke Debunked

Is this that gorilla99 crap again ?

andyh wrote:
Er no its not........Its Chris White, I think he was a Mod on DIF long time ago

Micklar wrote:
This doc is well worth the time spent watching it. Not only is basically every similarity between Icke's work and thoesophy meticulously exposed there are also many clips of Icke talking. Needless to say he comes across as an absolute berk. Hear him talk about his conversations with beings from the other side and read his blather about the fictional photon belt.

The most telling thing from the documentary is that Icke basically repeated Alice Bailey's crap about the seven rays, talking to so-called ascended masters and other theosophical/luciferian material.

It is interesting because rather than try and explain why it is that Icke's material is so similar to theosophy/luciferianism, some people would rather attack the person who spotted the similarities. The person who made this sober, thorough and fascinating documentary is a Christian, so that must make it all lies, right?

My personal favourite bit of damning evidence against The Son of Man is his book cover for I Am Me I am Free. The image shows rays of light coming from the sun and then shooting out of Icke's hands in rainbow colours. There is also 3 stylised sixes surrounding a naked (ick) Icke and also a little stylised snake beneath him.

Add to that the times he has been filmed giving and receiving masonic handshakes and Icke begins to look very fishy indeed. No point in having controlled opposition if they aren't very popular, right conspiracy fans?

Anyway. Icke is a fucking luciferian as far as I'm concerned, and too many people are blindly following him.

Please watch the documentary. Find out for yourself exactly why it is banned on the pathetic joke that is DIF.

CW believes a lot of stuff that I consider to be farcical. I wouldn't waste my time debunking it:

conspiracyclothes.com/nowheretorun/belie...sthash.8CaEnKza.dpbs

Do you have an opinion on the vid you posted, Micklar, since some of us are on phones & with limited time - your observations might enable folk to judge if it's worth coming back to to view.

Hi Gilly

Have to admit I'm on a phone too at the moment so forgive me if I'm brief.

I was one of the the few who saw DI in the very early days and I was fascinated at the time. Looking back I now realise that my belief in his message was more a reflection of my own desire for change - unwise as it blinded me to many things.

However, I remained very into the Icke message until about two or three years ago when I began questioning quite a few things, doing my own research (as he always encourages), meditating and generally taking a proper grip on my life, rather than putting too much faith in others. At that point the gaps in his theories and dot joining became very apparent. By the time it got to the latest lunacy about the moon being a space ship controlled by fourth dimensional reptilians on Saturn (well, that sort of thing, you get my drift) I stopped buying his stuff, attending his lectures and loads of material got boxed up. I even feel embarrassed for pushing his ideas onto other people in the past.

Various info concerning his views and research has since come to me, almost exclusively not very helpful. I then saw the link to this video, watched it and found myself wholeheartedly agreeing.

90+% of DI's material is a regurgitation of other work, much of it highly highly dubious. This video reveals how his core beliefs are basically Alice Bailey and theosophy in repackaged form.

His reptilian stuff is very very badly researched, in my view, and much of the recent material is borderline insane. Sorry if I come across as a DI hater, I'm not and he must live his life as he thinks fit. I'm more annoyed with myself really for spending 20+ years thinking he was onto something and I I turn was moving in the right direction only to realise that it was the proverbial garden path and I'd handed over quite a lot of money (books, DVDs, lectures, subscriptions) to get there. I'm also annoyed with myself for at times offending people close to me.

Anyway, I digress. In my view the video helpfully explains some of the many reasons why DI is not exposing the true nature of reality but using his considerable gift for presentation (and he is great at that) to disseminate the (often discredited) messages of others.

Just my view though.

Black Cloud wrote:
Almost as mad as Icke tbh with all the religio blx that and making a pathetic attempt at TVP too, he'll prolly say vote BNP next

wake_up_bomb wrote:
^ This and it more than likely is white himself

andyh wrote: I don't want to be accused of prejudice, but I just won't pay attention to anyone that says this:

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Like I said, religio bullshit, just like Icke only a different bullshit belief set

I agree on the religion part but I don't think shooting the messenger affects his message.

Micklar wrote: Sorry, I don't mean to be rude having a go at the person who made that video, and basically ruining your thread!

But it's extremely difficult for me to take Chris White seriously when he says "this person's beliefs are baseless" considering he has completely baseless beliefs of his own. He literally believes we're all going to get raptured. I'm sure he wouldn't like it if you sat there and 'debunked' his assertion that the Bible doesn't contradict itself!

The Rapture theology has been fairly refuted by mainstream Christianity. It tends to be the province of fundamentalist Christians. the same fundies that have been instrumental in the support of the wingnuts, corporate thieves, warmongers, American supremacists and neocons.

What is more the theology is not only misanthropic and uncharitable, it is also runs counter to the teachings of Christ and is scripturally unsound.

In fact, IMHO, it runs counter to the Golden Rule and enthusiasm for the death, destruction and torment it promises is utterly unchristian.

And I am a Christian.

But I suppose that is off-topic. Suffice to say that those propagating this Doom-for-you-lot-and-Heaven-for-my-lot need debunking much more than some clapped out re-hash of New Age Theosophy.

andyh wrote:
www.cracked.com/funny-6524-gorilla199/

Gilly wrote:
And Icke debunks himself quite well without anyone else's help actually

wake_up_bomb wrote:
I understand.

I'm just posting a video which I think hits the spot in many respects re DI. I've picked up similar information from many other sources though.

Wait till he calls you a fucking wanker and gets his bitch to come throw abuse at you. Then you really get he aint what he says he is...

Black Cloud wrote:


Must be a bitch to land them things on such a sharp point, the Tares has good skills.

Black Cloud wrote:
https://threatpost.com/cracked-com-serving-malware-in-drive-by-downloads
Just in case folks are unaware.
Cracked.com has been reported to be infected by a Java drive-by malware virus, which it seems they have been/perhaps still are dragging their arses to fix.

I didn't click the link, (I have Java uninstalled but if they're that slack wtf else might be lurking there?)

Just saying.