I did wonder for quite some time now if David Icke is in the agenda or in the Illuminati himself. Everytime I tried to google it it never came up much more than what David have said about the bloodlines and so forth so I wonder if there is anyone here that has more knowledge about the subject?

In this worls people just don't become famous like that. And David Icke became very famous around the world. There must be some kind of force behind all that I belive. Perhaps those that control this world today realized that people was starting to wake up so they needed a weapon to keep mankind at bay and David Icke came along after that.

Sorry for by bad english, english is not my native language.

Annajn wrote:
I don't know but I trust my gut and my gut doesn't trust Icke.

If you get a chance watch a video on youtube called David Icke debunked, it's mostly from a Christian perspective but the guy makes lots of excellent points in that film.
The most telling thing about Icke is the things he used to say that he is very careful not to talk about these days.

channeling entities, repeating Bailey's theosophist beliefs etc.
the power of the colour turquoise. lol

I don't claim to know the answer to that, Annajn, but plenty of people have expressed the opinion that he's controlled opposition. Highish profile & speaks sufficient truth (largely pinched from other researchers without giving them due credit) to attract an audience, combined with enough silliness to bring ridicule to the whole field of 'conspiracy theory'.

My own opinion is he's just an opportunist, but who knows?

Your English is excellent, btw, to say it's not your first language.

martg wrote:

psketti wrote:
respect ma authority

Annajn wrote:
I think its far less sinister and intricate than that. He's not part of an elite master plan, he just happens to fit it so is left to do as he does.

I've come to realise that David Icke is nothing more than a con man. He knows the bit of charisma he has is enough for some to listen to him and he makes his followers feel part of something greater and most of them respond to that. He knows how to play the game, and Icke is not a revolutionary free thinker, he's a brand.

He uses NLP techniques and hypono-double-speak and even though I could spot it, I still fell for it. He words common sense realisations to form sentences that sound profound and enlightened. I can't think of any of his great lines right now, but take money as energy. He says if you give your money, you're really giving your energy and you should only give your energy to those who deserve it. Well, really, that's bloody obvious. Money isn't really an energy field of course, but it does represent your hard work, and some would prefer to buy off one company than another for their own reasons, be it price or quality.

Another is his computer analogies. He says that his "body computer" works just like a computer and what do we say when our computers don't work properly, we say it has a virus. What he's doing here is confusing something similar to causation and correlation. Of course we say our computer's have viruses, because we've humanised them and developed systems based on biology (not the other way around as he claims). Its not the body computer, when we developed the computer we based our explanations on things that we could understand like our body.

Do you know what I mean?

He explains many things arse about face to make them seem prolific and enlightened and we tend to not realise because of his showmanship and NLP. To further his income, he interweaves the very plausable, fully or near -provable works of others in to his own or other's much more obscure theories to give them credibility among his own herd. TPTB let him carry on, because he discredits everyone else by doing this, and is quite happy to do so as he earns a lot of money doing it.

Watch his wembley video, and really think and analyse what he's saying.

He's part of the plan, but not intentionally.

Re Bloodlines. Have a sniff around in here freemasonry.bcy.ca/history/bavarian_illuminati/das_verb.html

NLP = Lesser Magic.

Lesser Magic


“Non-ritual or manipulative magic, sometimes called "LESSER MAGIC", consists of the wile and guile obtained through various devices and contrived situations, which when utilized, can create 'change, in accordance with one's will'.”

"The Satanic Bible"
Anton LaVey (1969)
Book of Belial: 1

Subtle body language & subconscious communication (i.e., reading 'in between the lines' when a person speaks) are forms of Lesser Magic. Day to day behaviour or specific roles you slip into are forms of lesser magic... the art of controlling people in the most subtle ways. In that much, it isn't a form of supernatural magic, but everyday psychology, even if some develop an uncommon capability in it.

I did google now and I came to the former white hat blog. He is not the most trust worthy person but what he says about David Icke here sounds closer to the truth that Icke do work for the agenda:

formerwhitehat.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/...child-banking-cabal/

formerwhitehat.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/david-ickes-niece/

There may be something to it.

After all, Ventura talks shite, Alex Jones talks shite and Icke talks shite and they keep on talking shite while dissing anyone who doesn't toe the wingnut line (for example the venus project) and making lots of money out of it perpetually.

They pay little or no attention to solid mainstream journalists like Pilger or Palast and cannot ever come up with anything productive to actually do about the situation.

Alex Jones has even described cointelpro and then ruined the texas gun rally with classic cointelpro lol...
Ventura has accused Icke of making money out of it (LMFAO!) talk about kettle,black and all that...
Icke for his part has stayed away from discussing alternate monetary systems and instead pretended to be not a racist and not surprising he attracted a large crowd of 'not a nazi' posters on his forum too...who ofc sean didn't ban until the anti crowd like myself left and DIF ended up looking like stormfront 2.0.

WUB has described how useless the whole 911/reptilian/moon/aliens stuff all is. Its completely pointless and a distraction from core issues that have caused pretty much everything including govt secrecy in the first place.

The prime number 1 issue facing humanity is the monetary system. The establishment would rather people look at each other, at the unemployed, at immigrants, at muslims, at the middle east, at global warming, at football.

The FR monetary system is the one thing almost every single human being on this planet is stuck with and it drives every single issue mentioned above and then 10,000 other issues that could be easily solved if world leaders truly wanted to, if they were actually what they purport to be.

Everything always 'costs' too much, yet we have enough resources to power the planet for thousands of years, thorium reactors, geothermal power, millions of acres of empty land left to grass all left unused because its not 'profitable'.

Its sick tbh, its criminal. TPTB are stealing our future and our childrens future and their childrens future just so they can piss about in yachts in the caymans for most of the year and work on their suntan while chatting about which ferrari to buy next ffs. All the while they contribute nothing and steal everything and they want this silly situation to continue forever.

I think it would be fair to say that Icke is dangerous. He sweeps up folk that are starting to suspect that we are all being screwed deliberately, gives them some info (which he nicks from others) and then milks them. He never offers any answers/solutions. Well, save the non comply dance. Why would he? If folk got to solutions, they wouldn't give him the means to live his lifestyle.
Rather than empowering folk, he stunts their ability to actually effect change. He does this with all the utter bullshit he speaks/writes. He corals folk into a pen where they think they can effect real change by realising that infinite love is the only reality and body compewders download shizzle expidentially.
Sometimes the loving thing to do, is burn down seats of government, remove privileges from the over privileged by force if necessary and bang up mega criminals.
It doesn't matter if he is in on it or not. All that matters is that he leads folk down a blind alley and then sucks their money/energy. Rendering them incapable of rising up like Lions...

andyh wrote:
He understands even less about that than even I do ....so Sean takes care of that for him

I love that vid, martg. There are some fantastic clips of Icke in full flow. My favourite is where he is wobbling his hands around talking about vibrational cycles. Hilarious. And people actually fall for this shit? The other good clip shows ex BBC employee, David Icke, talking about black holes sending energy to the sun so that us bods on earth are decoding different photon information. Brilliant. Cheers David. That really makes sense.

Here's the trick. Icke has to talk about photon energy flying out of the sun because otherwise he would have to say, "Worship Lucifer", which is what this cunt really wants us to do. That is why there is no opposition on DIF. That is why vids like Icke Debunked is banned on DIF. Any criticism of Icke on DIF is labelled trolling. People get all indignant about DIF, and how poor the mods are as if DIF can be reformed, but understand, the mods have no choice. It is their job to stifle debate about David Icke. They can't have people finding out that they have been fooled again. The elite have changed clothes numerous times when they have got found out before.

The awakening sounds to me like a load of gullible fuckwits opening the door to a crowd of non-physical entities waiting in the wings, not because our lives would benefit, but because theirs would. It is what they have wanted all along.

Spirits belong in the spirit world, but of course they want to affect things here. That's where tools like David Icke come in. Icke doesn't even know the name of the entity or entities that are pushing him from place to place. Icke Debunked highlights this fact well.

I know where you're coming from, Grakus, but I'm not having it that they're gullible fuckwits.

People need time to draw their own conclusions, and quite often, it takes a bit to see the inaccuracies, because you can be swept along by sensible bits, combined with the sense of camaraderie that comes from being part of the group - and bear in mind that there are some damned good posters over there (always has been).

Gilly wrote:
True, its been a long time now, certainly long enough to see whats going on.

My view of icke is that he was a normal enough lad who showed some promise at football, had his career cut short when he developed arthritis but had a 'pretty' enough face to put on tv. His massive drug induced meltdown saw him make a tit of himself and from the moment he was ridiculed so badly he has had a chip on his shoulder and has wanted to get back the respect and adulation he felt he had in his younger days.

I suspect that because he is generally regarded as somewhat of a laughing stock and because his core beliefs are so easy to ridicule he holds no threat whatsoever to the 'elite' rather he is left to spout whatever nonsense he wants to because he is majoritively irrelevant and easy to write off as a nutcase.

That he occasionally stumbles upon things that are relevant during his 'dot connecting' is pure coincidence - That he attaches himself to already populist theories and causes usually takes the form of self aggrandizement and a 'told you so' attitude that is utterly undeserved. As usually he hasn't someone else has - often strangely enough the mainstream media who then move onto the next story.

If poulton was the 'fly on an elephants back' he is the trace remnants of shit on the feet of said fly.

His fame is the result of ridicule rather than respect and much exaggerated imho. I would say infamous rather than famous.

Gilly wrote:
Fair enough, Gilly. But it's getting a bit late in the game to wait around while people realise Icke's the problem rather than the solution (or the reaction). I don't think that being a good poster and a gullible fuckwit preclude each other. Maybe these people, instead of trying to pick up "inaccuracies" in Icke's work, should focus on the mountains of unprovable speculation that makes up lots of Icke's ouvre. Is it so worth worrying about inaccuracies when Icke claims that one minute he speaks telepathically to Jesus, and the next claims that he never existed, and the next changes the story about how he died. Again the Icke Debunked vid shows you exactly how much of a hypocrite Icke actually is. You can watch Icke damn himself with his own mouth. Another reason why Icke Debunked is banned on DIF.

Shouldn't everyone beware of getting caught up in the "camaraderie that comes from being part of a group"? I don't think that excuse would have worked for the Nazis. It also does not stop Icke being dangerous. The elite are replacing the old order with a new one. Isn't that the case? The nuts and bolts of the old order is being exposed and described by Icke (after he has used other people's research of course), and the NWO will entail global governance, global currency and a luciferian global religion.

Icke's job, along with countless others, is to deliver people to the NWO. If it wasn't he would be whacked straight away like, just one example, Danny Casolaro, instead of having his lectures on Netflix. How obvious that he is controlled opposition does it have to be?

If you are lucky enough to be born a human being on planet earth you should stay a human being, not journey through the ether looking for kindly spirits that are part of the spiritual hierarchy of the universe. Our human problems and our human lives are quite enough without having to worry about how, according to Icke, the earth spirit is very evolved, or how the moon isn't real, or how the Queen is a shape-shifting reptile.

In fact the more I go on about Icke the more repulsive he seems to me. I need a bath now.

grackus wrote:
Great post! 10+

grackus wrote:
Absolutely brilliant post!
Now add some Juniper oil to your bath.....cleanses ALL negativities.....

Unwittingly by him and to the great benefit of tptb. Considering how close human kind is to fucking things up probably makes this fact the biggest own goal ever. Ironic considering he used to be a goalie

Sorry Ive got sidetracked by snooker now