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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 18 Aug 2012 21:50 #21

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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 22 Aug 2012 09:39 #23

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I'm going to have to look into this a bit more as I know didley squat about it ... though, anything that can get women out protesting naked MUST be worthwhile. :D


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www.timeslive.co.za/entertainment/2012/0...cross-for-pussy-riot

Topless Feminists FEMEN Protest In Support Of Pussy Riot (PICTURES)
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/16/puss...femen_n_1787741.html

Naked is good. :approved: :psketti:

Gaze a little upon her pert breasts, then read the article and consider how noble this action was and whether or not there might be an agenda behind it.

"A topless women’s rights activist hacked down a Christian cross in the Ukrainian capital Kiev with a chain saw in protest at the prosecution of Pussy Riot.

The young woman staged her protest as a Russian court was due to deliver a verdict on three Pussy Riot members for performing a political “punk prayer” at the altar of Moscow’s main cathedral — a case that has been criticised by free-speech advocates around the world.

To show solidarity with the Pussy Riot defendants, Inna Shevchenko, a member of the Ukrainian group Femen which often stages bare-breasted shock performances, destroyed the four-metre high wooden cross bearing the figure of Christ.

The cross, erected in 2005 on a hilltop looking down on the city centre, also served as a memorial to the victims of Stalinist repression and the famine of the 1930s. Two other activists used ropes to direct the fall of the cross."
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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 22 Aug 2012 09:45 #24

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Pussy Riot is, in my opinion, a very blatant western sponsored PSYOP.

Who is brave enough to research whether or not they really masturbated with a frozen chicken in the name of art.

And if these quotes are true, then we are dealing with an anti-christian movement that clearly feels that the millions murdered by the Communists in 1920's and 1930's wasn't enough.

"Anti-religious fervour went high among liberal opposition that demonstrated against Putin before the elections and needed a new horse to flog. A leading anti-Putin activist Viktor Shenderovich said he would understand if the Russian Orthodox priests were slain like they were in 1920s. Yet another visible figure among the liberal protesters, Igor Eidman, called to “exterminate the vermin”- the Russian Church – in rudest biological terms."

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=54943

Pussy Riot – Secret History
By Israel Shamir on August 22, 2012

By Israel Shamir – August 22, 2012
Universally admired, Pussy Riot (or PR for short) have been promoted as superstars. But what are they? A rock or punk group they are not. A British journalist marvelled: they produce no music, no song, no painting, nada, rien, nothing. How can they be described as “artists”? This was a severe test for their supporters, but they passed it with flying honours: that famous lover-of-art, the US State Department, paid for their first ever single being produced by The Guardian out of some images and sounds.

We are able to stomach obscenity and blasphemy; I am great admirer of Notre Dame de Fleurs by Jean Genet, who combined both. However the PR never wrote, composed or painted anything of value at all. Chris Randolph defended them in Counterpunch by comparing them with “the controversial Yegor Letov”. What a misleading comparison! Letov wrote poetry, full of obscenity but it still was poetry, while the PR have nothing but Public Relations.

Hell-bent on publicity, but artistically challenged, three young women from Russia decided – well, it sounds like a limerick. They stole a frozen chicken from a supermarket and used it as dildo; filmed the act, called it “art” and placed it on the web. (It is still there) Their other artistic achievements were an orgy in a museum and a crude presentation of an erect prick.

Even in these dubious pieces of art their role was that of technical staff: the glory went to a Russian-Israeli artist Plucer-Sarno of Mevasseret Zion, who claimed the idea, design and copyright for himself and collected a major Russian prize. The future PR members got nothing and were described by Plucer as “ambitious provincials on the make”, or worse.

Lately they have tried to ride a bandwagon of political struggle. That was another flop. They poured a flood of obscene words on Putin – in Red Square, in subway (underground) stations – with zero effect. They weren’t arrested, they weren’t fined, just chased away as a nuisance. And they did not attract attention of people. It is important to remember that Putin is an avowed enemy of Russian oligarchs, owners of the major bulk of Russian media and providers of the Moscow literati, so they print on daily basis so much of anti-Putin invectives, that it’s lost its shock value. You can’t invent a new diatribe against Putin – it has been already said and published. And Putin practically never interfered with the freedom of the press.

My foreign journalist friends are usually amazed by unanimity and ferocity of anti-Putin campaign in Russian media. It can be compared with the attacks on G W Bush in the liberal papers in the US, but in the US, there are many conservative papers that supported Bush. Putin has practically no support in the mainstream media, all of it owned by media barons. A valuable exception is TV, but it is expressly apolitical and provides mainly low-brow entertainment, also presented by anti-Putin activists like Mlle Xenia Sobtchak. So PR failed profoundly to wake up the beast.

Eventually the young viragos were mobilised for an attack on the Church. By that time they were willing to do anything for their bit of publicity. And the anti-Church campaign started a few months ago, quite suddenly as if by command. The Russian Church had 20 years of peace, recovering after the Communist period, and it was surprised by ferocity of the attack.

Though this subject calls for longer exposition, let us be brief. After collapse of the USSR, the Church remained the only important spiritual pro-solidarity force in Russian life. The Yeltsin and Putin administrations were as materialist as the communists; they preached and practiced social Darwinism of neo-Liberal kind. The Church offered something beside the elusive riches on earth. Russians who lost the glue of solidarity previously provided by Communists eagerly flocked to the alternative provided by the Church.

The government and the oligarchs treated the Church well, as the Church had a strong anti-Communist tendency, and the haves were still afraid of the Reds leading the have-nots. The Church flourished, many beautiful cathedrals were rebuilt, many monasteries came back after decades of decay. The newly empowered church became a cohesive force in Russia.

As it became strong, the Church began to speak for the poor and dispossessed; the reformed Communists led by the Church-going Gennadi Zuganov, discovered a way to speak to the believers. A known economist and thinker, Michael Khazin, predicted that the future belongs to a new paradigm of Red Christianity, something along the lines of Roger Garaudy’s early thought. The Red Christian project is a threat to the elites and a hope for the world, he wrote. Besides, the Russian church took a very Russian and anti-globalist position.
This probably hastened the attack, but it was just a question of time, when the global anti-Christian forces would step forward and attack the Russian Church like they attacked the Western Church. As Russia entered the WTO and adopted Western mores, it had to adopt secularization. And indeed the Russian Church was attacked by forces that do not want Russia to be cohesive: the oligarchs, big business, the media lords, the pro-Western intelligentsia of Moscow, and Western interests which naturally prefer Russia divided against itself.

This offensive against the Church began with some minor issues: media was all agog about Patriarch’s expensive watch, a present from the then President Medvedev. Anti-religious fervour went high among liberal opposition that demonstrated against Putin before the elections and needed a new horse to flog. A leading anti-Putin activist Viktor Shenderovich said he would understand if the Russian Orthodox priests were slain like they were in 1920s. Yet another visible figure among the liberal protesters, Igor Eidman, called to “exterminate the vermin”- the Russian Church – in rudest biological terms.

The alleged organiser of the PR, Marat Gelman, a Russian Jewish art collector, has been connected with previous anti-Christian art actions which involved icon-smashing, imitation churches of enemas. His – and PR problem was that it was difficult to provoke reaction of the Church. The PR made two attempts to provoke public indignation in the second cathedral of Moscow, the older Elochovsky Cathedral; both times they were expelled but not arrested. The third time, they tried harder; they went to St Savior Cathedral that was demolished by Lazar Kaganovich in 1930s and rebuilt in 1990s; they added more blasphemy of the most obscene kind, and still they were allowed to leave in peace. Police tried their best to avoid arresting the viragos, but they had no choice after the PR uploaded a video of their appearance in the cathedrals with an obscene soundtrack.

During the trial, the defence and the accused did their worst to antagonize the judge by threatening her with the wrath of the United States (sic!) and by defiantly voicing anti-Christian hate speeches. The judge had no choice but to find the accused guilty of hate crime (hooliganism with religious hate as the motive). The prosecution did not charge the accused with a more serious hate crime “with intent to cause religious strife”, though it could probably made stick. (It would call for a stiffer sentence; swastika-drawers charged with intent to cause strife receive five years of jail).

Two years’ sentence is quite in line with prevailing European practice. For much milder anti-Jewish hate talk, European countries customarily sentence offenders to two-to-five years of prison for the first offence. The Russians applied hate crime laws to offenders against Christian faith, and this is probably a Russian novelty. The Russians proved that they care for Christ as much as the French care for Auschwitz, and this shocked the Europeans who apparently thought ‘hate laws’ may be applied only to protect Jews and gays. The Western governments call for more freedom for the anti-Christian Russians, while denying it for holocaust revisionists in their midst.
The anti-Putin opposition flocked to support the PR. A radical charismatic opposition leader, the poet Eduard Limonov wrote that the opposition made a mistake supporting the PR, as they antagonise the masses; the chasm between the masses and the opposition grows. But his voice was crying in the wilderness, and the rest of the opposition happily embraced the PR cause, trying to turn it into a weapon against Putin. The Western media and governments also used it to attack Putin. The Guardian editorial called on Putin to resign. Putin called for clemency to the PR, and the government was embarrassed by the affair. But they were left with no choice: the invisible organisers behind PR wanted to have the viragos in jail, and so they did.

Commercially, they hit jackpot. With support of Madonna and the State Department, they are likely to leave the jail ready for the world tour and photo ops at the White House. They registered their name as a trade mark and began to issue franchises. And their competitors, the Femen group (whose art is showing off their boobs in unusual places) tried to beat the PR by chopping down a large wooden cross installed in memory of Stalin’s victims. Now sky is the limit.

In August, vacation season, when there is not much hard news and the newspaper readers are at the seashore or countryside, the PR trial provided much needed entertainment for man and beast. Hopefully it will drop from the agenda with the end of the silly season, but do not bet on it.
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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 22 Aug 2012 09:47 #25

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"Upcutting" with a chainsaw in that manner is down right dangerous. Silly girl.

I don't know if the reasoning is along the lines Anthony laid out but I'm still very much of the opinion that this was all a carefully laid out trap....
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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 22 Aug 2012 14:18 #26

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Okay, the frozen chicken masturbation story is real, and here is the photographic evidence for those who doubt it:

plucer.livejournal.com/266853.html

The jailed Pussy Riot members belong to a group called Voina, which translates as War.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voina

This photo shows some of the jailed members:

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Voina_umved.jpg

The performance artists happenings included:

"Voina came to widespread public attention with their 2008 work Fuck for the heir Puppy Bear!, staged the day before the election of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev. Five couples had public sex in Moscow's Timiryazev State Museum of Biology, including Pyotr Verzilov and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, who was nine months pregnant, and gave birth four days later."

Assuming nobody is shocked by that stunt, then animal lovers please note:

"celebrating International Workers' Day by throwing live cats over the counters at the McDonald's restaurant at Serpukhovskaya, Moscow, "to break up the drudgery of workers' routine day"."

Voina splits! :O

"According to other members, the reason for the split of Voina into two factions was that Tolokonnikova and Verzilov had turned police informant against Volodarsky, then had stolen Volodarsky's personal items, laptop computer, and money, while he was in detention.[5] This conflict later led to controversy over which faction should take credit for various artworks created under the name "Voina""

Chickens and vaginas again:

"Also in July of 2010, an action entitled How to Snatch a Chicken was performed in the “Nakhodka” supermarket in St. Petersburg. An unidentified female Voina activist removed a frozen chicken from the refrigerated section of the supermarket, then laboriously stuffed the entire chicken into her own vagina, while being filmed by other Voina members. She then shoplifted the chicken by leaving the supermarket without paying, with the chicken still inserted, and rejoined protesters outside the store"

Arson about... :spank:

"In a more drastic and destructive turn of events, on December 31, 2011, Voina committed an arson attack in St. Petersburg, in which they set fire to a police paddy wagon vehicle[18]. Members broke into a police station on New Year's Eve, and used Molotov cocktails to destroy the vehicle. Voina spokesman Plutser-Sarno wrote in a statement: "Understand that this is not art, it is action which is beyond artistic. This will be our Bonfire of the Vanities"."
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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 22 Aug 2012 14:32 #27

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For anyone who is interested in researching western involvement in the support of opposition groups around the globe to further their own ends, then I highly recommend the following book. "Full Spectrum Dominance" by William Engdahl. This book should be understood as merely the latest chapters in a long history of western interference that has led to countless wars, assassinations and the overthrowing of legitimate governments.

Especially of interest with regards to Pussy Riot is the use of colour revolutions and modern technology / media to promote opposition groups in targetted nations.The book was published in 2009, so the events in Egypt, Libya, Syria etc. were still to come, but bear all the hallmarks of western inspired, funded and armed insurrections. Russia is clearly also on the "To Do" list.

www.amazon.co.uk/Full-Spectrum-Dominance...41883&sr=8-3-spell#_

Book Description
Publication Date: 10 Oct 2009
For the faction that controls the Pentagon, the military industry and the oil industry, the Cold War never ended. It went on 'below the radar' creating a global network of bases and conflicts to advance their long-term goal of Full Spectrum Dominance, the total control of the planet: land, sea, air, space, outer space and cyberspace. Their methods included control of propaganda, use of NGOs for regime change, Color Revolutions to advance NATO east, and a vast array of psychological and economic warfare techniques, a Revolution in Military Affairs as they termed it. The events of September 11, 2001 would allow an American President to declare a war on an enemy who was everywhere and nowhere, who justified a Patriot Act that destroyed that very freedom in the name of the new worldwide War on Terror. This book gives a disturbing look at that strategy of Full Spectrum Dominance.
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Re: Pussy Riot trio sentenced to two years in penal colony 23 Aug 2012 03:59 #28

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Anthony65 wrote:
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G'day.

I'm going to have to look into this a bit more as I know didley squat about it ... though, anything that can get women out protesting naked MUST be worthwhile. :D


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www.timeslive.co.za/entertainment/2012/0...cross-for-pussy-riot

Topless Feminists FEMEN Protest In Support Of Pussy Riot (PICTURES)
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/08/16/puss...femen_n_1787741.html

Naked is good. :approved: :psketti:

Gaze a little upon her pert breasts, then read the article and consider how noble this action was and whether or not there might be an agenda behind it.

"A topless women’s rights activist hacked down a Christian cross in the Ukrainian capital Kiev with a chain saw in protest at the prosecution of Pussy Riot.

The young woman staged her protest as a Russian court was due to deliver a verdict on three Pussy Riot members for performing a political “punk prayer” at the altar of Moscow’s main cathedral — a case that has been criticised by free-speech advocates around the world.

To show solidarity with the Pussy Riot defendants, Inna Shevchenko, a member of the Ukrainian group Femen which often stages bare-breasted shock performances, destroyed the four-metre high wooden cross bearing the figure of Christ.

The cross, erected in 2005 on a hilltop looking down on the city centre, also served as a memorial to the victims of Stalinist repression and the famine of the 1930s. Two other activists used ropes to direct the fall of the cross."

G'day Anthony65.

I've seen more breast on women actually wearing clothes than I can see in that photo. :roll:

Whether something is "noble" or not is a subjective judgment. For instance, was it "noble" to erect a 'cross', the symbol of a religion that gave the world such things as the dark ages and the inquisition ?

As I stated, "... I know didley squat about it", referring to what has transpired.

Personally, I couldn't give a flying fuck about some religious icon, especially as it is based around a fabricated story for the purposes of enslaving individuals into a hierarchy system that also enables pedophiles and gives them sanctuary. That's not to mention the tax free status that the religion enjoys while it runs a business that is calculated in the billions / trillions. All the while, individuals that are followers of such a religion go homeless yet the religion owns enough land to house them all. Millions starve to death while the religion rakes in money hand over fist. Wars are justified in the name of such a religion.

So, excuse me (or not) for not giving a flying fuck about some religious icon. At least no one was killed in the process of cutting down that cross.

Still, I'm all for more naked protesting. :psketti:
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