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Money Free Party 09 Dec 2016 23:29 #1

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What do folk think of this as a political party? I'm considering becoming a representative for the local area - they hardly have any representatives currently.
I follow their Facebook feed and they put out some good links. They heavily endorse The Venus Project and utilising technology in general to remove the shackles of capitalism. There's quite a lot of info on their site too.

moneyfreeparty.org.uk/viewpage.php?page_id=7
The Money Free Party is a political party registered in Great Britain.
The Money Free Party is a growing, global political party representing a shift in global values, away from a society based on increasing consumerism, infinite economic growth and aggressive global competition, towards a society based on sustainability, equity and global cooperation.
The world has a proven abundance of resources and more than enough to feed and give us all more than we need to thrive.
Yet because of the monetary system imposed upon us, these resources are severely restricted, keeping half the world’s population in poverty and an estimated 6 million people starving to death every year.
Poverty is one of the major factors in high birth rates. A reduction in poverty and a materially secure society creates a sustainable birth rate.
The technical advancement over the last 50 years has been incredible, and logically should be helping us to lead less stressful lives and lessen global inequality. Ironically, the opposite has happened and global inequality continues to rise more and more people are suffering from stress. When technical advancement is applied to the work place, the worker is made unemployed, economically and socially punished through a severe drop of income.
When the monetary economy takes a down turn, our corporate media blames the world’s woes on the least powerful of society, the unemployed, refugees and economic migrants, all of which are victims of our monetary economy and not controllers of it. Pollution which now kills another 6 million people on the planet every year [and the numbers are rising] is also a problem, yet any attempts to reduce emissions are bad for business [the monetary economy] and so are not implemented.
We don’t wish to bore you with more reasons to evolve from the monetary economy, and we do realise that for many of you the idea of a non-monetary economy is difficult to comprehend.
What we do wish is for all of you to realise is how easily a non-monetary world can be achieved, once we have the political will to achieve it.
We also want you to be aware how empowering, creative and socially cohesive a money free world would be.
So let’s forget all about our socially conditioned, pre-conceived ideas, and put our feet up and watch some movies.
We are at the beginning of a new form of politics.
Politics made with a single purpose.
To facilitate a transition to a global, resource based economy
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Money Free Party 10 Dec 2016 11:14 #2

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I follow the feed too and agree that they put up some very good stuff and have some great ideas.
Can't get away from it being a political party though...
The MFP has adopted a national and international manifesto of Direct Transition to a world devoid of the concept known as Money.

For example, upon election to positions of political power on a national level, the electorate's agenda will begin with a direct transition to a money free world where its resources are equally shared.
As a requisite, of course, the MFP will need to prove itself, gain trust on a local level, and lay down a framework of free access, voluntary work and local participation. And, at the same time, the MFP must create a system of local governance, where the needs of local people are the only priority, as well as where the local communities are supplied with ample food and energy security.
Hence this manifesto has two aspects, one as an economic safety net in uncertain economic times and two, the foundations of a free society.
moneyfreeparty.org.uk/viewpage.php?page_id=19

"upon election to positions of political power" errrrrmmmm Hands up who sees some um issues there.

My view seems fairly constant (about the only thing that does stay constant in my life!) that this is best approached from a local, grass roots, peer to peer, community level. People getting together, working together and subverting the whole sham system. I fully and unquestioningly support anyone who does this. Be it offering each other help for free, working together in things like guerilla gardening, giving stuff away to each other.... The more we do this the better. I don't see any need to try to get positions of "political power", in fact I see that aim as counter productive and distracting. Standing for election in this system endorses the system and it's the system that needs to go, not just the partys within it.
This said, the money free party do promote some very sound ideas on a big scale and because of that they are doing a great thing as far as I'm concerned.
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Money Free Party 10 Dec 2016 22:42 #3

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Yep totally agree Dubs. I think the political angle is a bit of a grey area. It can only help to promote the idea rather than enforcing it with 'power'... but at the same time it's worth considering that most people only seem to be able to understand politics in this way - so does the ends justify the means when the goal is to remove the notion of power?
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Money Free Party 11 Dec 2016 08:57 #4

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My thoughts are that the saying, start as you mean to go on, has relevance here.
People are used to giving already. We give to charities on a grand scale don't we. Food bank boxes and stuff in supermarkets. If we could expand on that...
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My thoughts are that we already work for no money! People don't see it, but we have long since stopped queuing on a Friday afternoon for our little brown envelopes full of the coins and notes we earned through the previous week. We now get "a digital allowance": that is, simply a few keyboard-tapped-in numbers into our pretend bank accounts. It doesn't matter how many of these digital numbers one computer taps into another - not one single real penny has crossed over from one place to the other. We work for nothing!

And still the things are grown and made, and available to all everywhere.... we just have to "have" the relevant digital allowance to be able to access them!

It's ALL just made up digital numbers! No matter who is dealing with whom, for what, or how much - never a single penny or pound is sent across anywhere in the world to anyone, except in tapped in digital numbers. So, if we can get to see and understand that, people won't be so afraid of it "all falling down" without "money" shoring it up!

Perhaps then, when people see that it all already operates without actual money, they can start to realise that they already (predominantly) police themselves in their daily lives and govern themselves very efficiently too! Baby steps to the Big Stuff.
There is no such thing as Thin Air: Thin Air is full of the particles of creation.

Take something that costs you nothing but effort;
And practice, practice, practice until you make it something fabulous.

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If he undaunted be....". (Beowulf)....
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Money Free Party 12 Dec 2016 02:03 #6

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dubmeup wrote:
My thoughts are that the saying, start as you mean to go on, has relevance here.
People are used to giving already. We give to charities on a grand scale don't we. Food bank boxes and stuff in supermarkets. If we could expand on that...


One of the links the MFP put out was about an EU venture project called Horizon. I was pretty startled that the normally superstate capital representative was undertaking this project, and also bankrolled by many of the Globocorps. Essentially growing a futuristic template for people to live, grow, be educated by and participate in a system of no monetary obligations. Information on it is quite scant though.

Another interesting one they put out was about an experiment where all resources are used in a 'closed loop' - so that the output of one resource would become the input of another etc, until it is recycled. So an area where waste food is left attracts flies, they fly over the pond and get eaten by the fish which aerate the water which feeds the plants in aquaponic systems.

I'm aware that's not really a reply to what you said, I'm a bit minged now. :spliff:
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Money Free Party 12 Dec 2016 21:41 #7

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I might put a sign on me van, "will work for cake". It's not much but it's a start :)
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