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Online weather resources and what they tell us 16 Jul 2012 20:18 #1

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There are lots of online weather sites that provide clues as to the trickery and weaponry being used either to directly influence the weather or for military purposes which have indirect effects on the weather sites. Or sometimes both.

One site to keep a regular check on is the Meteox lightning site. For a long time now this has shown anomalies in the form of either:

1: Very long horizontal or vertical lines of "lightning", often starting out in the atlantic, but in recent days, for example, starting in Poland and heading towards Russia.

2: Clusters of prolonged "lightning" that sometimes respect borders, for example, recently when Turkey was rattling sabres over Syria, the south east of Europe was very busy.

Here is the site: Just one of many similar resources, some of which you can call up from this link.

www.meteox.de/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=lightning

** Dutchsinse has links to many more weather resource channels. He's also due to release a mega video of his take on weather technology (I'm not sure of the actual description). Having seen the trailer, that will be worth a thread of it's own.
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 16 Jul 2012 20:25 #2

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Dutchsinse is the name of a YouTube user who has been providing excellent weather modification relevant information for the past couple of years. This is a fantastic resource for a variety of topics and well worth keeping an eye on and never more so than in this weather wacky Summer of 2012

www.youtube.com/user/dutchsinse
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 16 Jul 2012 21:00 #3

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Dutchsinse is really on the ball. I've seen a it of his stuff, did an interview with Kerry Cassidy which was interesting.

I watch the weather satellite in OZ for my area and every now an then you can see HAARP going off, it gives a weird circular radar signal and no one has given a good explanation for it.
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 16 Jul 2012 21:08 #4

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Dutchsinse is really on the ball. I've seen a it of his stuff, did an interview with Kerry Cassidy which was interesting.

I watch the weather satellite in OZ for my area and every now an then you can see HAARP going off, it gives a weird circular radar signal and no one has given a good explanation for it.

He comes across as a really nice bloke as well. Very knowledgeable, very modest, with a good sense of humour and attracts trolls like flies, which only strengthens his case to be taken seriously. He covers many angles, including the relationship between fracking and earthquakes. His upcoming video will be a free download and will hopefully make more people aware of the incredible amount of hardware that is out there f*cking up the planet.
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Anthony65 wrote:

He comes across as a really nice bloke as well. Very knowledgeable, very modest, with a good sense of humour and attracts trolls like flies, which only strengthens his case to be taken seriously. He covers many angles, including the relationship between fracking and earthquakes. His upcoming video will be a free download and will hopefully make more people aware of the incredible amount of hardware that is out there f*cking up the planet.

I think that is a very big threat to earth and I'm glad his covering that, cause no one else is, might explain all the troll's and shill's on yt, ;)

I listen to this awhile, forget most of it :emb: :roll: to much fluoride in younger days. :(

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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 19 Jul 2012 13:42 #6

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Thanks Anthony65 gonna look into this when I get some spare time.
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 19 Jul 2012 15:56 #7

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Cheers Steevo: I haven't posted much here yet, and I'm debating exactly what to post on this thread in the way of relevant information.

How to get people to take the subject of weather manipulation seriously?

As well as quoting and recommending people to read the US Air Force sponsored Paper "Owning the Weather by 2025: Weather as a Force Multiplier" there is also, for example, the involvement of Dr Strangelove himself, the father of the Hydrogen bomb, Dr Edward Teller who was not only the brains behind Reagan's "Star Wars" progamme, SDI Strategic Defense Initiative, but was also a vocal proponent of Geoengineering while working at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller

Oh, and the United Nations prohibited the aggressive use of weather manipulation technology in the ENMOD Convention of the 1970's. Despite the fact that most nations in the global community found the threat serious enough 40 years ago to agree a convention that prohibits weather modification, and despite the incredible scientific advances since then, most people I speak to do not remotely take the subject seriously.
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 19 Jul 2012 16:24 #8

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Anthony65 wrote:
Cheers Steevo: I haven't posted much here yet, and I'm debating exactly what to post on this thread in the way of relevant information.

How to get people to take the subject of weather manipulation seriously?

As well as quoting and recommending people to read the US Air Force sponsored Paper "Owning the Weather by 2025: Weather as a Force Multiplier" there is also, for example, the involvement of Dr Strangelove himself, the father of the Hydrogen bomb, Dr Edward Teller who was not only the brains behind Reagan's "Star Wars" progamme, SDI Strategic Defense Initiative, but was also a vocal proponent of Geoengineering while working at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller

Oh, and the United Nations prohibited the aggressive use of weather manipulation technology in the ENMOD Convention of the 1970's. Despite the fact that most nations in the global community found the threat serious enough 40 years ago to agree a convention that prohibits weather modification, and despite the incredible scientific advances since then, most people I speak to do not remotely take the subject seriously.

Youre right that people dont take the subject of weather manipulation seriously. My mate for example, he says by his own admission that "it's well know that they have been seeding clouds for a LONG time", but he virtually completely dismisses that the PTB would or could use other types of weather manipulation say to control people in various ways, or to use weather as a covert weapon. That is why this thread is interesting to me. I wanna be able to show more evidence to people :)
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 19 Jul 2012 16:40 #9

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Steevo wrote:
Youre right that people dont take the subject of weather manipulation seriously. My mate for example, he says by his own admission that "it's well know that they have been seeding clouds for a LONG time", but he virtually completely dismisses that the PTB would or could use other types of weather manipulation say to control people in various ways, or to use weather as a covert weapon. That is why this thread is interesting to me. I wanna be able to show may evidence to people :)

Keep an eye on the lightning site. You'd expect to see patches of lightning with random patterns to them, but right now there is a mini line shooting from the sea into Denmark. Sometimes these straight lines go hundreds, even thousands of miles. I predict that as things hot up around Syria and Iran (and Russia) that we'll see lots more anomalies. I'm not sure how to get historical pics and I've been too lazy to get screenshots.

www.meteox.de/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=lightning

** More on how to convince people of the seriousness of weather control: This is early 1970's geopolitics and clearly a blueprint for today's world from one of the world scariest people.

Between Two Ages : America’s Role in the Technetronic Era by Zbigniew Brzezinski (1970)

Some quotes to read and weep to:

"The post-industrial society is becoming a “technetronic” society: a society that is shaped culturally, psychologically, socially, and economically by the impact of technology and electronics—particularly in the area of computers and communications."

"Charles R. DeCarlo, in “Computer Technology” (Toward the Year 2018, New York, 1968, p. 102), describes the use of “holography” to create the sensation of living presence—as well as the actuality of conversations—by long-range laser beams from a satellite."

". . . the United States has been most active in the promotion of a global communications system by means of satellites, and it is pioneering the development of a world-wide information grid. It is expected that such a grid will come into being by about 1975. For the first time in history the cumulative knowledge of mankind will be made accessible on a global scale—and it will be almost instantaneously available in response to demand."

And now to weather control:

". . . techniques of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm, thereby weakening a nation’s capacity and forcing it to accept the demands of the competitor”

"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. . . . The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."

And remember this was written 40 years ago!

". . . man has always sought to crystallize some organizing principle that would, by creating order out of chaos, relate him to the universe and help define his place in it."

"Speaking of a future at most only decades away, an experimenter in intelligence control asserted, “I foresee a time when we shall have the means and therefore, inevitably, the temptation to manipulate the behavior and intellectual functioning of all the people through environmental and biochemical manipulation of the brain.”

"A society’s capacity for making such judgments [, discriminating between the necessity for order and the imperative of change,] is bound to be undermined by the degree to which it becomes psychologically inured to living with violence and to accepting violence as a means for solving its problems."

Here comes Obama...

"Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality, and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the stepping stones in the piecemeal transformation of the United States into a highly controlled society."

"It is ironic to recall that in 1878 Friedrich Engels, commenting on the Franco-Prussian War, proclaimed that “weapons used have reached such a stage of perfection that further progress which would have any revolutionizing influence is no longer possible.” Not only have new weapons been developed but some of the basic concepts of geography and strategy have been fundamentally altered; space and weather control have replaced Suez or Gibraltar as key elements of strategy. [24]

In addition to improved rocketry, multi-missiles, and more powerful and more accurate bombs, future developments may well include automated or manned space warships, deep-sea installations, chemical and biological weapons, death rays, and still other forms of warfare–even the weather may be tampered with."

If that sounds HAARPY, then the next passage is even more so:

"In addition, it may be possible—and tempting—to exploit for strategic-political purposes the fruits of research on the brain and on human behavior. Gordon J. F. MacDonald, a geophysicist specializing in problems of warfare, has written that accurately timed, artificially excited electronic strokes “could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth. . . . In this way, one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period. . . . No matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades."
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 19 Jul 2012 22:01 #10

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Weather as a Force Multiplier:
Owning the Weather in 2025
csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
From 1996

FIFTH ANNUAL
SURVEY REPORT ON THE
AIR WEATHER SERVICE
WEA MODIFICATION PROGRAM
[FY 1972)
www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD755659

Both of these are .mil links

*edit* there seems to be a problem with the 2nd link direct linking. Google "weather manipulation .mil", first page, link titled "SURVEY REPORT ON THE WEA MODIFICATION PROGRAM"
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 19 Jul 2012 22:51 #11

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I went through all this stuff with marpat a few years ago as to whether chemtrials are real, even he came to the conclusion that the military were spraying Barium as it heighten radar communications. When he found a document from the Military admitting it.

I just came across a snapshot of HAARP inaction Anthony, I'll have to sign up to image shack to post it, just pressed for time right now.
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Ok this is basically a conspiracy forum, so I make no apologies for posting this :-
Apparently "fracking" is when they pump loads of water into the earth in order to push natural gas out for collection and apparently it causes earthquakes. Sounds feasable. Ok, you may already know that I'm getting more and more cynical (some may like to call it paranoia lol) but I like to question EVERYTHING. Ok Fracking possibily DOES cause earthquakes, I dont know either way, but the PTB are trying to blame the earthquakes on various things these days but never blaming themselves (ie they never blame it on HAARP), it's always some unfortunate accident, which is OUR own fault cos we wanted the gas, or it's a natural phenomenom.

I accept that natural earthquakes exist, and that earthquakes caused by man (accidents) possibily exist too but lots of us suspect that HAARP is being used to create earthquakes on purpose. (Hmmm Maybe fracking is being used to create earthquakes on purpose ? Who knows)

Are we being programed so that if we see a big earthquake in New York, that we will believe in was just an accident ? I dont know. We all pretty much accept that Celebs are being used to push the agenda in various ways, and "Celebrities against Fracking" does seem to be quite "organised". It could all be genuine though, I will keep open minded on it.

Having said all that I will still watch Dutchsinse's videos for info, but I will take from them what feels right TO ME. Ok sorry to sidetrack this very good thread. Cheers guys. Carry on! :)

A video posted by Dutchsinse
Artists / Celebrities band together against Fracking around New York
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 20 Jul 2012 09:57 #13

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Steevo: You didn't sidetrack the thread at all. I agree that we have to try to see things from all angles. Fracking appears to be a really dirty business and on a large scale is going to cause an awful lot of pollution in addition to potentially destabilizing the earth's crust.

One thing to be remembered when discussing weather modification / weather warfare is that most of it really is simply taking existing weather phenomenon and tweaking them to your own advantage or someone else's disadvantage. A century ago Nikola Tesla was already detailing the possibilities and putting them into practice on a large scale. Tesla was of course a successful and prolific inventor, but the final 40 years of his work, from around 1900 to his death in 1942, were shrouded in secrecy and most of his papers were confiscated. He deserves a thread of his own somewhere of course.

In addition, we have to remember that since the dawn of the age of electricity at the end of the nineteenth century mankind has been interfering on an ever larger scale with natural weather phenomenon. I read of research in the 1970's that stated that electricity pylons were having an effect on the upper atmosphere (and on the poor buggars living close to them of course). Military and civilian radar installations have been around for many decades. The same applies to TV and radio masts, which were often sited in very interesting locations (places of power, ley lines etc., old celtic settlements / megalithic locations, etc.), but again that is worth a thread of it's own!

As for earthquakes. My understanding of how to create your own earthquake is to identify an existing fault line and then start directing pulses of energy into the fault so that like soldiers marching in step over a bridge you eventually trigger a reaction.

I haven't read up on the fracking / earthquake connection but I would ask whether it is being claimed that the fracking process triggers the quake, or does it get a little help from directed energy?
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 21 Jul 2012 23:10 #14

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Thanks for your reply Anthony. Fracking goes on aound the world right now (including Britain). To me the information below is like a Notice of Intent of what we should be expecting to happen soon (It doesnt seem to mention earthquakes, unless I missed it), Basically it is saying that they are gonna poisen natural resources like water and we should expect to get cancer etc. If we dont act APPROPRIATELY then we have given our acceptance to fracking - Also, if we are giving our acceptance to other things that THEY TELL US causes cancer (eg reports in the media years ago that tell us that sausages cause cancer, and OTHER rediculous things like oral sex causes cancer), then when humanity starts dying of "cancer" on a large scale, then we will already have accepted the cause, and we wll not question WHY AND HOW it is occuring, It's like predictive programming,

This is from the website www.artistsagainstfracking.com/
What Is Fracking?

Hydraulic fracturing, AKA "Fracking", is a new method of extracting gas and oil from rocks at a depth of 2,000 to 10,000 feet down into the shale (soft, sedimentary rock formed from consolidated mud or clay) where one finds natural gas. First, deep wells are drilled straight down through the aquifer (the mixture of soil and water from which life-sustaining water is extracted). This drilling then curves horizontally below the earth's surface and into its shale rock formations. Next, millions of gallons of water laced with chemicals are injected at enormous pressure into these rock formations, breaking apart the rock and freeing trapped methane along with other dangerous materials. This is Fracking.

Why Is Fracking Dangerous?
To drill down to the shale, one must drill through the aquifer. These drills are known to leak and sometimes even explode, releasing chemicals into this precious source of water.

The 2011 U.S. House of Representatives investigative report states that out of 2,500 hydraulic fracturing products, more than 650 contain chemicals that are known carcinogens. One would think that the Safe Drinking Water Act - a Federal law - would make such willful contamination illegal, but it is not being applied to Fracking.

Also, most of these chemicals are not biodegradable. Once they are introduced to the aquifer, they will remain there forever.
Wastewater

Each gas well requires 1-8 million gallons of fresh water. The used water is one of the most hazardous wastes in the U.S., containing carcinogenic Fracking chemicals,remnant oil and hydrocarbons, biocides, as well as naturally occurring radioactive materials, like radon, which is heavier than air and sinks into the communities where people work and live.
Air Pollution

There are air emissions associated with Fracking, which include methane leaks originating from wells, as well as emissions from the diesel or natural gas-powered equipment such as compressors, drilling rigs, pumps etc..

Has Fracking Been Banned Anywhere?

Yes, in Vermont. Governor Peter Shumlin and legislature made Vermont the first U.S. state to ban Fracking.

New Jersey, which lacks the pockets of natural gas that one finds in Pennsylvania, Texas, and New York has banned the treatment of Fracking wastewater.

It has also been banned in France, Bulgaria, and South Africa.
How Can They Do This?Isn't This Against The Safe Drinking Water Act?

The Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) is the principal federal law in the United States intended to ensure safe drinking water for the public. In 2005, the Bush/Cheney Energy Bill exempted natural gas drilling from the SDWA. It also exempts companies from disclosing the chemicals used during hydraulic fracturing.
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 22 Jul 2012 10:59 #15

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Sorry Steevo, but the subject of oral sex is not weather related. :sorry:

Keep up the fracking information though!

Here is a link to meteox.de. There are various related sites you can linke to from here which can show you, for example, where chemtrails are being laid especially heavily. Early today France was being hit hard, with the trails sprayed in the north so that they would move south to cover pretty much the entire country.

The following is an overall picture of Europe, including a portion of the Atlantic. Keep an eye in the coming days on the clouds out in the Atlantic and look for signs of weather fronts being blocked. The sun must shine on the Olympics. Poor Spain has long been the victim of weather fronts being blocked in the Atlantic and I'll see if I can find some of the classic images of this, but if you check these sites regularly you'll see plenty of anomalies.

www.sat24.com/de/eu
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Soz Anthony got a little sidetracked there (as yer do). Keeping on topic is important I totally agree :) :thumbup:

I agree that the PTB want the sun to shine on the Olympics.....well we will soon find out.

I have never seen ANY satelite images of chemtrails really. Is that what these images are ? Are they from a satelite, and which satelite - Is it being leaked out ? It must be quite difficult for the PTB to hide chemtrails in satelite images.
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Soz Anthony got a little sidetracked there (as yer do). Keeping on topic is important I totally agree :) :thumbup:

I agree that the PTB want the sun to shine on the Olympics.....well we will soon find out.

I have never seen ANY satelite images of chemtrails really. Is that what these images are ? Are they from a satelite, and which satelite - Is it being leaked out ? It must be quite difficult for the PTB to hide chemtrails in satelite images.

After further consideration, I suppose there could be a weather angle to oral sex, but still that's worthy of it's own thread. :approved:

This morning there were images showing loads of trails over France, but now there are just indistinct clouds. The images are there all right, but the weather experts will simply say that they are contrails. Over here in southern Germany it is an absolutely picture perfect day with blue sky, fluffy natural looking clouds and not a chemtrail to be seen. I can only describe the area I can see of course, and there may be some crap not too far away, but I'm enjoying the sky in all it's natural gorgeousness!

I linked to the lightning site as well a couple of times. It's moderately busy at the moment; in Scandinavia there are lines shooting from west to east, but sometimes it goes crazy with lines of "lightning" stretching from the Atlantic to Russia.

meteox.de/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=lightning

Dutchsinse has loads of weather sites that he uses, including earthquake activity. He identifies the anomalies wuch as rings and squares that have proven again and again to be good indicators of severe weather. His track record is proven and very good. He also gets hit by some very nasty trolls.

The mainstream media keep a lid on any public debate, so the bad guys don't really seem to care who gets to see what they are doing.
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It's the morning of Monday July 23rd. There is no precipitation, the skies are blue except for some areas where the chemtrails stuck this morning and the chemtrails then spread into fake cloud over a couple of hours. Most of sky remained chemtrail free and the trails were the stick, don't stick, stick variety, although it was noticeable that they did stick in the same part of the sky again and again whereas other areas remained chemtrail free.

Okay, so there is absolutely zero precipitation, but when I check the local area for the Precipitation Radar (this is in Germany, but the principle remains the same for elsewhere) there are flashes again and again in certain areas. These are bursts of energy that register on the precipitation energy. The sources are radar installations, weather balls, TV and Radio masts, military bases. Over a period of time you will often see precisely the same place flash again and again, even when there is no precipitation. This is a big clue to the link between ionizing technologies (giving off positive ions) and the persistence of chemtrails in the sky. Remember that positively charged ions speed up the growth of the particles (suplhur, barium, Aluminium oxide etc.), which are often referred to as Cloud Condensation Nuclei (CCN). This is a term you can search for and find a number of scientific papers describing how they work.

The following provides a snapshot for the past couple of hours. It may have quietened down by the time you check it, but find something similar for your area and check it on a regular basis to observe when the precipitation radar shows action without precipitation.

www.niederschlagsradar.de/zoom.aspx?lat=49.28&lon=8.39
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Online Weather Update 24.07.2012. PLEASE READ: LOFAR in Action 24 Jul 2012 11:16 #19

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Okay; here we go! This is very interesting so someone please take a look! :hypo:

The following link is to a 24 hour loop of precipitation activity over Europe. Look to the North Sea, east of England and north of Belgium / Holland and you will see loads of sparkles building up into a perfect circle that also covers much of Belgium and Holland. There is no precipitation. These are radar anomalies on a wide and massive scale. See below for my interpretation.

www.meteox.de/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=loop24uur

This must be related to LOFAR (Low Frequency Array), which consists of at least 20,000 individual antennas, although the wiki entry in French refers to 50,000 antennas.

"LOFAR is the largest connected radio telescope ever built, using a new concept based on a vast array of omni-directional antennas. The project is based on an interferometric array of radio telescopes using about 20,000 small antennas concentrated in at least 48 larger stations. 40 of these stations are distributed across the Netherlands, five stations in Germany, and one each in Great Britain, France and Sweden. Further stations may also be built in other European countries. The total effective collecting area is up to approximately 300,000 square meter, depending on frequency and antenna configuration.[1] The data processing is performed by a Blue Gene/P supercomputer situated in the Netherlands at the University of Groningen"
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Re: Online weather resources and what they tell us 24 Jul 2012 11:23 #20

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I'd expect the pollution from fracking to vary according to specific area and the risk of earthquakes caused by it to be the same deal.
Depends how deep they go too yep?
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