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Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 21 May 2012 23:01 #1

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I like the guy in this video a lot, he's one of my heroes. But I must warn you...he does use some colorful language!



You can read more about this here:

www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/may/21/u...t-care?newsfeed=true
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 21 May 2012 23:26 #2

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This guy is brilliant. He's always absolutely spot on. He speaks for us all and he is truly pissed off with the state of things.

It's shocking what's going on, and people are just standing there taking it. What's it going to take?
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 21 May 2012 23:36 #3

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"av got fuckin foam cumin owt ma moouuuthhh" :spliff:


I love colourful language me :D

Cheers wub.
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 21 May 2012 23:53 #4

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Just been talking about this with someone that's convinced it's all voluntary and there's no such thing as mandatory work placement and it's a good thing and there will be a job at the end of it (just like with the Tesco placements, eh?). They said I was talking about some hypothetical world were we're all living in Ancient Egypt because I pointed out the only choice is do the work or lose your benefits and end up on the streets. :sulk:
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 21 May 2012 23:58 #5

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irrepressible wrote:
This guy is brilliant. He's always absolutely spot on. He speaks for us all and he is truly pissed off with the state of things.

It's shocking what's going on, and people are just standing there taking it. What's it going to take?

Them being in the position where they have to do something against their will to earn below minimum wage? Most people fell for the ploy of the government talking only about work experience placements and how they are totally voluntary when the workfare thing kicked off so don't believe anything is unethical or wrong because it doesn't effect them an they don't know about the other harsher placement schemes that will loose you your benefit if you refuse to take a 'job'. Or the unfair and corrupt system of ATOS and their medicals declaring really unwell and disabled people fit for work.
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 00:02 #6

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Wow!

I say we just stick this guy in a taxi to Downing Street and see what happens!
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 00:09 #7

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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 00:09 #8

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Merla wrote:
Or the unfair and corrupt system of ATOS and their medicals declaring really unwell and disabled people fit for work.

I know my Mum is having to deal with this ATOS shit at the moment, she is in no state to be anywhere near work but they are forcing her to attend some interview? I haven't had a chance to look into it all this week, but from what I've heard it's Cameron trying to penny pinch wherever he can.

But, and it's a pretty fucking big but so I'll say it again.... BUT, Vodafone can get away with £6bn in offshore tax dodging.... Yeah no problem says Cameron. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
let's get that guy in the video above, get some super skol, a few baseball bats and go and smash the fucking houses of parliament to fuck.

And we celebrate Nov 5th? Bollocks.
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 00:17 #9

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boywonder wrote:
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Or the unfair and corrupt system of ATOS and their medicals declaring really unwell and disabled people fit for work.

I know my Mum is having to deal with this ATOS shit at the moment, she is in no state to be anywhere near work but they are forcing her to attend some interview? I haven't had a chance to look into it all this week, but from what I've heard it's Cameron trying to penny pinch wherever he can.

But, and it's a pretty fucking big but so I'll say it again.... BUT, Vodafone can get away with £6bn in offshore tax dodging.... Yeah no problem says Cameron. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
let's get that guy in the video above, get some super skol, a few baseball bats and go and smash the fucking houses of parliament to fuck.

And we celebrate Nov 5th? Bollocks.

If it's the medical interview then she really needs to look into the tricks and ways they interpret what you say, if she has time she should get in touch with the local welfare rights, I have an advocate through them and he's really decent, I didn't have him for the interview and have appealed which failed because they just referred to the interview and am now going to tribuneral. It knocks me sick just to think about it. The charity MIND has advocates in some areas too, it might be too short notice but better to try and have someone go with her that know how to play the game and jump through the right hoops. Which is awful that a genuinely ill person should have to do that but that's the way it is now. :(
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 00:55 #10

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Merla wrote:

If it's the medical interview then she really needs to look into the tricks and ways they interpret what you say, if she has time she should get in touch with the local welfare rights, I have an advocate through them and he's really decent, I didn't have him for the interview and have appealed which failed because they just referred to the interview and am now going to tribuneral. It knocks me sick just to think about it. The charity MIND has advocates in some areas too, it might be too short notice but better to try and have someone go with her that know how to play the game and jump through the right hoops. Which is awful that a genuinely ill person should have to do that but that's the way it is now. :(


Do well babes thanx for the info. I think it is the medical interview, to be honest I thought it could be bad, but after reading your reply my worst fears are confirmed. They really are being complete cunts about this. Really unfair to people that genuinely are sick :(

Are ATOS a whole new department?
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 01:09 #11

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boywonder wrote:
Merla wrote:

If it's the medical interview then she really needs to look into the tricks and ways they interpret what you say, if she has time she should get in touch with the local welfare rights, I have an advocate through them and he's really decent, I didn't have him for the interview and have appealed which failed because they just referred to the interview and am now going to tribuneral. It knocks me sick just to think about it. The charity MIND has advocates in some areas too, it might be too short notice but better to try and have someone go with her that know how to play the game and jump through the right hoops. Which is awful that a genuinely ill person should have to do that but that's the way it is now. :(


Do well babes thanx for the info. I think it is the medical interview, to be honest I thought it could be bad, but after reading your reply my worst fears are confirmed. They really are being complete cunts about this. Really unfair to people that genuinely are sick :(

Are ATOS a whole new department?

ATOS are a private company on contract to the government to interview people on behalf of the Department of work and pensions, they are scumbags, I don't want to worry you any more but do a search on them and see why the campaigners against them march under the banner of ATOS kills. The good news is if your mum doesn't pass the interview then she can challenge it and try to get it changed in her favour, she really should get an advoacte to help her do that if she can't get one for the actual interview, just being honest is not good enough, you need to play word games and avoid traps. And if it has to go to tribuneral then she'll need them for the legal bits as well as the word games and sneaky traps.

The work and benefits website has advice on what to say and do in the interview but you need to be a paid member to get them. A friend of mine is a member, I'll see if I can get a copy of the advice for you. If you don't mind me asking, what benefit is your mum on? Send it to me in a PM if you don't want to say on the forum. They have different help files for each of the benefits. I will try and get the info tomorrow but am meeting with my advocate in the afternoon and might be a bit too frazzled. If so I'll get it for the day after. :)
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 01:21 #12

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I will try and get the info tomorrow but am meeting with my advocate in the afternoon and might be a bit too frazzled. If so I'll get it for the day after. :)

Cheers hun I'll pm fo sure. The interview isn't for a few weeks so hopefully there will be enough time. Me mum will be really happy with the info so thank you v much :) :) :)
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Re: Unpaid Jobseekers to Deliver Patient Care in Hospitals 22 May 2012 01:23 #13

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Merla quite clearly knows her stuff, but if you need any further assistance or advice, please feel free to PM me, boywonder. You might want to keep an eye on these sites too:

righttowork.org.uk/
www.boycottworkfare.org/
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We need more people like this guy getting the message across....colourful language and all :D
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