www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20864392

Right direction as in far Right direction

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfina...50-expert-warns.html

^Just WTF are we gonna do? lol...
Its a nervous 'lol' btw.

andyh wrote:
Will poor people live past 40-50 in 2050?

SOLVED!

humanspirit wrote:
We are sooo fucking screwed. They'll make pensions mandatory by law next and take even more off you for the bastard bankers and then if you f*cking survive to get your pension you'll only get it paid monthly in drips and f*cking drabs while the wanker bankers make shitloads more from it mofo c*ntybollocking assholes :/

Plenty of us had a field day over at the BBC over this latest bout of Camoron hot air yesterday
The new bit in my sig is the kind of thing I was posting
It was funny to watch those who'd swallowed Camoron's bluster trying to weave ropes from sand

Private pensions will not exist by 2050 as young people have no interest in saving money that they can not touch for decades, will have no money as they'll virtually all be working for their benefit or a derisory wage until they die, a leading pension expert has warned.

wake_up_bomb wrote:
Indeed, nicely re-arranged there
Save for a house, save for a pension, save for a family, save for a wedding, save for holidays abroad every year, what a pile of shit lol.
Most people struggle to pay rent,food and power bills.
What the feck is left after that? Jesus you'd have to be on a monster salary to live the dream now.

I make it 120k self employed, 250k+ PAYE to be a family breadwinner and living as you see people do on the tv adverts.
And you have to extend and keep up that income for your entire working life.

Aint gonna fugging happen.

andyh wrote: I would say you're in the right ballpark there for where I currently live. The average house price is 200K+. So you'd probably have to save up 40K for a deposit for starters. That rules out virtually everyone. Or raise your family in a flat. And you'd need an income of about 60 - 70K to borrow 160K, and you'd be mortgaged up to eyeballs, completely vulnerable to an increase in interest rates, and have no disposal income. And, of course, there are virtually no safe jobs nowadays.

This is one area where I must say the public have to take some part of the responsibility. Of course, it's all done by design to feed the banking system, but too many of the baby boomer generation have been too decadent, greedy and materialistic, and too many have treated housing as a way of making money and supporting a materialistic lifestyle, instead of a home to live in. When I speak to people of this generation, they are almost without exception (a) economically illiterate, and (b) completely unaware how fucked their children and grandchildren's generations are.

I was reflecting on this a while ago, as I was watching an old bloke doing his gardening across the road from me, who lives in a big detached house (I live in a flat, I hasten to add!). And I was thinking, you just won't see this much in the future. The banks will own virtually everything, and anyone that does have a house will eventually have to sell it to fund caring arrangements.

Correct,correct,correct and spot on as usual wub

Actually the way of life we want and the way of life we're going to get is one of the key things we should perhaps discuss.
We're too easily distracted by stuff like tv and computer games and other such small consumer items now, it busies the mind and prevents you from contemplating your future too much.

andyh wrote: I must confess to being guilty of that one myself, but I still try to fit in my requisite 12 hours of reading and writing every day! I'm the opposite, I think about the future too much.

andyh wrote:
The elite don't go in for all those distractions,for example.

Cramming schools, which are not mentioned in polite academic society, often include brilliant teachers and teaching.* British education also has its cramming crypts. The most famed, and hoarier than many U.S. colleges, is "Jimmy's" of London (Carlisle & Gregson, Ltd.), which last week was cramming young men for the British medical examinations. As usual, Jimmy's confidently expected to get 90% of them through.

For 70 of its 80 years, Jimmy's has occupied great, dreary, genteel Kensington House. Its ponderous Victorian interior—dark red wallpaper and funereal furniture—is still lit and heated by gas. Among the 20,000 rack-brained heads that...
www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,850462,00.html

From the web also-

The school had a number of Druids teaching there and one of it's famous pupils was Winston Churchill.
One website says the company that runs the school is registered in cork?

I would just call that bunch middle to upper middle class HS.
Upper middle would be more properly eton/harrow.



Thats what I call an elite school
Thats upper class.

Do they have stables to house their man servants?

Did you notice that the house in Kensington was still lit by gas!

There is a photo of the interior somewhere and it hasn't changed from Victorian times,no modern distractions.

When I was a kid we used to go to this place called Normanby Park, which was a country park near a massive country house, and some of the grounds were private, and some of them were open to the public. The country house looks like this:



I only learnt recently that...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normanby_Hall
I wonder why she ended up married to someone with hundreds of millions of assets and I didn't (yet!). I can't understand it.

It's all very well the elite having privileges over the rest of us but to then create things and systems to distract and hold people back then that's part of the black arts.

edited because my original post wasn't funny,and i was trying to be

have we forgotten already about this