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Is freemasonry full of Norse symbolism. 18 Apr 2013 21:27 #1

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I have been looking to see if any Freemasonry symbols match any Norse symbols.

So far i've come up with the two pillars of Freemasonry boaz jachin and Öndvegissúlur or high-seat pillars which were a pair of wooden poles placed on each side of the high-seat (the place where the head of household would have sat) in a Viking-period Scandinavian house.

The tau symbol in Freemasonry and Mjölnir (the hammer of Thor) in Norse mythology.

does anybody know of any others?
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Is freemasonry full of Norse symbolism. 19 Apr 2013 12:42 #2

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Looking for any other possible links with freemasonry and vikings or Nordic mythology i was curious to when freemasonry was first recorded in the UK.
If there was going to be a possible link it would have to appear in the correct time period of Norse influence on the UK.

York in England between 9th and 10th century was dominated by Norse warrior kings and is referred to by historians in this time period as Scandinavian York.

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So could there be any possible link to this part of the UK in this time period and freemasonry?

There is something called the York legend in freemasonry,this legend connects the origin of English Freemasonry at York in 926 during the period of viking influence of this part of the UK.

The legend translated into modern English-

"This craft came into England, as I tell you, in the time of good king Athelstan's reign; he made then both hall, and also bower and lofty temples of great honor, to take his recreation in both day and night and to worship his God with all his might. This good lord loved this craft full well, and purposed to strengthen it in every part on account of various defects that he discovered in the craft. He sent about into all the land, after all the masons of the craft, to come straight to him, to amend all these defects by good counsel, if it might so happen. He then permitted an assembly to be made of divers lords in their rank, dukes, earls, and barons, also knights, squires, and many more, and the great burgesses of that city, they were all there in their degree; these were there, each one in every way to make laws for the estate of these masons. There they sought by their wisdom how they might govern it; there they found out fifteen articles, and there they made fifteen points."

The first sentence is very interesting for the theory to sustain any validity.

"This craft came into England, as I tell you, in the time of good king Athelstan's reign"

The craft is coming into the country from a foreign land at the time period that the biggest outside influence in this area is the vikings and their mythology,language and culture.

www.masonicdictionary.com/yorkl.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_York
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Is freemasonry full of Norse symbolism. 20 Apr 2013 20:23 #3

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The Masonic Order of Athelstan portrays the story of a Master Mason being called to York in 926 AD to receive the Ancient Charges from the king. Throughout its ceremony the ritual contains a great deal of symbolism that is still seen in some Lodges today and a great deal that is not currently worked...Lodges in ancient times were dedicated to King Solomon ...because it is said that he was our first Most Excellent Grand Master or he was the founder of our present system, but in modern times they are dedicated to Saint John the Baptist and Saint John the Evangelist, who were eminent patrons of Masonry, and since their time there is represented in every regular and well governed Lodge a certain point within a circle...
Æthelstan or Athelstan (Old English: Æþelstan, Æðelstān; c. 893/895 – 27 October 939) was King of the West Saxons from 924 to 927, and King of the English from 927 to 939. He was the son of King Edward the Elder and his first wife, Ecgwynn. Æthelstan's conquest of the last remaining Viking kingdom in 927, that of York, made him the first ruler to control the whole of England, and he is regarded by historians as the first king of England.. He claimed the title of 'king of the English', and the submission of Scottish and Welsh kings later in the same year even allowed him to call himself "by wishful extension" 'king of Britain'. Victory over Scottish and Viking forces at the Battle of Brunanburh in 937 confirmed his prestige. His reign has been overlooked and overshadowed by the achievements of his grandfather, Alfred the Great, but he is now considered one of the greatest kings of the West Saxon dynasty...
Malmesbury Abbey, at Malmesbury in Wiltshire, England, is a religious house dedicated to Saint Peter and Saint Paul. It was one of the few English houses with a continual history from the 7th century through to the Dissolution of the Monasteries..The Abbey, which owned 23,000 acres (93 km2) in the twenty parishes that constituted Malmesbury Hundred, was closed at the Dissolution of the Monasteries in 1539 by Henry VIII and was sold, with all its lands, to William Stumpe, a rich merchant. He returned the abbey church to the town for continuing use as a parish church, and filled the abbey buildings with twenty looms for his cloth-weaving enterprise. Today Malmesbury Abbey is in full use as the parish church of Malmesbury, in the Diocese of Bristol...

www.athelstan.org.uk/
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Is freemasonry full of Norse symbolism. 20 Apr 2013 20:27 #4

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⌘, a square with loops at the corners, which is referred to as Saint John's Arms, the Place of Interest Sign, the Saint Hannes cross, or Looped Square, is an ancient symbol now commonly used...The symbol appears on a number of old objects in Northern Europe. It features prominently on an image stone from Hablingbo, Gotland, Sweden that was created between 400–600 AD...The looped square also appears on artifacts of the Mississippian culture...The so-called sun cross or "wheel cross", a cross inside a circle, is frequently found in the symbolism of prehistoric cultures, particularly during the Neolithic to Bronze Age periods...

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Is freemasonry full of Norse symbolism. 20 Apr 2013 20:56 #5

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THE GILD or GUILD SYSTEM IN GENERAL..WHEN the Angles and Saxons settled in ancient England (Britain it was then called) they at first maintained their military form of organization, so that each settlement was a kind of camp; but as time went on and villages became permanent, a civil form of social order began slowly to evolve...The first gilds, as it is believed, were organized in Italy. In France they were very common before Charlemagne, and are first mentioned in the Carolingian Capitularies of 779 and 789. Commercial and craft gilds began to become common in France, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and Sweden in the eleventh century..

The oldest known ordinances, as the written laws for the government of a gild were called, occur in England in the eleventh century. The gild principle proved so successful and was applied to so many uses that by the twelfth and thirteenth centuries it became the outstanding feature of the social and economic life of Europe.The typical gild had prayers for the dead; a common chest for incidental upkeep and for the relief of the widows and orphans of deceased members; periodical meetings, with banquets; admitted members on an oath, sometimes two; administered fines; adopted ordinances for the regulation of its own activities; punished members for improper conduct, and co-operated in many ways with the town or national governments. Most of these societies were small, the largest on record being the Corpus Christi gild at York, which once boasted of 15,000 members...

One of the commonest early uses of that principle was in the "frith", or peace, gilds, which became very popular in North Europe in the sixth century - the Vikings organized then to suppress piracy - and in England the century later, where they were referred to in the Laws of Ine. These were voluntary associations of men organized for mutual defense, to supplement defective laws, and to police the community in a period when national governments were not known and when the authority of the town was very weak..


Weregild (also spelled wergild, wergeld, weregeld, etc.) was a value placed on every human being and every piece of property in the Salic Code (Salic Law)..The payment of weregild was an important legal mechanism in early Germanic society; the other common form of legal reparation at this time was blood revenge. The payment was typically made to the family or to the clan...In 9th century Mercian law a regular freeman (churl) was in fact worth 200 shillings (twyhyndeman), a nobleman was worth 1200 (twelfhyndeman). The law code even mentions the weregeld for a king, at 30000, composed of 15000 for the man, paid to the royal family, and 15000 for the kingship, paid to the people. An archbishop is likewise valued at 15000. The weregild for a Welshman was 110 if he owned at least one hide of land, and 80 if he was landless...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gild
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribe_of_Dan
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Is freemasonry full of Norse symbolism. 01 Mar 2018 14:52 #6

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A month ago the Norwegian Freemason Arvid Ystad published a book with the title “Frimurerne i Vikingtiden”, or “Freemasonry in Viking-times”. The publisher uses the tag-line “Ny teori om frimureriets opphav!”, “new theory on the origin of Freemasonry!”. I have been looking around for more information about Ystad’s theories, but I cannot find much more than a few newspaper articles, none of them in English. Also the book is in Norwegian and it seems to be only available from the publisher, who does not ship outside Norway. Hopefully all this is because the book is very new and lateron it will be available better and more hopefully also in a language that I master.

gangleri.nl/articles/639/viking-freemasons/

Those who still wanted to practice the ancient godhead and the pagan rituals had to do it in secret. Bloody initiation and sacrifice rituals literally went underground and were continued in secret associations that gradually evolved into today's Freemasonry movement.
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