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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 06:39 #21

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Am i a body with a spirit or a spirit with a body. Whose in charge?

The body is the physical manifestation of the spirit, it's like a crust that has formed, so it's a home, when your spirit is out experiencing the 'universe' your body uses autopilot, when we concentrate on our breathing and focus, it brings the spirit back into the body.

Obviously there is a level of consciousness that operates bodily function, without this the body is dead, so even when someone is medically unconscious, they are actually still conscious at the lower level, as body temperature, breathing etc... is still being operated.

How I see the relationship between body and spirit, goes like this.

The spirit is tied to the body by the need to have a home, this means the spirit operates the bodies functions, so when a 'person' is wondering, the body is in a semi unconscious state, it's like the spirit drifts off, sometimes it realises so, and it realises that functions that require the body to operate at a higher level are required, it can be back in a flash.

The problem that I don't see any answer for is, how can an image be illuminated in the mind, everything inside of our skull bone is dark, no light enters.
So when we see/perceive an object, let's say a bird, the eye picks up photons of light, these photons are then brought to the front of the brain, they then get turned into electrical signals, they then get delivered to the back of the brain, where an image is conjured up, so how do we know what is illuminated in our brain is the same as what we think is 'out there'?

Nothing exists, it's not perceivable until it's been brain processed, every signal is sent to and processed by the brain, we then have to trust the brain.

So everything ever processed has been illuminated or considered by the brain, before it is realised, so everything is in the brain, there is no way to actually prove that everything, is being absorbed by the brain, or is it actually projected by the brain, (?) the brain only requires the correct stimulation and a sensation will be conjured to create an illusion, such as a bird, it's possible to expose the brain to the same electrical signals that conjured a bird image via the eye, to conjure a bird image simply by sending a signal. (I mean it's possible in theory just too complicated).
So when you 'see' a bird, the only proof you have that the bird is there, and not in your mind is to ask other people, but then they are in your mind too, and you in there's so if we then accept a level of 'connection' or telepathy as real, then of course there will be a shared agreement of the bird.

Finally. when you look around the room, the room you are now in, how can it not be in your mind, every single item that you can perceive in that room has been illuminated at the back of your dark brain, so are you in the room, or is the room in you?
When you look down at your body, you feel it, see it, smell it etc...
All in the brain, all brain functions, how do we know our minds are in our bodies and our bodies are not in out minds?
This could explain quite neatly how our minds and spirits can effect our bodies health.

Perhaps this is a bit far out :conf:
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 10:26 #22

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You getting all Descartes on us
my limbless friend will die alone
a torso of flesh upon the throne

Violence is not the answer, it is the question. the answer is yes.
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 11:23 #23

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batou wrote:
Am i a body with a spirit or a spirit with a body. Whose in charge?

Finally, if you still are growing, you reach the highest archetype, the archetype of the spirit. This is the time when you finally realize what Jesus meant when he said, “You are in this world, but you are not of this world.” You are not here as a human being having a spiritual experience, but the reverse is true: All of us here are spiritual beings having a human experience.

Dr Wayne Dyer
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 12:04 #24

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But it feels the other way around
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 14:35 #25

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I have read lots of books on this though mostly forgotten now as once again I have faltered and stumbled from my "spiritual path" one thing however that has always stuck in my mind is about deja vu.

The author said we choose the life we come into, we pick the parents, the location, the life and death, all of it (WTF I picked this one for is beyond me :umm: ) anyway we have plotted it all out good and bad to learn and grow. And when we have deja vu it is a spiritual reminder that we are on the path we have chosen for ourselves. We are right where we are supposed to be................because here we are.
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 16:43 #26

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batou wrote:
But it feels the other way around

That's how they gets ya. ;)

Anyway...what are you asking us for? We're all merely a reflection of you. Remember?

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What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 16:44 #27

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Perhaps this is a bit far out :conf:

Are you new? :cool:
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 17:16 #28

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We wanted to see what I thought
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 17:18 #29

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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 18:45 #30

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Problems can reputedly be spotted in the aura (by those who can see them) before they manifest in the physical as an ailment, and at that stage, can be addressed to prevent progression.
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 18:49 #31

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Ab Origine wrote:
Blue_Tackler wrote:
Perhaps this is a bit far out :conf:

Are you new? :cool:

I don't know.

Perhaps reincarnations are not permitted by the facilitators of the spirit world.
This is where my bottom line would be if it existed.
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 19:49 #32

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Blue_Tackler wrote:
Ab Origine wrote:
Blue_Tackler wrote:
Perhaps this is a bit far out :conf:

Are you new? :cool:

I don't know.

Perhaps reincarnations are not permitted by the facilitators of the spirit world.

I think you got me...but just to clarify for those who may not be familiar with my particular 'style', as heaven forfend anyone should think I'm some sort of bitch (shut it...), I mean't to imply that your statement in no shape or form fits with the SZ I know and love.

Further, of the posts I have seen of yours, you are indeed a valuable asset to the place, so never worry that what you're sharing won't be understood or appreciated here.

EDIT: And if it isn't, the cheeky f*ckers will be sure and tell you anyway. :chuckle:
What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 19:59 #33

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Babs wrote:
WTF I picked this one for is beyond me

In the spirit (<<see what I did there?) of this thread, it really isn't, you know. ;)
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Spiritual causes of disease... 09 Apr 2014 20:18 #34

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Ab Origine wrote:
Babs wrote:
WTF I picked this one for is beyond me

In the spirit (<<see what I did there?) of this thread, it really isn't, you know. ;)

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I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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