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Spiritual causes of disease... 05 Apr 2014 22:05 #1

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Spiritual Causes of Diseases

There is a Spiritual underlying cause to most diseases.

Here are a few that may help you identify key areas of emotional buildup that may be manifesting in your body:

Once you have identified what the underlying cause is, the next step is to release it.

Often times, just being aware of it and deciding for it to be gone can shift it enough for improvement.

However, some times it helps to use some Advanced Clearing Techniques as the ones in my Advanced Training and One on One Coaching.

Disclaimer: This is purely addressing these issues on a personal, Spiritual level only. You are always advised to seek care from a licensed medical professional.
List of Dis-ease Conditions
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Abdominal Cramps: Fear. Stopping the process.

Abscess: Fermenting thoughts over hurts, slights and revenge.

Accidents: Inability to speak up for the self. Rebellion against authority. Belief in violence.

Aches: Longing for love. Longing to be held.

Acne: Not accepting the self. Dislike of the self.

Addictions: Running from the self. Fear. Not knowing how to love self.

Adrenal Problems: Defeatism. No longer caring for the self. Anxiety.

Alcoholism: Feeling of futility, guilt, inadequacy. Self-rejection.

Allergies: Denying your own power.

Alzheimer’s Disease: Refusal to deal with the world as it is. Hopelessness and helplessness. Anger.

Amenorrhea: Not wanting to be a woman. Dislike of the self.

Anemia: “Yes-but” attitude. Lack of joy. Fear of life. Not feeling good enough.

Ankle: Inflexibility and guilt. Ankles represent the ability to receive pleasure.

Anorexia: Denying the self life. Extreme fear, self-hatred and rejection.

Anxiety: Not trusting the flow and the process of life.

Apathy: Resistance to feeling. Deadening of the self. Fear.

Appetite, Excessive: Fear. Needing protection. Judging the emotions.

Arm: Represents the capacity and ability to hold the experiences of life.

Arteries: Carry the joy of life.

Arthritic Fingers: A desire to punish. Blame. Feeling victimized.

Arthritis: Feeling unloved. Criticism, resentment. – Rheumatoid Arthritis: Feeling victimized. Lack of love. Chronic bitterness. Resentment. Deep criticism of authority. Feeling very put upon.

Asthma: Smother love. Inability to breathe for one’s self. Feeling stifled. Suppressed crying.

Athlete’s Foot: Frustration at not being accepted. Inability to move forward with ease.
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Back Issues: Represents the support of life. Back Problems: – Rounded shoulders: Carrying the burdens of life. Helpless and hopeless. – Lower Back Pain: Fear of money or lack of financial support. – Mid-Back Pain: Guilt. Stuck in all that stuff back there. “Get off my back!” – Upper Back Pain: Lack of emotional support. Feeling unloved. Holding back love. – Back Curvature: The inability to flow with the support of life. Fear and trying to hold on to old ideas. Not trusting life. Lack of integrity. No courage of convictions.

Bad Breath: Anger and revenge thoughts. Experiences backing up.

Balance, Loss of: Scattered thinking. Not centered.

Baldness: Fear. Tension. Trying to control everything.

Bedwetting: Fear of parent, usually the father.

Belching: Fear. Gulping life too quickly.

Bell’s Palsy: Extreme control over anger. Unwillingness to express feelings.

Bladder Problems: Anxiety. Holding on to old ideas. Fear of letting go. Being “pissed off”.

Bleeding: Joy running out. Anger.

Blisters: Resistance. Lack of emotional protection.

Blood Pressure: – High: Longstanding emotional problem not solved. – Low: Lack of love as a child. Defeatism.

Body Odor: Fear. Dislike of the self. Fear of others.

Bones: Represent the structure of the universe. – Bone marrow: Represents deepest beliefs about the self. How you support and care for yourself. – Breaks: Rebelling against authority.

Brain: Represents the computer, the switchboard. – Tumor: Incorrect computerized beliefs. Stubborn. Refusing to change old patterns.

Breast: Represents mothering and nurturing and nourishment. – Cysts, Lumps: A refusal to nourish the self. Putting everyone else first. Over mothering. Overprotection. Overbearing attitudes.

Breath: Represents the ability to take in life. – Breathing Problems: Fear. Not trusting the process of life. Getting stuck in childhood. Fear of taking in life fully. – Bronchitis: Inflamed family environment. Arguments and yelling.

Bruises: The little bumps in life. Self-punishment.

Bulimia: Hopeless terror. A frantic stuffing and purging of self-hatred.

Burns: Anger. Burning up. Incensed.

Bursitis: Repressed anger. Wanting to hit someone.
C

Calluses: Hardened concepts and ideas. Fear solidified.

Cancer: Deep hurt. Longstanding resentment. Deep secret or grief eating away at the self. Carrying hatreds.

Candida: Feeling very scattered. Lots of frustration and anger. Demanding and untrusting in relationships. Great takers.

Canker Sores: Festering words held back by the lips. Blame.

Carpal Tunnel Syndrome: Anger and frustration at life’s seeming injustices.

Cataracts: Inability to see ahead with joy. Dark future.

Cellulite: Stored anger and self-punishment.

Cerebral Palsy: A need to unite the family in an action of love.

Chills: Mental contraction, pulling away and in. Desire to retreat.

Cholesterol: Clogging the channels of joy. Fear of accepting joy.

Circulation: Represents the ability to feel and express the emotions in positive ways.

Colds: Too much going on at once. Mental confusion, disorder. Small hurts.

Colic: Mental irritation, impatience, annoyance in the surroundings.

Colitis: Insecurity. Represents the ease of letting go of that which is over.

Coma: Fear. Escaping something or someone.

Conjunctivitis: Anger and frustration at what you are looking at in life.

Constipation: Incomplete releasing. Holding on to garbage of the past. Guilt over the past. Sometimes stinginess.

Corns: Hardened areas of thought – stubborn holding on to the pain of the past.

Coughs: A desire to bark at the world. “Listen to me!”

Cramps: Tension. Fear. Gripping, holding on.

Crohn’s Disease: Fear. Worry. Not feeling good enough.

Crying: Tears are the river of life, shed in joy as well as in sadness and fear.

Cuts: Punishment for not following your own rules.

Cysts: Running the old painful movie. Nursing hurts. A false growth.

Cystic Fibrosis: A thick belief that life won’t work for you. “Poor me.”
D

Deafness: Rejection, stubbornness, isolation. What don’t you want to hear? “Don’t bother me.”

Depression: Anger you feel you do not have a right to have. Hopelessness.

Diabetes: Longing for what might have been. A great need to control. Deep sorrow. No sweetness left.

Diarrhea: Fear. Rejection. Running off.

Dizziness: Flighty, scattered thinking. A refusal to look.

Dry eyes: Angry eyes. Refusing to see with love. Would rather die than forgive. Being spiteful.

Dysmenorrhea: Anger at the self. Hatred of the body or of women.
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Ear: Represents the capacity to hear. – Ache: Anger. Not wanting to hear. Too much turmoil. Household arguing.

Eczema: Breath-taking antagonism. Mental eruptions.

Edema: What or who won’t you let go of?

Elbow: Represents changing directions and accepting new experiences.

Emphysema: Fear of taking in life. Not worthy of living.

Endometriosis: Insecurity, disappointment and frustration. Replacing self-love with sugar. Blamers.

Epilepsy: Sense of persecution. Rejection of life. A feeling of great struggle. Self-violence.

Epstein-Barr Virus: Pushing beyond one’s limits. Fear of not being good enough. Draining all inner support. Stress.

Eye: Represents the capacity to see clearly past, present, future. – Astigmatism: “I” trouble. Fear of really seeing the self. – Hyperopia: Fear of the present. – Myopia: Fear of the future.
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Face: Represents what we show the world.

Fainting: Fear. Can’t cope. Blacking out.

Fat or Weight issues: Oversensitivity. Often represents fear and shows a need for protection. Fear may be a cover for hidden anger and a resistance to forgive. Running away from feelings. Insecurity, self-rejection and seeking fulfillment. – Arms: Anger at being denied love. – Belly: Anger at being denied nourishment. – Hips: Lumps of stubborn anger at the parents. – Thighs: Packed childhood anger. Often rage at the father.

Fatigue: Resistance, boredom. Lack of love for what one does.

Feet: Represent our understanding – of ourselves, of life, of others. – Foot Problems: Fear of the future and of not stepping forward in life.

Fever: Anger. Burning up.

Fibroid Tumors: Nursing a hurt from a partner. A blow to the feminine ego.

Fingers: Represent the details of life. – Thumb: Represents intellect and worry. – Index: Represents ego and fear. – Middle: Represents anger and sexuality. – Ring: Represents unions and grief. – Little: Represents the family and pretending.

Food Poisoning: Allowing others to take control. Feeling defenseless.

Frigidity: Fear. Denial of pleasure. A belief that sex is bad. Insensitive partners. Fear of father.

Fungus: Stagnating beliefs. Refusing to release the past. Letting the past rule today.

G

Gallstones: Bitterness. Hard thoughts. Condemning. Pride.

Gas: Gripping. Fear. Undigested ideas.

Gastritis: Prolonged uncertainty. A feeling of doom.

Genitals: Represent the masculine and feminine principles. Worry about not being good enough.

Gland Problems: Represent holding stations. Self-staring activity. Holding yourself back.

Gout: The need to dominate. Impatience, anger.

Glaucoma: Stony unforgiveness. Pressure from longstanding hurts. Overwhelmed by it all.

Gray Hair: Stress. A belief in pressure and strain.

Growths: Nursing those old hurts. Building resentments.

Gum Problems: Inability to back up decisions. Indecisive about life.
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Hands: Hold and handle. Clutch and grip. Grasping and letting go. Caressing. Pinching. All ways of dealing with experiences.

Hay Fever: Emotional congestion. Fear of the calendar. A belief in persecution. Guilt.

Headaches: Invalidating the self. Self-criticism. Fear.

Heart: Represents the center of love and security. – Heart Attack: Squeezing all the joy out of the heart in favor of money or position. Feeling alone and scared. “I’m not good enough. I don’t do enough. I’ll never make it.” – Heart Problems: Longstanding emotional problems. Lack of joy. Hardening of the heart. Belief in strain and stress.

Heartburn: Fear. Fear. Fear. Clutching Fear.

Hemorrhoids: Fear of deadlines. Anger of the past. Afraid to let go. Feeling burdened.

Hepatitis: Resistance to change. Fear, anger, hatred. Liver is the seat of anger and rage.

Hernia: Ruptured relationships. Strain, burdens, incorrect creative expression.

Herpes Genitalis: Mass belief in sexual guilt and the need for punishment. Public shame. Belief in a punishing God. Rejection of the genitals.

Herpes Simplex: Bitter words left unspoken.

Hip: Carries the body in perfect balance. Major thrust in moving forward. Fear of going forward in major decisions. Nothing to move forward to.

Hives: Small, hidden fears. Mountains out of molehills.

Hodgkin’s Disease: Blame and a tremendous fear of not being good enough. A frantic race to prove one’s self until the blood has no substance left to support itself. The joy of life is forgotten in the race of acceptance.

Hyperactivity: Fear. Feeling pressured and frantic.

Hyperventilation: Fear. Resisting change. Not trusting the process.

Hypoglycemia: Overwhelmed by the burdens in life.
I

Impotence: Sexual pressure, tension, guilt. Social beliefs. Spite against a previous mate. Fear of mother.

Incontinence: Emotional overflow. Years of controlling emotions.

Indigestion: Gut-level fear, dread, anxiety. Griping and grunting.

Infection: Irritation, anger, annoyance.

Inflammation: Fear. Seeing red. Inflamed thinking. Anger and frustration about conditions you are looking at in your life.

Influenza: Response to mass negativity and beliefs. Fear. Belief in statistics.

Ingrown Toenail: Worry and guilt about your right to move forward.

Injuries: Anger at the self. Feeling guilty.

Insanity: Fleeing from the family. Escapism, withdrawal. Violent separation from life.

Insomnia: Fear. Not trusting the process of life. Guilt.

Intestines: Represent assimilation and absorption.

Itching: Desires that go against the grain. Unsatisfied. Remorse. Itching to get out or get away.
J

Jaundice: Internal and external prejudice. Unbalanced reason.

Jaw Problems: Anger. Resentment. Desire for revenge.
K

Kidney Problems: Criticism, disappointment, failure. Shame. Reacting like a child.

Kidney Stones: Lumps of undissolved anger.

Knee: Represents pride and ego. Stubborn ego and pride. Inability to bend. Fear. Inflexibility. Won’t give in.
L

Laryngitis: So mad you can’t speak. Fear of speaking up. Resentment of authority.

Left Side of Body: Represents receptivity, taking in, feminine energy, women, the mother.

Leg: Carry us forward in life.

Liver: Seat of anger and primitive emotions. Chronic complaining. Justifying fault-finding to deceive yourself. Feeling bad.

Lockjaw: Anger. A desire to control. A refusal to express feelings.

Lump in the Throat: Fear. Not trusting the process of life.

Lung: The ability to take in life. Depression. Grief. Not feeling worthy of living life fully.

Lupus: A giving up. Better to die than stand up for one’s self. Anger and punishment.

Lymph Problems: A warning that the mind needs to be recentered on the essentials of life. Love and joy.
M

Malaria: Out of balance with nature and with life.

Menopause Problems: Fear of no longer being wanted. Fear of aging. Self-rejection. Not feeling good enough.

Menstrual Problems: Rejection of one’s femininity. Guilt, fear. Belief that the genitals are sinful or dirty.

Migraine Headaches: Dislike of being driven. Resisting the flow of life. Sexual fears.

Miscarriage: Fear of the future. Inappropriate timing.

Mononucleosis: Anger at not receiving love and appreciation. No longer caring for the self.

Motion Sickness: Fear. Bondage. Feeling of being trapped.

Mouth: Represents taking in of new ideas and nourishment. Set opinions. Closed mind. Incapacity to take in new ideas.

Multiple Sclerosis: Mental hardness, hard-heartedness, iron will, inflexibility.

Muscles: Resistance to new experiences. Muscles represent our ability to move in life.

Muscular Dystrophy: “It’s not worth growing up.”
N

Nails: Represent protection. – Nail Biting: Frustration. Eating away at the self. Spite of a parent.

Narcolepsy: Can’t cope. Extreme fear. Wanting to get away from it all. Not wanting to be here.

Nausea: Fear. Rejecting an idea or experience.

Neck: Represents flexibility. The ability to see what’s back there. Refusing to see other sides of a question. Stubbornness, inflexibility. Unbending stubbornness.

Nephritis: Overreaction to disappointment and failure.

Nerves: Represent communication. Receptive reporters.

Nervous Breakdown: Self-centeredness. Jamming the channels of communication.

Nervousness: Fear, anxiety, struggle, rushing. Not trusting the process of life.

Neuralgia: Punishment for guilt. Anguish over communication.

Nodules: Resentment and frustration and hurt ego over career.

Nose: Represents self-recognition. – Nose Bleeds:A need for recobnition. Feeling unnoticed. Crying for love. – Runny Nose: Asking for help. Inner crying. – Stuffy Nose: Not recognizing the self-worth.

Numbness: Withholding love and consideration. Going dead mentally.
O

Osteomyelitis: Anger and frustration at the very structure of life. Feeling unsupported.

Osteoporosis: Feeling there is no support left in life. Mental pressures and tightness. Muscles can’t stretch. Loss of mental mobility.

Ovaries: Represent points of creation. Creativity.
PQ

Pain: Guilt. Guilt always seeks punishment.

Paralysis: Paralysing thoughts. Getting stuck. Terror leading to escape from a situation or person.

Pancreas: Represents the sweetness of life.

Pancreatitis: Rejection. Anger and frustration because life seems to have lost its sweetness.

Parasites: Giving power to others, letting them take over and life off of you.

Parkinson’s Disease: Fear and an intense desire to control everything and everyone.

Peptic Ulcer: Fear. A belief that you are not good enough. Anxious to please.

Phlebitis: Anger and frustration. Blaming others for the limitation and lack of joy in life.

Pimples: Small outbursts of anger.

Pituitary Gland: Represents the control center.

Pneumonia: Desperate. Tired of life. Emotional wounds that are not allowed to heal.

Poison Ivy: Allergy Feeling defenseless and open to attack.

Polio: Paralysing jealousy. A desire to stop someone.

Premenstrual Syndrome: Allowing confusion to reign. Giving power to outside influences. Rejection of the feminine processes.

Prostate: Represents the masculine principle. Mental fears weaken the masculinity. Giving up. Sexual pressure and guilt. Belief in aging.

Psoriasis: Fear of being hurt. Deadening the senses of the self. Refusing to accept responsibility for our own feelings.
R

Rash: Irritation over delays. Immature way to get attention.

Right Side of Body: Giving out, letting go, masculine energy, men, the father.

Ringworm: Allowing others to get under your skin. Not feeling good enough or clean enough.
S

Scabies: Infected thinking. Allowing others to get under your skin.

Sciatica: Being hypocritical. Fear of money and of the future.

Scleroderma: Protecting the self from life. Not trusting yourself to be there and to take care of yourself.

Scratches: Feeling life tears at you, that life is a rip off.

Senility: Returning to the so-called safety of childhood. Demanding care and attention. A form of control of those around you. Escapism.

Shin: Represents the standards of life. Breaking down ideals.

Shingles: Waiting for the other shoe to drop. Fear and tension. Too sensitive.

Sinus Problems: Irritation to one person, someone close.

Skin: Protects our individuality. Anxiety, fear. Old, buried things. I am being threatened.

Slipped Disc: Feeling totally unsupported by life. Indecisive.

Snoring: Stubborn refusal to let go of old patterns.

Solar Plexus: Gut reactions. Center of our intuitive power.

Sores: Unexpressed anger that settles in.

Spleen: Obsessions. Being obsessed about things.

Sprains: Anger and resistance. Not wanting to move in a certain direction in life.

Sterility: Fear and resistance to the process of life or not needing to go through the parenting experience.

Stiffness: Rigid, stiff thinking.

Stomach: Holds nourishment. Digests ideas. Dread. Fear of the new. Inability to assimilate the new.

Stroke: Giving up. Resistance. Rather die than change. Rejection of life. Stuttering: Insecurity. Lack of self-expression. Not being allowed to cry.

Sty: Looking at life through angry eyes. Angry at someone.

Suicidal thoughts: See life only in black and white. Refusal to see another way out.
T

Teeth: Represent decisions. - Teeth Problems: Longstanding indecisiveness. Inability to break down ideas for analysis and decisions. – Root Canal: Can’t bite into anything anymore. Root beliefs being destroyed. – Impacted Wisdom Teeth: Not giving yourself mental space to create a firm foundation.

Throat: Avenue of expression. Channel of creativity. – Throat Problems: The inability to speak up for one’s self. Swallowed anger. Stifled creativity. Refusal to change. – Sore throat: Holding in angry words. Feeling unable to express the self.

Thrush: Anger over making the wrong decisions.

Thymus Gland: Feeling attacked by life. They are out to get me.

Thyroid Gland: Humiliation. I never get to do what I want to do. When is it going to be my turn. - Hyperthyroid: Rage at being left out.

Tics, Twitches: Fear. A feeling of being watched by others.

Tinnitus or Ringing in the Ears: Refusal to listen. Not hearing the inner voice. Stubbornness.

Toes: Represent the minor details of the future.

Tongue: Represents the ability to taste the pleasures of life with joy.

Tonsillitis: Fear. Repressed emotions. Stifled creativity.

Tuberculosis: Wasting away from selfishness. Possessive. Cruel thoughts. Revenge.
U

Urinary infections: Pissed off, usually at the opposite sex or a lover. Blaming others.

Uterus: Represents the home of creativity.
V

Vaginitis: Anger at a mate. Sexual guilt. Punishing the self.

Varicose Veins: Standing in a situation you hate. Discouragement. Feeling over-worked and overburdened.

Vitiligo: Feeling completely outside of things. Not belonging. Not one of the group.

Vomiting: Violent rejection of ideas. Fear of the new.
WXYZ

Warts: Little expressions of hate. Belief in ugliness. – Plantar Warts: Anger at the very basis of your understanding. Spreading frustration about the future.

Wrist: Represents movement and ease.
What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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Spiritual causes of diseases... 05 Apr 2014 22:19 #2

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www.askahealer.com/psoriasis-spiritual.htm
The Spiritual Implications of Psoriasis:
Psoriasis creates chronic symptoms. Any condition that is chronic points to non-physical factors that are also chronic. Some examples would be the chronic, persistent fears associated with growing up in an abusive household, the chronic stress of poverty, the relentless feeling of worry if a parent is terminally ill when we are young, etc.

According to Louise Hay, psoriasis indicates a chronic fear of being hurt. I also see it in cases where there is abuse and damage to self-esteem because of abuse.

Since psoriasis is lifelong, systemic and thought to be genetically linked, it may sometimes point to past life healing that you've been unable to resolve with some member of your immediate family, and most likely, your father or mother.

The time of onset of such a condition is a good place to start for non-physical clues that might be factors. For example, in the case of the woman who asked about healing psoriasis, her time of onset was around the age of 7 so I would suspect there was some event or situation at the age of seven that triggered a past life response to a present life situation. I recommended that she think back to whatever was happening then and look specifically for life-altering or traumatic events such as major illness, death of a parent or sibling, prolonged separation from family, divorce, etc.

That is pretty much a general suggestion I give whenever anyone has a chronic condition and they want to look at possible non-physical contributing factors. Think back to when the condition or illness first manifested, look at your life during that time period, and find any traumatic factors that might need healing or resolve now.
What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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Spiritual causes of disease... 05 Apr 2014 23:35 #3

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And what dis-ease does Abs-stinence cause?

I think I've got it.

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I wouldn't know as I make sure I get a dose - daily.

I'd imagine that mooning and near constant erections might come into play, however (mind, that's kinda the same as when I am about, not that I'm one for blowing my own horn...course, I would if I could).

Fret not...I'll never leave.

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Spiritual causes of disease... 06 Apr 2014 18:32 #5

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Some good shit you are getting into here Abs :thumbup: , this is almost Meta-Health/Medecine. It's with this kind of work where EFT and Matrix Re-imprinting comes into it's own, working on those old initial belief systems, and usually curing long-term illnesss, phobias, fears, allergies etc.
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Cheers mate. I figure I've tried everything else re. illness, so there's nowt to lose with a little experimentation.

Now that I'm beginning to re-jig things in my mind, it's actually making a lot more sense to me than many aspects of conventional medicine ever did.

So far, I've stopped wearing my reading specs and am having some success with skin issues. I'm getting some bits come through re. the legs, which actually makes a lot of sense in terms of the list above, so we shall see what we shall see.

It's all fascinating though. Glad you approve. :thumbup:

Edit: Just noticed your new tag...very wise advice, indeed. ;)
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Here you go Abs thought you might find these of interest if you have not seen or heard them already, the first one is a cd version of positive affirmations :) :up:



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I swear by Louise Hay's You Can Heal Your Life book, it's like my little bible though lots of people (family) think it's mumbo jumbo hippy dippy shit. :chuckle:

For the past while I have grown further and further away from conventional medicine and more towards a holistic lifestyle (except for my red wine. :D )

I have just last week subscribed to an online channel called Food Matters. I have only watched about 3 full length videos so far but it all makes so much sense.

F00D MATTERS
www.fmtv.com/

BTW there is a full length Louise Hay video on there but I haven't watched it yet.
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On the TPV thread ages ago I remember copy typing some stuff from her book about David Icke and his hands. :thumbup:
I did what I thought was best at the time and when I knew better I did better. :)
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I'm gonna chip in with some observations based on my own life. Part of why I am doing this is because I think it will help me to write it. Part in the hope that it may be of help to someone, somewhere.
I aint looking for pity or sympathy folks so please don't offer them. You'll just have to trust me there.

When I was about 9, my childhood was brought to an abrupt end. I spent night after night cowering under my bed clothes as the fights between my mum and dad took place in the next room. My mother, always fond of a tipple, took to heavy drinking and was insensible most nights. I spent around 6 months basically stopping her from topping herself. I found her preparing for it on several occasions and had to physically stop her more than once. By this time she was living in the dining room and my father was rarely about. When he was, there was war.
This culminated on the christmas day of that year. My mum, trying for once to be an actively good mum, somehow managed to organise a christmas for her two boys. We woke up on christmas morning to find presents at the end of our beds and had a lovely breakfast. My dad hadn't come home that night. He didn't come home all day. My mother was choking back the tears as she went about trying to give her boys some sense of 'normality'. Propping herself up with Strongbow cider. My dad finally rolled in around 9pm. All fucking hell broke loose. The fight was so bad that I had no choice but to do something. I totally lost the plot and opted for smashing my dad over the head with a do it yourself electronics kit that he had bought me for my birthday that year. It shocked him to his senses and he then had to listen to his now ten year old son calling him every name under the sun and wishing him dead. He deserved it. He got off lightly as far as I am concerned.

My mother and me moved into a pokey cottage on her friends farm the next week. My brother stayed with his dad. Dad used to sit in his van 20 yards down the lane night after night. Never knocking the door. Just sitting there. Mum drank to escape. I was prone to intense periods of total introspection/depression, violent outbursts of rage and self destructiveness by now. I was regularly threatened with being placed in care.

A few months on I started big school. A year early. The eddumycation folk treated my regular 100% scoring on Richmond tests as a reason to advance my eddumycation. Went from a village school with 40 kids to a town school of 800. I was instantly bullied, being the youngest kid in the school. Regularly tripped, doused in water, thrown atop lockers, insulted and slapped. The teachers did nothing. Except continually threaten me with having to go back a year if my grades didn't improve. If anything they were worse than the kids.

Somewhere in all this, I developed a fuck you attitude. No doubt a necessary self defence. I worked out that i was smart and could out-think most of these clowns without having to try. So that's what I did. I became full on rebel. I got a reputation for disrupting every lesson possible by continually pointing out the inherent bullshit in what we were being taught. I subsequently got to know the deputy head very well because I spent most of my time outside his office. He was actually sound. For some reason he seemed to like and respect me. He knew I was getting nothing from school, he also knew he couldn't have the rest of the kids getting nothing as a result of my presence. He let me have access to the school library and any text books I wanted and I sat there doing o level tests and broadening my mind. My school life was spent acing yearly exams and doing fuck all else all year. It worked and they never put me back a year. Neither my mum or dad wanted me around so I ended up living on my own in a caravan at the bottom of my dad's garden. They gave me food and clothing and left me to it. I took gardening jobs to pay for my um interests.

I was banned from the school bus as a result of an incident where I nicked a knife from woodwork and somehow several seats on the bus got wrecked and a boy ended up with 10 stitches to the back of his head. I didn't inflict the cut. My mate did. Who was equally......disturbed. I was always in trouble with the law. I perfected making petrol bombs with my mate and set about deploying them. We literally terrorised the area. If anyone offended me, I'd be round their house in the small hours to smash the fuck out of their windows, pour nitromors on their car or leave broken glass on their doorstep.
So that meant I was effectively on permanent suspension as I couldn't get there (edit: to school). I was in my last year and spent most of my time walking the hills and valleys of the Blackmore Vale and playing my guitar.....very very loud. I did the o levels got them all and left. Except I couldn't officially leave school for 6 months until the easter after my 16th so they sent me to 6th form till then.

I'd built up a strong relationship with drugs and alcohol by this time and my exploits with 'playing the game' with teachers and bullies had ingrained a pattern in my thought. The outside world was a place that hurt. A place where everyone is ultimately out to fuck you over. The inside world was where I hid. No-one out there got to get in. I was diagnosed as manic depressive when I was 18. This was as a result of two things. I'd become badly addicted to amphetamine sulphate and my gran died. My gran had been the only person on earth that I trusted and the only one there for me.

Life then continued in a pattern of bi polar 'behaviour' for many years. I gradually grew up a bit and started to focus myself a bit more though was still prone to total loss of control.

I'm gonna kind of fast forward from there to about three years ago. I'd long since thought I'd got on top of the bi polar. I self medicated with cannabis and though the swings were still there, I was more or less able to avoid the depths. I was finally in a healthy and loving relationship and life had got immeasurably better.
I was then involved in a freak road accident that resulted in a young father of two, dying. It was an intensely traumatic experience.
In essence I 'coped' by doing the same as I had always done since I learnt how to do it as a kid. I hid the pain away.

Over the last year or so things got wierd. I became impatient, intolerant, prone to anger, struggled to sleep and eat. I approached this intellectually but assumed this was a bi polar thing and for some reason the brain chemicals had started going awry again. I self medicated with cannabis and dwelt on stuff. My relationship with my partner detriorated immensely to the point where we were splitting up fortnightly, sometimes more.
Ten days or so ago I lost the plot. I acted proper shittily in anger. Not violent. But shitty. Said things you shouldn't say and threw a tantrum.
A day or so after, I was trying to make sense of it all when I had one thought.
"John died on the day of that accident and his chance to either grow or mess up his life, ended there. I have had the chance and have wasted it. I've messed shit up. Badly".
The thought was the crack in the dam. I cried solidly for two days.
During those days I felt all the pain I'd felt as a kid. I felt all the pain of the accident, John's family, loved ones I have upset etc etc etc. It was undescribably awful.
But it was crucial. I can now see properly for the first time that I aint bi fucking polar. I'm not the victim of some unfortunate genetic screw up that gave me misbehaving brain chemicals.
I have been diagnosed now with post traumatic stress disorder. That's more like it.
Why?
Because it isn't the physical me that's been damaged and broke. It's my spirit. Spirit is born free within the confines of this plane of existence. The things that have happened to me have chipped away at that freedom as I grew up. My spirit itself became confined within a range of self programmed responses, thought patterns, fears and buried pain. Brain chemicals have just been doing their thing to match the spiritual 'damage'.
I can see how my life has been so limited by it. How I have been a victim of my own coping mechanisms. I can stand here now in spirit and see it objectively. And I'll have no part of it any more. Those coping mechanisms should protect spirit. Not imprison it.

I am not professing to have found some secret. All I can see is how I myself have let myself become fucked up. I'm not going to beat myself up about it. It happened for a reason and it was obviously necessary. But I will not repeat the mistakes.

Bad shit will always happen. So will good shit and neutral shit. I will be dealing with things in the moment from now on.
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It's funny how one thing leads to another, I read part of this book (I only read parts of books).

It was after I saw John Lennon on TV talking about the illness of the worlds population etc...

He mentioned Arthur Janov, so I took it upon myself to read a bit about it.

It's about the 'primal scream' theory and the 'split'.

According to the theory an infant (baby) at some point will experience an unmet need for the first time, either it's parent(s) are too busy or they think it needs to learn that they won't always come when it cries.

So that feeling of 'neglect' for the infant needs to be dealt with, it stops crying and feels a bit depressed.
A new layer of consciousness is then created by this new experience, and the infants consciousness experiences a split like this Y.

The problems start later in life when traumatic feelings that get placed down in the unwanted layer, begin to surface in the wanted layer, as different symptoms.
Like neurosis, or it could be rituals, hobbies ,etc...

Like the guy who spends hours alone in his roof conversion making a model railway/village scene, he knows not his motives, according to the theory this behaviour is a manifestation (symptom) of the split, it's a distraction.

Apparently according to Janov, he can induce over time with therapy a 'primal scream' from a patient, who has been stimulated to recall emotions/memories of childhood trauma, often when this is dealt with via a primal scream from the patient the Y begins to go back into a one.

I don't know why but I always think of this when I recall this part of Janov's book
"Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples: "These babies nursing are like those Who enter the kingdom.' His disciples said to him: "Shall we then enter the kingdom as babies? " Jesus answered them and said: 'When you make the two into one, "And when you make the inner like the outer, 'And the outer like the inner, 'And the upper like the lower, 'And when you make male and female Into a single one, "So that the male will not be male 'And the female not be female … "Then you shall enter the kingdom."

The problem with subconscious trauma is that if it is based on a foundation of the memory from an infant, it's always going to be supressed, because the infant itself becomes supressed when the adult emerges.

Obviously if someone is exposed to awful acts, then that's another story, but for most who just go through life with this trauma they don't even know they have it, nor do they know it's symptoms are apparent in hobbies, interests and ritualistic quirks.

I'm quite interested in rituals and can't help but wonder if a lot of rituals, customs, cultural practices, and routines are based on a shared need to create distractions.
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dubmeup wrote:
Bad shit will always happen. So will good shit and neutral shit. I will be dealing with things in the moment from now on.

It may not make you feel any better, but you may not have arrived at this very important conclusion had not all the stuff you just wrote about actually happened. Feels like a big moment to me. Had one myself not long ago. Well done ;)

Also...it sounds like we've come from quite similar backgrounds re. the homelife stuff. :hug:
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Blue_Tackler wrote:
It's funny how one thing leads to another, I read part of this book (I only read parts of books).

It was after I saw John Lennon on TV talking about the illness of the worlds population etc...

He mentioned Arthur Janov, so I took it upon myself to read a bit about it.

It's about the 'primal scream' theory and the 'split'.

According to the theory an infant (baby) at some point will experience an unmet need for the first time, either it's parent(s) are too busy or they think it needs to learn that they won't always come when it cries.

So that feeling of 'neglect' for the infant needs to be dealt with, it stops crying and feels a bit depressed.
A new layer of consciousness is then created by this new experience, and the infants consciousness experiences a split like this Y.

The problems start later in life when traumatic feelings that get placed down in the unwanted layer, begin to surface in the wanted layer, as different symptoms.
Like neurosis, or it could be rituals, hobbies ,etc...

Like the guy who spends hours alone in his roof conversion making a model railway/village scene, he knows not his motives, according to the theory this behaviour is a manifestation (symptom) of the split, it's a distraction.

Apparently according to Janov, he can induce over time with therapy a 'primal scream' from a patient, who has been stimulated to recall emotions/memories of childhood trauma, often when this is dealt with via a primal scream from the patient the Y begins to go back into a one.

I don't know why but I always think of this when I recall this part of Janov's book
"Jesus saw some babies nursing. He said to his disciples: "These babies nursing are like those Who enter the kingdom.' His disciples said to him: "Shall we then enter the kingdom as babies? " Jesus answered them and said: 'When you make the two into one, "And when you make the inner like the outer, 'And the outer like the inner, 'And the upper like the lower, 'And when you make male and female Into a single one, "So that the male will not be male 'And the female not be female … "Then you shall enter the kingdom."

The problem with subconscious trauma is that if it is based on a foundation of the memory from an infant, it's always going to be supressed, because the infant itself becomes supressed when the adult emerges.

Obviously if someone is exposed to awful acts, then that's another story, but for most who just go through life with this trauma they don't even know they have it, nor do they know it's symptoms are apparent in hobbies, interests and ritualistic quirks.

I'm quite interested in rituals and can't help but wonder if a lot of rituals, customs, cultural practices, and routines are based on a shared need to create distractions.

In EFT/Matrix work, we go back to that child at the time of the trauma, and can change the belief that came from that moment. Look into it , the results are astonishing. The likes of Bruce Lipton, Wayne Dyer, Gregg Brayden, Louise Hay all advocate EFT/Matrix.
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In EFT/Matrix work, we go back to that child at the time of the trauma, and can change the belief that came from that moment. Look into it , the results are astonishing. The likes of Bruce Lipton, Wayne Dyer, Gregg Brayden, Louise Hay all advocate EFT/Matrix.

This is very similar in concept to "Re-decision" therapy jhado, it is basically the same principle just called something else, i do not know of eft/matrix so would be interested to learn about it if you would like to tell me more :up:

www.nature-nurture.org/index.php/chronic.../redecision-therapy/
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I did a one day course on EFT some years ago but you can probably do it for free now on the Internet. I never had any luck with it TBH.

I would like to know about the EFT/Matrix too Jhado.

I LOVE Wayne Dyer and remember reading a book or two by Gregg Braden when I was heavily into that "stuff" some years ago which I have let slide.............
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I'm unsure if primal therapy is a type of EFT?

I can't quite remember the exact document where I read this, it was about depression.
In short, depression is a natural thing, it's a way of 'stopping'.
For example if physical pain and mental pain are compared it's easier to comprehend.

Imagine being stood too near a fire, you feel too much heat, thus you move away, the nervous system detects the heat and warns the person, they then move away from the fire..
With emotional pain, it's very similar just more complicated, you feel pain, perhaps someone you know had died, or you didn't get that job promotion you wanted, you've been given the elbow by a partner in love etc... there can be lots of reason for emotional pain as in physical pain.

The only difference is we easily see how to avoid physical pain, with emotional pain, depression is a tool that is used to stop the person continuing, it's a 'brake' it means 'stop' you are now mentally pursing something that is no good, it's a lost cause, it will be a waste of energy to continue with this thought or these actions, but because 'we' can't just switch off our thoughts, how we move away from a source of physical pain, we need this 'depression' to indicate to us to stop.
The problems arise when this depression becomes over whelming, but depression in itself is natural, it's only when it becomes over whelming over periods of time that it then is a sickness.
Without the natural feelings of depression that everyone experiences energy would be wasted pursing goals that no longer exist as a realistic fact.
This is why it's easier to deal with death of a loved one when they have been ill, and it's been a drawn out experience, when someone dies unexpectedly, their loved ones have unfinished business, they were not prepared, they have not had time to begin the process of acceptance, to a degree, they are still 'looking' for the person, this is when what is termed as 'depression' can kick in, it's a natural state that makes people 'flake out' stop 'wasting energy' on something that is no longer real, depression is then the mental tool, the tool that is used to accept that energy needs to be redirected away from this person, as they are dead and now only a memory, in a very similar way to how the pain tool of physical danger can redirect energy away from a fire, you walk away, because it's unhealthy to continue with your present behaviour.

I wish I could remember the document. :think:

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it's a 'brake' it means 'stop' you are now mentally pursing something that is no good, it's a lost cause, it will be a waste of energy to continue with this thought or these actions, but because 'we' can't just switch off our thoughts, how we move away from a source of physical pain, we need this 'depression' to indicate to us to stop.
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That's an interesting way of thinking of it. If you believe you have a soul (or rather a soul has you), it makes a lot of sense to me that emotional responses are a form of communication between 'you' and 'you. Simply put, if you're feeling anything but joy about a circumstance or situation (easier said than done, I know) you are not viewing things as your soul is. In this way, you'll always know if you're on the right track, mentally/emotionally.

The same could be said for actual physical ailments, which is how I landed up here just now. The manifestation of disease could be interpreted as some indication that something is awry with your thinking...again, if you believe that the universe that your physical body inhabits is 'mental'. Good stuff.

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I believe that we are all sick and we don't know it.

I also believe that there is an inner conflict that goes on between the old animal instinct brain and the new human logical brain, so the instinct needs to be supressed by logic in order to complete logical tasks.

Hmmmm, I'm trying to think of an instance.

:Let's say a logical task is to be required, an element of risk is involved, such as crossing a busy road, the instinct says 'wow, this is too risky' the logic says,' I know but this has to be complete'. I need to cross for a particular reason, the instinctive brain and the logical brain appear to be having a dispute or a meeting, the logical brain will usually win and supress those instinctive feelings.

I rather think that some illness's are caused by this, as the animal part of the brain becomes depressed because of the logical brain of the new human.

Most people don't live a life of danger, like humans would have done thousands of years ago, thus there is less to fear, such as being eaten by wild beasts, etc.

So when this fear has nothing to do, it tends to turn on the host, imo, and when it attacks the host irrational fear is spawned, so the logical brain is in turn supressed by the animal brain.

I hope that all makes some kind of sense as I am just reeling off the top of my head.
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Good thread.

I knew an amazing lady who often talked of - I'm reluctant to say 'believed in' - the spiritual or emotional reflections upon the body. She often spoke of being brought up by nuns and struggling throughout adolescence and dealing with sexuality, being a sexual being I mean as opposed to lesbian. Although never said, I think sexual abuse was probable in her younger years. Anyhow, later she died following cancer of the cervix/ovaries/womb. I always wondered whether she considered her previous theories during her own illness. :(

& Hey dub - didn't want to read & run :)

Your post resonated with me - & I could feel the need for it to be said (written) :up:

ETA: Sorry if that sounds patronising - wasn't intended that way :-)
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