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the chemtrails issue 24 May 2012 22:32 #1

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i often laughed at people posting random clouds and calling them chemtrails, because thats stupid to claim.

also, theexplanations given with added drama(make believe tactics) didnt help.

however, im am sure the govts do spray poisonous chemicals upon us, were just not told about it.

i dont believe any of these proof videos, theyd do it secretly and not so stupid that any random guy could figure it out by cloudwatching.

but they do things like that, i have no doubts.

no need to look further than into contrails themselves, these arent exactly healthy and enviroment friendly themselves.

any poison will be released on everyone for a profit these days.the poison levels are just reduced to safe levels, so they can sell more of it to us.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 24 May 2012 23:05 #2

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I think people confuse jet trails from commercial flights for chemtrails.

Doesnt rule out other sprayings though.

But i agree that many videos show contrails in areas where there are repeated flight paths...add a slight breeze in one direction and 10 minutes between each plane flying the same route, and you get a parallel line pattern in the sky...and people jump on this and call it chemtrailing.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 24 May 2012 23:08 #3

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yes and even funnier are the ones who declare simple common clouds as chemtrails,lol.

whoever does the spraying certainly would be smart enough to do the spraying during night or when its fully cloudy or raining.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 24 May 2012 23:27 #4

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hadabusa wrote:
yes and even funnier are the ones who declare simple common clouds as chemtrails,lol.

did u see thirdwave pushing chemtrails over there in a chemtrail thread, lol.

was only just behind him arguing with rodin in the bomb hoax thread, and the peru thread. :larf:
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Re: the chemtrails issue 25 May 2012 05:50 #5

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Good topic. I don't think the intent is to intentionally poison anyone. The people 'spraying' and ordering the spraying have to live here too. They'd essentially be making themselves and family sick in the process. I could be wrong though.

What I think might be going on has more to do with with weather manipulation and radar chaffing. There are chemicals, minerals, and forms of carbon used in cloud seeding that can cause negative health effects. Some of the ingredients are Silver iodide, Solid carbon dioxide, liquid propane, and salt. I'm not sure what type of salt though.

Chaffing is done typically to throw off radar, but has been used in some SOS cases. Chaff itself is made up of little bits of thin aluminum, metalized glass fibers, plastics, and even little bits of paper with these tiny fibers embedded. I'm not sure how fine it is, but it may pose a health risk to civilians. I also think it may explain the strange 'morgellons' phenomena that some people describe. Check out the video below. A news meteorologist informs the public a little on Chaffing. Forward it to 1:09 if you'd like to get right to the material.

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Re: the chemtrails issue 25 May 2012 13:10 #6

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Nice post mrindigo.

I've definitely seen enough to not just dismiss the issue as 'silly' and imo, this is certainly something that is happening.

I think there is enough evidence out there (as well as the stuff I've seen with my own eyes) to suggest such and I don't think it ridiculous at all that people want to talk about it, at the very least.

Goodness only knows, we wouldn't ever be "told" they were doing it, if they were, would we? It is well documented that populations have been experimented on for a great many years in similar ways, so it really wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 28 May 2012 21:03 #7

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They've admitted spraying people for experimentation in the UK in the 70s from planes. They zig zag here in the morning, then the whole area goes grey in the afternoon. I've read that contrails form over 10,000 feet. The ones, that hang for hours at low levels I believe are chemtrails.

I've seen evidence of the chaff that falls in America and read many reports about people getting sick. I'm no fool, I don't know what their motivations are exactly and no one does but it's not good. Many people have been getting sick here too, with strange coughs etc.. and these are people who've never had hay fever before.

An inteview on Red Ice a while back, they interviewee had researched the flight paths and logged all the planes going over. There were found to be a huge number of 'unknowns'. This shouldn't have been.

I'm sorry but I've been seeing this stuff for years and it's horrendous here where I am. It's in our faces. I cannot be skeptical about this situation.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 28 May 2012 21:10 #8

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icke_is_right wrote:
They've admitted spraying people for experimentation in the UK in the 70s from planes. They zig zag here in the morning, then the whole area goes grey in the afternoon. I've read that contrails form over 10,000 feet. The ones, that hang for hours at low levels I believe are chemtrails.

I've seen evidence of the chaff that falls in America and read many reports about people getting sick. I'm no fool, I don't know what their motivations are exactly and no one does but it's not good. Many people have been getting sick here too, with strange coughs etc.. and these are people who've never had hay fever before.

An inteview on Red Ice a while back, they interviewee had researched the flight paths and logged all the planes going over. There were found to be a huge number of 'unknowns'. This shouldn't have been.

I'm sorry but I've been seeing this stuff for years and it's horrendous here where I am. It's in our faces. I cannot be skeptical about this situation.

Was in Yorkshire last year, nowhere near the flight path for any major airports. Coming from Heathrow I noticed the difference in the skies and even remarked on it to the people I was staying with. They confirmed planes don't fly there usually. A week later I awoke early in the morning and noticed that they were flying on this particular day, big-time.

I watched them zig-zag the sky all through the morning until what had started out as a clear blue sky in the morning (as it had been all week) turned into a grey blanket. They even did the familiar 'criss-cross' thing that you see in so many vids, like they were weaving.

Definitely something afoot. And you can bet your arse it's not for 'our' benefit.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 28 May 2012 21:21 #9

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If there were anything untowards happening to the people on the ground one faction that could throw light onto it would be the Soil Association, If there were anything in the soil that was not up to their standards they would find it.

On the other hand I think that any airborne additives could being done to control food by seed germination, the could easily design a genus of GM plants that could withstand being contaminated leaving organic naturals vunerable.

They could eventually blame it on pollution and through the carbon act, remember if you control the food you control the whole planet.
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Last Edit: 28 May 2012 21:25 by The Apprentice.
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Re: the chemtrails issue 29 May 2012 09:23 #10

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icke_is_right wrote:
They've admitted spraying people for experimentation in the UK in the 70s from planes. They zig zag here in the morning, then the whole area goes grey in the afternoon. I've read that contrails form over 10,000 feet. The ones, that hang for hours at low levels I believe are chemtrails.

I've seen evidence of the chaff that falls in America and read many reports about people getting sick. I'm no fool, I don't know what their motivations are exactly and no one does but it's not good. Many people have been getting sick here too, with strange coughs etc.. and these are people who've never had hay fever before.

An inteview on Red Ice a while back, they interviewee had researched the flight paths and logged all the planes going over. There were found to be a huge number of 'unknowns'. This shouldn't have been.

I'm sorry but I've been seeing this stuff for years and it's horrendous here where I am. It's in our faces. I cannot be skeptical about this situation.

Was in Yorkshire last year, nowhere near the flight path for any major airports. Coming from Heathrow I noticed the difference in the skies and even remarked on it to the people I was staying with. They confirmed planes don't fly there usually. A week later I awoke early in the morning and noticed that they were flying on this particular day, big-time.

I watched them zig-zag the sky all through the morning until what had started out as a clear blue sky in the morning (as it had been all week) turned into a grey blanket. They even did the familiar 'criss-cross' thing that you see in so many vids, like they were weaving.

Definitely something afoot. And you can bet your arse it's not for 'our' benefit.

Yes it's exactly the same here here. It goes on at the other side of the city at very low level and then comes over to cover the whole place, later in the day, causing the sunshine to disappear. There is one very minor airport nearby, but the other side of the town. These trails are literally cris crossed at low level and hang. It was actually a friend who I introduced to conspiracy theory, who alerted me to this situation. Of course I was used to seeing what I thought were chemtrails but these were even worse. He went nuts when he found out and I had to calm him down. In fact, I said not to worry and don't exaggerate, until I visited his home on mornings after the trails were put in place. Even I was rather taken aback. Before, I thought that he was exaggerating because he was new the the subject and just a bit panicky.
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