No proof of his innocence? Of course there are spies of all religions and races . But since this guy is Jewish, the Chinese are "Anti-Semites", say the 'Anti-Szechuans'...
You were trying to promote the idea that Sidney Rittenberg had influence over the Chinese government when it is plainly incorrect if he was locked up in prison by them for 16 years.Are you saying people known as Jews can't visit other countries and talk with people only Christians or non Jews can visit other countries and join political groups?
....So all the people who are Jews are part of the NWO it's got to be in the simplistic minds of jew hater's.
In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of 'justice and peace.
Excerpt from article entitled "New World Order Pledged to Jews," in The New York Times (October 1940)humanspirit wrote:
Bolshevictim doesn’t mention that Sidney Rittenberg was actually imprisoned by the Chinese for a total of sixteen years ffs.
No proof of his innocence? Of course there are spies of all religions and races . But since this guy is Jewish, the Chinese are "Anti-Semites", say the 'Anti-Szechuans'...
Your theory on Bolshevism being a jewish conspirscy was false as you couln't answer the points raise in my post.
( The bolded part)In other words you think it's got to be the jews and peddle the same BS promoted by the right wing in America
The persistence with which the Jewish-conspiracy myth has been pushed suggests that it may well be a deliberate device to divert attention from the real issues and the real causes. The evidence provided in this book suggests that the New York bankers who were also Jewish had relatively minor roles in supporting the Bolsheviks, while the New York bankers who were also Gentiles (Morgan, Rockefeller, Thompson) had major roles.
What better way to divert attention from the real operators than by the medieval bogeyman of anti-Semitism?
No proof of his innocence? Of course there are spies of all religions and races . But since this guy is Jewish, the Chinese are "Anti-Semites", say the 'Anti-Szechuans'...
You were trying to promote the idea that Sidney Rittenberg had influence over the Chinese government when it is plainly incorrect if he was locked up in prison by them for 16 years.Are you saying people known as Jews can't visit other countries and talk with people only Christians or non Jews can visit other countries and join political groups?
I wasn't trying to prove he had influence over the Chinese Gov't. But you have proven my point that he was a disingenuous,two-faced, backstabbing Jew.
Boots wrote:
Your theory on Bolshevism being a jewish conspirscy was false as you couln’t answer the points raise in my post.
( The bolded part)In other words you think it’s got to be the jews and peddle the same BS promoted by the right wing in America
Quote Anthony Sutton.
I thought this thread was about Jews having control of the media. I'm sure you know all about America and can make profound sweeping stereotypes. Although I have no idea what you are talking about as the American "right wing" is a Pro-Israel ,Zionist war machine. Bolshevictim wrote:
"Quick, Look over here!"
If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?
You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.
Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.
But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.
We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to the unexplored ends of the earth.
Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage......... A Real Case Against the Jews One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt
by Marcus Eli Ravage
BTW, Jews still control the media, at least in the U.S. anyway.
Back in 1983, approximately 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the United States. Today, ownership of the news media has been concentrated in the hands of just six incredibly powerful media corporations. These corporate behemoths control most of what we watch, hear and read every single day.
The six corporations that collectively control U.S. media today are Time Warner, Walt Disney, Viacom, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., CBS Corporation and NBC Universal. Together, the "big six" absolutely dominate news and entertainment in the United States. They own television networks, cable channels, movie studios, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, music labels and even many popular websites.
Of the twelve(12) senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations, 9-10 are Jews and/or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 75% at its minimum. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations by a factor of at least 37.5 times(3,750 percent).
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We Jews are a funny breed. We love to brag about every Jewish actor. Sometimes we even pretend an actor is Jewish just because we like him enough that we think he deserves to be on our team. We brag about Jewish authors, Jewish politicians, Jewish directors. Every time someone mentions any movie or book or piece of art, we inevitably say something like, “Did you know that he was Jewish?” That’s just how we roll.
We’re a driven group, and not just in regards to the art world. We have, for example, AIPAC, which was essentially constructed just to drive agenda in Washington DC. And it succeeds admirably. And we brag about it. Again, it’s just what we do.
But the funny part is when any anti-Semite or anti-Israel person starts to spout stuff like, “The Jews control the media!” and “The Jews control Washington!”
Im Jewish yet not allowed to run the media.
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Your theory on Bolshevism being a jewish conspirscy was false as you couln’t answer the points raise in my post.
( The bolded part)In other words you think it’s got to be the jews and peddle the same BS promoted by the right wing in America
Quote Anthony Sutton.
Bolshevictim wrote:
I thought this thread was about Jews having control of the media. I'm sure you know all about America and can make profound sweeping stereotypes. Although I have no idea what you are talking about as the American "right wing" is a Pro-Israel ,Zionist war machine.
LMAO, the thread started that way yet it was YOU who first posted that the Bolsheviks revolution was a jewish one, then when faced with logic an reason which showed that it was NOT a Jewish conspiracy you back peddle and use a strawman argument.
Of course you have no idea what is being said for your mind is a closed shop which will only focus on what you want to believe is the truth, not what the actual truth is in regards to this matter.
What is also telling is your limited knowledge of the meaning of Zionism, calling a 'jewish plot' only reinforces the typical CT view that everything is related to a spy novel in CT understanding of how this world works.
Your use of the bacon emoticon only emphasizes your xenophobia. That is a racist view, I couldn't careless if you want to play semantics, your intentions are clear, you have singled out a group of people.Bolshevictim wrote:
"Quick, Look over here!"
If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?
You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.
Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.
But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.
We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to the unexplored ends of the earth.
Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage......... A Real Case Against the Jews One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt
by Marcus Eli Ravage
This so called article was written in 1928, it is no surprise a psy_op's was in place against jew's prior to the rise of the Nazi party.Bolshevictim wrote:
BTW, Jews still control the media, at least in the U.S. anyway.
Back in 1983, approximately 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the United States. Today, ownership of the news media has been concentrated in the hands of just six incredibly powerful media corporations. These corporate behemoths control most of what we watch, hear and read every single day.
The six corporations that collectively control U.S. media today are Time Warner, Walt Disney, Viacom, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., CBS Corporation and NBC Universal. Together, the "big six" absolutely dominate news and entertainment in the United States. They own television networks, cable channels, movie studios, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, music labels and even many popular websites.
Of the twelve(12) senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations, 9-10 are Jews and/or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 75% at its minimum. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population. Therefore Jews are over-represented among the senior executives of the “Big Six” media corporations by a factor of at least 37.5 times(3,750 percent).
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For starter's Rupert Murdoch is a Catholic and his mother is NOT jewish not that that matter's anyway. CNN is owned by Ted Turn who supports Mitt Romney who is a Mormon and Turner is an Evangelical of the Lutheran Church in America, the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod and the United Methodist Church.
The other's quoted in your link try and makeout they are jew's even if they are not, suggesting it is so because their spouse is jewish, you also fail miserably to prove that these executives actually attend a synagogue and are orthodox jews who believe in religious Zionism.
Coming up with the canard that Christianity is the Torah doesn't cut the mustard.
I don't know about the rest of the families. I say if they are the most powerful. And if not, they are at least in the top 2 0r 3. And their experience and expertise guarantees that they remain very useful to the cabal no matter what.
There are more than 8 banking families LOL. :p
Have you any idea whats going on in asia? Who the families are there?
Too much of this narrow conspiracy crap and not enough hard evidence mate.
Admit it, it just aint there is it?
I've seen threads go on and on and on at DIF talking about the rothschilds and like I say, not 1 hard bit of evidence about financial wealth.
You're either deliberately refusing to accept any info, or you really can't see the forest for the trees. There is a lot of good evidence in this thread; if it doesn't fit your parameters of what good evidence is, then that's pretty much the end of the discussion as far as you go. The Rothschild family sits at or near the top , the very top, of the banking cabal. World wide.
There are a ton of subsidiaries and other families below them, but we're talking about the Rothschilds specifically, and there is a lot more than "narrow conspiracy crap" to support the assertation that they are money masters. You should learn how usury truly works, and who truly benefits from controlling the massive wealth of others. Therein is where their power lies.
Rothschild’$ Exposed: $500 Trillion Worth Includes: Bank of England, Reuters News, Associated Press, ABC,CBS, NBC, CNBC, CNN, Royal Dutch SHELL, Israel, Federal Reserve, US/UK Governments, CIA, NATO,
So you see, from just a few different sources we get 20 billion, 1.5 trillion, and a figure that shows the assets under their control total around half a quadrillion dollars..... to be fair andy, you really can't dispute or disprove any of this, you have no evidence to the contrary. You're asking for proof, and I assume you mean that you want to see it in a publication like Forbes magazine, or the Daily Mail before you'll believe it? Please note; the Rothschilds aren't going to disclose any truth to you or I at any time in the near future, we have no choice but to look at different sources for this info and try to draw our own conclusions. David Icke isn't the only one talking about the extent of their power and influence. He may be the only one saying that they are shape shifting reptilians though. If you get a chance, watch the House of Rothschild, a campy little piece of propaganda in the guise of a movie that was released in the 1930's. Here's the whole film; they're the good guys wo come out on top and control everything.
Of course their paw prints are all over Hollywood and the entertainment business too.
Unfortunately yet more conspiracy crap with no solid evidence Ron.
There is no evidence in this thread that shows they are of this 'quadrillions' of wealth. Is there even 'quadrillions' of wealth on the planet?
Come on ffs....
A video does not comprise hard evidence nor does links to icke/pplanet/rense etc.
I need to see corporations he owns controlling shareholding interests in and pre-tax profits on their own websites.
Until you can...you fail basically.
I said quadrillions, because 500 trillion is exactly that -- half a quadrillion. I don't make these websites, nor do I come up with the conflicting info about them in mainstream publications either. Just posting info that shows different things about what they are worth. Evelyn's assets were listed publicly, I say publicly when Lehman Bros was purchased, and they were listed as 1.5 trillion. His personal bank account is at 20 or 26 billion, and "celebritynetworth" is a mainstream source. You want to see tax statements and things like that? That's ridiculous. You'd then request a written statement from a certified accountant with a notarized seal, I'm sure. I don't require too much more evidence about the Rothschild's myself, I suggest you do your own research actually, it's always much better when we make discoveries and see truth ourselves. Use your own discernment. BTW, you haven't offered up anything to suggest they aren't the most powerful family......
For the person who was confused about the quotes made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, and his grandson, they go like this;
"Give me control over a nation's currency, and I care not who makes it's laws" is by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the patriarch, who first changed the familly name from Bauer to Rothschild. "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply." was by Nathan Rothschild, Mayer's son. "Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." was said by
Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild in 1912, and it echoes the original quote by Mayer from years before. They used to own Rio Tinto.... that's almost a "nuff said" right there.
@ dawnbreak.... what can I say? I know the House of Rothschild was made in 1934..... the point was, they've been doing the family propaganda for a long time, it wasn't about when it was made or any of that. OK? Nevermind.....
The Rothschilds used to be very out front, very arrogant, and very sure of themselves as seen in the above quotes by family members. Up until the conclusion of WW2, they were the pre-eminent banking family. They seem to have settled to an "advisory" role in todays financial world, so maybe they could update their quote to "Give me advisory control over the worlds currency, and I care not who pretends to administer it." Lets have Young Nat Rothschild have that one if he wants to.
The Rothschild's power and influence can not really be denied. The Windsors swing a really big stick because they own the land, most of it. There's another quote that needs to be updated too... "The sun never sets on the British Empire" needs to be " The sun never sets on the Windsor's empire". It has nothing to do with anyone else in Britain.
BTW, in North America at least, the media is certainly largely controlled by Jewish surnames. This is not hatred or "anti Semitic", it's true. It's just the way it is. Exposing the Rothschilds has nothing to do with "anti Semitic" either. If someone blanket states something like "All Jews are evil.." etc, that's dumb. But we should be able to speak freely about folks doing wrong in the world regardless of their professed religion, or their ethnic background. The reason these things were never resolved at the DIF, is because two sides would appear, the "If you speak badly of Jewish people, you are anti semitic and hateful" opposing the " All Jews are evil" side. In the middle of that, there is discussion about who is up to no good regardless of what their last name is, and about atrocities in Israel as well as other parts of the world. No one should be exempted from exposure in this sense regardless of what propaganda they hide behind.
"Though the rules of the road have been lodged, it's only people's games you've got to dodge.."
So you see, from just a few different sources we get 20 billion, 1.5 trillion, and a figure that shows the assets under their control total around half a quadrillion dollars..... to be fair andy, you really can't dispute or disprove any of this, you have no evidence to the contrary. You're asking for proof, and I assume you mean that you want to see it in a publication like Forbes magazine, or the Daily Mail before you'll believe it? Please note; the Rothschilds aren't going to disclose any truth to you or I at any time in the near future, we have no choice but to look at different sources for this info and try to draw our own conclusions. David Icke isn't the only one talking about the extent of their power and influence. He may be the only one saying that they are shape shifting reptilians though. If you get a chance, watch the House of Rothschild, a campy little piece of propaganda in the guise of a movie that was released in the 1930's. Here's the whole film; they're the good guys wo come out on top and control everything.
I said quadrillions, because 500 trillion is exactly that -- half a quadrillion. I don't make these websites, nor do I come up with the conflicting info about them in mainstream publications either. Just posting info that shows different things about what they are worth. Evelyn's assets were listed publicly, I say publicly when Lehman Bros was purchased, and they were listed as 1.5 trillion. His personal bank account is at 20 or 26 billion, and "celebritynetworth" is a mainstream source. You want to see tax statements and things like that? That's ridiculous. You'd then request a written statement from a certified accountant with a notarized seal, I'm sure. I don't require too much more evidence about the Rothschild's myself, I suggest you do your own research actually, it's always much better when me make discoveries and see truth ourselves. Use your own discernment. BTW, you haven't offered up anything to suggest they aren't the most powerful family......
For the person who was confused about the quotes made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, and his grandson, they go like this;
"Give me control over a nation's currency, and I care not who makes it's laws" is by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the patriarch, who first changed the familly name from Bauer to Rothschild. "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply." was by Nathan Rothschild, Mayer's son. "Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." was said by
Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild in 1912, and it echoes the original quote by Mayer from years before. They used to own Rio Tinto.... that's almost a "nuff said" right there.
@ dawnbreak.... what can I say? I know the House of Rothschild was mnade in 1934..... the point was, they've been doing the family propaganda for a long time, it wasn't about when it was made or any of that. OK? Nevermind.....
The Rothschilds used to be very out front, very arrogant, and very sure of themselves as seen in the above quotes by family members. Up until the conclusion of WW2, they were the preeminent banking family. They seem to have settled to an "advisory" role in todays financial world, so maybe they could update their quote to "Give me advisory control over the worlds currency, and I care not who pretends to administer it." Lets have Young Nat Rothschild have that one if he wants to.
The Rothschilds power and influence can not really be denied. The Windsor's swing a really big stick because they own the land, most of it. There's a nother quote that needs to be updated too... "The sun never sets on the British Empire" needs to be " The sun never sets on the Windsors empire". It has nothing to do with anyone else in Britain.
BTW, in North America at least, the media is certainly largely controlled by Jewish surnames. This is not hatred or "anti Semitic", it's true. It's just the way it is. Exposing the Rothschilds has nothing to do with "anti Semitic" either. If someone blanket states something like "All Jews are evil.." etc, that's dumb. But we should be able to speak freely about folks doing wrong in the world regardless of their professed religion, or their ethnic background. The reason these things were never resolved at the DIF, is because two sides would appear, the "If you speak badly of Jewish people, you are anti semitic and hateful" opposing the " Al Jews are evil" side. In the middle of that, there is discussion about who is up to no good regardless of what their last name is, and about atrocities in Israel as well as other parts of the world. No one should be exempted from exposure in this sense regardless of what propaganda they hide behind.
He owns only a small handful of corporations which do have published accounts, its the law you know
The published pre-tax profits are nowehere near the rumoured amounts.
He has a bit of real estate worth a few billion too.
The only person with any real measurable wealth in the trillions is queenie
It should be self evident that its impossible for anyone to have financial wealth measured as 500 trillion when its greater than the global GDP
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
So you see, from just a few different sources we get 20 billion, 1.5 trillion, and a figure that shows the assets under their control total around half a quadrillion dollars..... to be fair andy, you really can't dispute or disprove any of this, you have no evidence to the contrary. You're asking for proof, and I assume you mean that you want to see it in a publication like Forbes magazine, or the Daily Mail before you'll believe it? Please note; the Rothschilds aren't going to disclose any truth to you or I at any time in the near future, we have no choice but to look at different sources for this info and try to draw our own conclusions. David Icke isn't the only one talking about the extent of their power and influence. He may be the only one saying that they are shape shifting reptilians though. If you get a chance, watch the House of Rothschild, a campy little piece of propaganda in the guise of a movie that was released in the 1930's. Here's the whole film; they're the good guys wo come out on top and control everything.
I said quadrillions, because 500 trillion is exactly that -- half a quadrillion. I don't make these websites, nor do I come up with the conflicting info about them in mainstream publications either. Just posting info that shows different things about what they are worth. Evelyn's assets were listed publicly, I say publicly when Lehman Bros was purchased, and they were listed as 1.5 trillion. His personal bank account is at 20 or 26 billion, and "celebritynetworth" is a mainstream source. You want to see tax statements and things like that? That's ridiculous. You'd then request a written statement from a certified accountant with a notarized seal, I'm sure. I don't require too much more evidence about the Rothschild's myself, I suggest you do your own research actually, it's always much better when me make discoveries and see truth ourselves. Use your own discernment. BTW, you haven't offered up anything to suggest they aren't the most powerful family......
For the person who was confused about the quotes made by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, and his grandson, they go like this;
"Give me control over a nation's currency, and I care not who makes it's laws" is by Mayer Amschel Rothschild, the patriarch, who first changed the familly name from Bauer to Rothschild. "I care not what puppet is placed on the throne of England to rule the Empire. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire and I control the British money supply." was by Nathan Rothschild, Mayer's son. "Give me the control of the credit of a nation, and I care not who makes the laws." was said by
Nathaniel Meyer Rothschild in 1912, and it echoes the original quote by Mayer from years before. They used to own Rio Tinto.... that's almost a "nuff said" right there.
@ dawnbreak.... what can I say? I know the House of Rothschild was mnade in 1934..... the point was, they've been doing the family propaganda for a long time, it wasn't about when it was made or any of that. OK? Nevermind.....
The Rothschilds used to be very out front, very arrogant, and very sure of themselves as seen in the above quotes by family members. Up until the conclusion of WW2, they were the preeminent banking family. They seem to have settled to an "advisory" role in todays financial world, so maybe they could update their quote to "Give me advisory control over the worlds currency, and I care not who pretends to administer it." Lets have Young Nat Rothschild have that one if he wants to.
The Rothschilds power and influence can not really be denied. The Windsor's swing a really big stick because they own the land, most of it. There's a nother quote that needs to be updated too... "The sun never sets on the British Empire" needs to be " The sun never sets on the Windsors empire". It has nothing to do with anyone else in Britain.
BTW, in North America at least, the media is certainly largely controlled by Jewish surnames. This is not hatred or "anti Semitic", it's true. It's just the way it is. Exposing the Rothschilds has nothing to do with "anti Semitic" either. If someone blanket states something like "All Jews are evil.." etc, that's dumb. But we should be able to speak freely about folks doing wrong in the world regardless of their professed religion, or their ethnic background. The reason these things were never resolved at the DIF, is because two sides would appear, the "If you speak badly of Jewish people, you are anti semitic and hateful" opposing the " Al Jews are evil" side. In the middle of that, there is discussion about who is up to no good regardless of what their last name is, and about atrocities in Israel as well as other parts of the world. No one should be exempted from exposure in this sense regardless of what propaganda they hide behind.
He owns only a small handful of corporations which do have published accounts, its the law you know
The published pre-tax profits are nowehere near the rumoured amounts.
He has a bit of real estate worth a few billion too.
The only person with any real measurable wealth in the trillions is queenie
It should be self evident that its impossible for anyone to have financial wealth measured as 500 trillion when its greater than the global GDP
Oh stop.... there are less wealthy and connected people out there who can hide their assets too. There are people who deal weed who can disguise their earnings and cover their "expenditures". As I said, it appears the Rothschilds have moved out of outright ownership, and now "adivise" a list of corporations ..... who are run by people they used to employ. Dick Cheney of course relinquished all his controlling interest in Halliburton oil when he took office in 2000, as did Dubya and Condoleeza Rice... right? All the leading politicians disclose everything they own, and relinquish control of these assets when they take office, right? Of course they go right back to those positions after their terms are up, and would never think to do things while in office to further any outside interests......
"Though the rules of the road have been lodged, it's only people's games you've got to dodge.."
No proof of his innocence? Of course there are spies of all religions and races . But since this guy is Jewish, the Chinese are "Anti-Semites", say the 'Anti-Szechuans'...
You were trying to promote the idea that Sidney Rittenberg had influence over the Chinese government when it is plainly incorrect if he was locked up in prison by them for 16 years.Are you saying people known as Jews can't visit other countries and talk with people only Christians or non Jews can visit other countries and join political groups?
I wasn't trying to prove he had influence over the Chinese Gov't. But you have proven my point that he was a disingenuous,two-faced, backstabbing Jew.
How have i proven that Sidney Rittenberg was disingenuous?
What was your point if not to try and show Sidney Rittenberg had influence in China?
The Jesuits were in China way before the Jewish people you mentioned so what impact did they have?
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Re: jews do control the media
15 Jul 2012 15:46 #191
Government is simply a conspiracy against a nation!
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He owns only a small handful of corporations which do have published accounts, its the law you know
The published pre-tax profits are nowehere near the rumoured amounts.
He has a bit of real estate worth a few billion too.
The only person with any real measurable wealth in the trillions is queenie
It should be self evident that its impossible for anyone to have financial wealth measured as 500 trillion when its greater than the global GDP
Astonishing statements of fact! How about the trusts that they have control of? What about the institutions they have control of? Any assumption that their true wealth is a matter of public record is highly questionable. The financial system and the values banded about are pure fiction and bear no relationship to the real value of GDP's or tangible assets. The futures markets are going to blow any such notions out of the water when the real effects of these fictitious financial claims are exposed. The precious metals markets are also built on paper transactions, which bear no relevance to the physical quantities of raw materials. The whole financial and value system is built on a steaming pile of BS. The only thing that seems to be inexhaustible is the quantity of BS which is building up unabated.
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Re: jews do control the media
15 Jul 2012 17:36 #192
He owns only a small handful of corporations which do have published accounts, its the law you know
The published pre-tax profits are nowehere near the rumoured amounts.
He has a bit of real estate worth a few billion too.
The only person with any real measurable wealth in the trillions is queenie
It should be self evident that its impossible for anyone to have financial wealth measured as 500 trillion when its greater than the global GDP
Astonishing statements of fact! How about the trusts that they have control of? What about the institutions they have control of? Any assumption that their true wealth is a matter of public record is highly questionable. The financial system and the values banded about are pure fiction and bear no relationship to the real value of GDP's or tangible assets. The futures markets are going to blow any such notions out of the water when the real effects of these fictitious financial claims are exposed. The precious metals markets are also built on paper transactions, which bear no relevance to the physical quantities of raw materials. The whole financial and value system is built on a steaming pile of BS. The only thing that seems to be inexhaustible is the quantity of BS which is building up unabated.
Om nom nom
Financial wealth != tangible wealth.
Global GDP != 500 trillion.
It doesn't take Einstein to see how this whole conspiracy stuff goes... for an argument to be valid you must first of all use some very precise language that makes sense.
Now either this Rothschild fella has some assets we can see or he doesn't.
Hiding 500 trillion would be kinda difficult...seeing as you could errr...buy the fucking planet with it. Unless ofc it wasn't 'real' as in not tangible as in not gold, silver or land.
The federal reserve has an infinite amount of money but no-one seems to make a big deal about it tbh...and the reasoning behind that is quite simple and there's no conspiracy as such attached to it.
So again-
Oh stop.… there are less wealthy and connected people out there who can hide their assets too. There are people who deal weed who can disguise their earnings and cover their “expenditures”. As I said, it appears the Rothschilds have moved out of outright ownership, and now “adivise” a list of corporations .…. who are run by people they used to employ. Dick Cheney of course relinquished all his controlling interest in Halliburton oil when he took office in 2000, as did Dubya and Condoleeza Rice… right? All the leading politicians disclose everything they own, and relinquish control of these assets when they take office, right? Of course they go right back to those positions after their terms are up, and would never think to do things while in office to further any outside interests.…..
Just how the fuck do you hide 7 or 8 times the entire global GDP hmm?
If its derivatives you mean then SAY SO, don't make such incredible assertions without evidence, this is what pissed off hadabusa and tbh the lad makes sense.
It is OK to say 'such and such a guy thinks that maybe...etc' but jesus to say that the rothschilds DEFINITELY have 500 trillion ffs spare me God
There is no bloody evidence for such a thing, nor will there ever be unless you want to have a chat with his accountant lol.
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Re: jews do control the media
16 Jul 2012 00:14 #196
Almost all important NYSE listed companies, the banks, military industrial, monsanto, have Blackrock Inc and vanguard as major institutional holders...its a common theme.
Now those corporations...who owns the stock in them, well its difficult to know. But i do think wealth is hidden with these institutions.
It came out for example that dick cheney had about 80 million of vanguard holdings, and it tied into them privatising prisons (vanguard owned)
I have read similar about obama...now im not sure about the reports on who owns what (i think the cheney ones were credible MSM sources though)
but i have looked at the stocks and most of the corps are interlinked with blackrock and vanguard being a common denominator, along with state street to a lesser extent.
who has holdings in all of them, who knows. The blackrock and vanguard information isnt public access to my knowlege, since they are not listed as 'stocks' on the NYSE, they are listed as other corporate structures.
He owns only a small handful of corporations which do have published accounts, its the law you know
The published pre-tax profits are nowehere near the rumoured amounts.
He has a bit of real estate worth a few billion too.
The only person with any real measurable wealth in the trillions is queenie
It should be self evident that its impossible for anyone to have financial wealth measured as 500 trillion when its greater than the global GDP
Astonishing statements of fact! How about the trusts that they have control of? What about the institutions they have control of? Any assumption that their true wealth is a matter of public record is highly questionable. The financial system and the values banded about are pure fiction and bear no relationship to the real value of GDP's or tangible assets. The futures markets are going to blow any such notions out of the water when the real effects of these fictitious financial claims are exposed. The precious metals markets are also built on paper transactions, which bear no relevance to the physical quantities of raw materials. The whole financial and value system is built on a steaming pile of BS. The only thing that seems to be inexhaustible is the quantity of BS which is building up unabated.
Om nom nom
Financial wealth != tangible wealth.
Global GDP != 500 trillion.
It doesn't take Einstein to see how this whole conspiracy stuff goes... for an argument to be valid you must first of all use some very precise language that makes sense.
Now either this Rothschild fella has some assets we can see or he doesn't.
Hiding 500 trillion would be kinda difficult...seeing as you could errr...buy the fucking planet with it. Unless ofc it wasn't 'real' as in not tangible as in not gold, silver or land.
The federal reserve has an infinite amount of money but no-one seems to make a big deal about it tbh...and the reasoning behind that is quite simple and there's no conspiracy as such attached to it.
So again-
Oh stop.… there are less wealthy and connected people out there who can hide their assets too. There are people who deal weed who can disguise their earnings and cover their “expenditures”. As I said, it appears the Rothschilds have moved out of outright ownership, and now “adivise” a list of corporations .…. who are run by people they used to employ. Dick Cheney of course relinquished all his controlling interest in Halliburton oil when he took office in 2000, as did Dubya and Condoleeza Rice… right? All the leading politicians disclose everything they own, and relinquish control of these assets when they take office, right? Of course they go right back to those positions after their terms are up, and would never think to do things while in office to further any outside interests.…..
Just how the fuck do you hide 7 or 8 times the entire global GDP hmm?
If its derivatives you mean then SAY SO, don't make such incredible assertions without evidence, this is what pissed off hadabusa and tbh the lad makes sense.
It is OK to say 'such and such a guy thinks that maybe...etc' but jesus to say that the rothschilds DEFINITELY have 500 trillion ffs spare me God
There is no bloody evidence for such a thing, nor will there ever be unless you want to have a chat with his accountant lol.
Ultimately andy, my assertion is that the Rothschilds are the most powerful banking family in the world. The fact that someone can not find a true gauge of their wealth speaks volumes. It's not a conspiracy, they themselves say who and what they are, and exactly what their intentions are/were. To control the currency of nations so as to control those nations. Exact figures, tax statements, etc, mean nothing at that level of .... not wealth, ownership. I honestly don't think they measure their wealth or influence in terms of "currency". When you control the money flow of everyone else, what is the point in having cash anyway? They take what they want. They just absorb things, nations, businesses, banking institutions. It is their model of usury, their redefinition of something started with the de Medici's, that is in play today. You can find their name all over the biggest institutions in the world and that has been the case for 200 years. You can see some of their recent former employees at the heads of finance, politics, and military.
All dynasties come to an end. history shows us that and it's a fact that the Rothschilds are well aware of. They've apparently engineered their own recession into the background, they're now a modestly wealthy, multigenerational financial force that simply advises people on what to do with the money. The motto of the Fed banks and the engineers of our recessions and financial collapse might as well be the same as MA Rothschild. It's no coincidence.
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Re: jews do control the media
16 Jul 2012 14:15 #199
Anyway, how about we change the title to" some media moguls with large influence on mass media also happen to be jewish ".
Or can I start a thread entitled "White Gentiles Own ALL the Crowns, Thrones and Palaces and Wield Enormous Unelected Political Power"??
Good one. Or, "Some very powerful Jewish people seem to control the media" . Blanket statements are BS. gremlin figures he's scoring points with : with these hit and run threads. He'll probably be a mod soon.
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Re: jews do control the media
16 Jul 2012 14:23 #200
Ultimately andy, my assertion is that the Rothschilds are the most powerful banking family in the world. The fact that someone can not find a true gauge of their wealth speaks volumes. It's not a conspiracy, they themselves say who and what they are, and exactly what their intentions are/were. To control the currency of nations so as to control those nations. Exact figures, tax statements, etc, mean nothing at that level of .... not wealth, ownership. I honestly don't think they measure their wealth or influence in terms of "currency". When you control the money flow of everyone else, what is the point in having cash anyway? They take what they want. They just absorb things, nations, businesses, banking institutions. It is their model of usury, their redefinition of something started with the de Medici's, that is in play today. You can find their name all over the biggest institutions in the world and that has been the case for 200 years. You can see some of their recent former employees at the heads of finance, politics, and military.
All dynasties come to an end. history shows us that and it's a fact that the Rothschilds are well aware of. They've apparently engineered their own recession into the background, they're now a modestly wealthy, multigenerational financial force that simply advises people on what to do with the money. The motto of the Fed banks and the engineers of our recessions and financial collapse might as well be the same as MA Rothschild. It's no coincidence.
'As of March 31, 2012, BlackRock's assets under management total US$3.684 trillion across equity, fixed income, cash management, alternative investment, real estate and advisory strategies. Through BlackRock Solutions® — the natural evolution of our long-standing investment in developing sophisticated and highly integrated systems — we offer risk management, strategic advisory and enterprise investment system services to a broad base of clients with portfolios totaling approximately US$10 trillion.'
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