yeah dothamy but you aso have to look to the Royal family and the vatican to see where all the money actually is .

domathy wrote:
Dawns pretty much on the money there domathy.

The Rothschilds are not only crown agents... hence titles from the royal family. www.thepeerage.com/p19531.htm#i195307

What a Crown agent is in context.
https://american_almanac.tripod.com/agents.htm

The Rothschilds aren't any more jewish than my dog.

This a great read from a guy called buckmarley. the best smackdown I've seen on the rothschild.

Read it here.

letsrollforums.com/rothchilds-papal-roya...0&s=a18d90c59ab34537

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dogsmilk wrote:
The super-rich can never have enough power, even if they outright owned the planet and its population.

i certainly agree power and wealth know no bounds. And so people of that mindset will inevitably compete with other people of that mindset.

domathy wrote:
I haven't watched the vid yet, but it's been in the news they've formed a partnership this year. like
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/efe93494-a9a3-11e1-a6...0.html#axzz20F2SOr9r

that doesn't mean everything the Rockerfellers did over half a century ago was somehow under the direct control of the Rothchilds.
I've never got all this 'bloodlines' stuff - rich people are statistically more likely to breed with other rich people. Not exclusively of course, but people have a general tendency to pair off with people from a comparable social class because that's who they meet, hang out with and can relate to. It would be more surprising if a Rothchild married someone on the dole living in a housing association flat in Salford than a Rockerfeller.

Of course in the past marriage was used to forge and cement political alliances, but that was an overt policy of royalty.

Yeah it's interesting. I can't get my head round thinking there is a global conspiracy. As opposed to a bunch of different wealthy people whose interests intersect and diverge according to what's happening at the time.
If there is, they must be privy to some immense secret - look at any typical office - there'll be people who don't get on with each other, different cliques, people getting on and then falling out. Hell, since we've been discussing the Nazis, if you read about them in depth there were loads of interpersonal conflicts going on in the hierarchy. How normal humans (though there's the lizards I guess if you believe in that stuff) could ever pull together a global conspiracy is beyond me.
And what for? The super rich already control the planet through the existing system - what's there to conspire about?

I can't open those links on my phone, but will take a look when I'm at home later. But you also need to be able to entertain the Idea that super powerful people seeking to play down their influence, might be very 'comfortable' with people writing 'smackdown' articles about them. Especially when there are so many detailed expose books which claim to expose the true extent of their power.

domathy wrote:
domathy, please do check out those links because it is all verifiable. It's not some piece written in the vain of speculation.

dogsmilk wrote:
It's easy to dismiss the idea of a global conspiracy if you get Hung up on the practicalities of everything, but ultimately it boils down to the richest most powerful people on the planet meeting up (bilderberg etc) and discussing ways to make sure they stay at the top. I mean, that qualifies as a global conspiracy right there. But people with power never reach a point where they think hmmm, I think I have enough power today so ill just relax now. They are power addicted control freaks and so it is not hard to imagine that at very least the ultra wealthy banksters have a desire for total control of the planet. Yes they control a lot, but soveriegnty still gets in their way and they need to jump through hoops to get what they want to avoid detection. Yes they already control government, but this whole 'illusion of democracy' is an increasinly tough nut to get people to swallow. Surely global fascism is preferable to these guys? They get what rush want, at a fraction of the effort required and with double the satisfaction of knowing we all know our place at the bottom of the shit heap. So,you must admit, there is plenty of reason why these guys at least want to control the planet for real. And sure, the nazis squabbled, but

domathy wrote:
I think you bring up an interesting point. Let's take the Bilderbergers; Conspiracy theorists say they meet in secret to plot to rule the world. They sat they meet because they can discuss and plan for issues out of the media spotlight and not always be at loggerheads with each other. In different ways, both are correct. The Bilderbergers aren't all the powerful people in the world, but a lot of very powerful people do attend. I think they really believe they think they're doing what's for the best. Because they're arrogant and totally detached from how normal people actually live and because they probably convince themselves what they want is the best way forward for everyone, what they decide will not in reality be for the best of people in general. And they will believe themselves to be special people, ascribing their status to immense talent and wisdom they believe they have - which of course will be delusional. Anything they decide will potentially affect millions of people. So really anything they decide should be open and scrutinised - but they will feel the press bothers them and stops them getting things done. So they do meet to plot to run the world, but they will see it in a different way to conspiracy people. Where conspiracy people lose the plot is superimposing their own belief systems or one's they've internalised from reading conspiracy material - it's a Jewish conspiracy, they're all Satanists, they're planning to destroy the family and make us all gay, they're lizards from outer space etc etc etc. And it's not 'a conspiracy' because they all have slightly different agendas and won't always agree, but it is 'a big conspiracy' because the one thing they all have in common is maintaining the status quo where they have all the wealth and power. Conspiracy people have a tendency to run round shouting The Rothchild Jews from the Synagogue of Satan are planning to kill everyone and put the survivors in multicultural homosexual FEMA camps where they'll be made into transhuman slaves of the New World Order mind controlled by signals broadcast from the moon! and then wonder why 'the sheeple' don't take them seriously. Strip away people's preconceived ideas and it's actually pretty simple - rich and powerful at the top, us at the bottom - so what are we going to do about it? You don't need intricate conspiracy theories based on endless supposition when it's staring you in the face every day. It doesn't make any difference if 'the elite' are Jewish, or worship Satan or are Masons or whatever. All that matters is very few people are running everything. And that remains the same whoever they are. Because it's not the people, it's the system we live under. But we created the system, and we can destroy the system. We only need enough people to stop believing in that system.
And this is where another big error of conspiracy theorists comes into it - too many believe in that system. They believe in money and social inequality and social division - look at the Daily Mail fan club over at the DIF who go on about benefits scroungers. Alex Jones thinks poor people being able to see a doctor is communism while he asks the punters for handouts when he's already a wealthy man running a successful media and retail empire. Chris Everard can't bear the thought anyone might not be paying to see his oh so important revelations and will hound them if they are because he's out of pocket. On and on and on and on if you look at the total bullshit the conspiracy scene stands for - yet an awful lot of everyday conspiracy theorists are decent people who just want a fair and just world.
I think people don't need all this bullshit. I don't think 911 was an inside job, but it doesn't fucking matter. Kennedy was shot in 1963, it's now 2012 and people are still concocting theories about it - if the CIA turned round tomorrow and said ok, it was us, we killed him, it wouldn't change a damn thing. Half of America believes Osawld didn't act alone and there's been a major Hollywood film pushing the conspiracy version - because really it's entertainment and that's all it is. Not to say people shouldn't be interested in such things -they can be interesting - but it's a dead end if you believe it's going to hange the world. People will be discussing 911 theories in 2050 and still getting nowhere except dreaming up ever more outlandish theories, Icke will probably decide Neptune is the moon's battery, Jordan Maxwell will probably decide '"it's a breath of fresh air" is another code phrase for communism and the FEMA camps will still be empty yet another couple of decades after preople were first claiming everyone is about to be put in them.

While all along the "big conspiracy" is simply that rich and powerful people want to stay rich and powerful and they don't mind destroying the environment or people's lives to make that happen. And the only way people ever change anything is by organising among themselves to challenge power. Anyone simply actively campaigning in their local area against cuts is IMO worth 100 Richard Gages.

domathy wrote:
domathy, please do check out those links because it is all verifiable. It's not some piece written in the vain of speculation.

Yeah, its an intersting read Boots, but I don't see anything which proves the Rothschilds don't own our asses. I mean, its like how according to history books, we 'lost' the wars of independance. But it appears that we simply wanted to replace physical occupation with financial occupation (more socially acceptable) and that we set out to lose the wars anyway. I'll have a second read but i just dont see anything conclusive.

Queen Elizabeth controls and has amended U.S. Social Security, as follows:

S.I. 1997 NO.1778 The Social Security ( United States of America) Order 1997 Made 22nd of July 1997 coming into force 1st September 1997. At the Court at Buckingham Palace the 22nd day of July 1997. Now, therefore Her Majesty an pursuance of section 179 (1) (a) and (2) of the Social Security Administration Act of 1992 and all other powers enabling Her in that behalf, is please, by and with advise of Her privy Council, to order, and it is hereby ordered as follows:

"This Order may be cited as the Social Security (United States of America) Order 1997 and shall come into force on 1st September 1997."

Does this give a new meaning to Federal Judge William Wayne Justice stating in court that he takes his orders from England? This order goes on to redefine words in the Social Security Act and makes some changes in United States Law.

Remember, King George was the "Arch-Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire and c, and of the United States of America." See: Treaty of Peace (1738) 8 U.S. Statutes at Large. Great Britain which is the agent for the Pope, is in charge of the USA 'plantation.'

What people do not know is that the so called Founding Fathers and King George were working hand-n-hand to bring the people of America to there knees, to install a Central Government over them and to bind them to a debt that could not be paid. First off you have to understand that the UNITED STATES is a corporation and that it existed before the Revolutionary war. See Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43. 28 U.S.C. 3002 (15)

Now, you also have to realize that King George was not just the King of England, he was also the King of France. Treaty of Peace * U.S. 8 Statutes at Large 80.

On January 22, 1783 Congress ratified a contract for the repayment of 21 loans that the UNITED STATES had already received dating from February 28, 1778 to July 5, 1782. Now the UNITED STATES Inc. owes the King money which is due January 1, 1788 from King George via France. Is this not incredible the King funded both sides of the War. But there was more work that needed to be done. Now the Articles of Confederation which was declared in force March 1, 1781 States in Article 12 " All bills of credit emitted, monies borrowed,and debts contracted by, or under the authority of Congress, before the assembling of the United States, in pursuance of the present confederation, shall be deemed and considered a charge against the United States, for payment and satisfaction whereof the said United States, and the public faith are hereby solemnly pledged."

Now after losing the Revolutionary War, even though the War was nothing more than a move to turn the people into debtors for the King, they were not done yet.

Now the loans were coming due and so a meeting was convened in Annapolis, Maryland, to discuss the economic instability of the country under the Articles of Confederation. Only five States come to the meeting, but there is a call for another meeting to take place in Philadelphia the following year with the express purpose of revising the Articles of Confederation

On February 21, 1787 Congress gave approval of the meeting to take place in Philadelphia on May 14, 1787, to revise the Articles of confederation. Something had to be done about the mounting debt. Little did the people know that the so called founding fathers were acutely going to reorganize the United States because it was Bankrupt.

On September 17, 1787 twelve State delegates approve the Constitution. The States have now become Constitutors. Constitutor: In the civil law, one who, by simple agreement, becomes responsible for the payment of another's debt. Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. The States were now liable for the debt owed to the King, but the people of America were not because they were not a party to the Constitution because it was never put to them for a vote On August 4th, 1790 an Act was passed which was Titled.-An Act making provision for the payment of the Debt of the United States. This can be found at 1 U.S. Statutes at Large pages 138-178. This Act for all intents and purposes abolished the States and Created the Districts. If you don't believe it look it up. The Act set up Federal Districts, here in Pennsylvania we got two. In this Act each District was assigned a portion of the debt. The next step was for the states to reorganize their governments which most did in 1790. This had to be done because the States needed to legally bind the people to the debt.

The original State Constitutions were never submitted to the people for a vote. So the governments wrote new constitutions and submitted them to people for a vote thereby binding the people to the debts owed to Great Britain. The people became citizens of the State where they resided and ipso facto a citizen of the United States. A citizen is a member of a fictional entity and it is synonymous with subject.

What you think is a state is in reality a corporation, in other words, a Person.

"Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is Person." 9 F. Supp 272 "Word "person" does not include state. 12 Op Atty Gen 176.

There are no states, just corporations. Every body politic on this planet is a corporation. A corporation is an artificial entity, a fiction at law. They only exist in your mind. They are images in your mind, that speak to you. We labor, pledge our property and give our children to a fiction.

Now before we go any further let us examine a few things in the Constitution.

Article six section one keeps the loans from the King valid it states; All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

Another interesting tidbit can be found at Article One Section Eight clause Two which states that Congress has the power to borrow money on the credit of the United States. This was needed so the United States (Which went into Bankruptcy on January 1, 1788) could borrow money and then because the States were a party to the Constitution they would also be liable for it.

The next underhanded move was the creation of The United States Bank in 1791. This was a private Bank of which there were 25,000 shares issued of which 18,000 were held by those in England. The Bank loaned the United States money in exchange for Securities of the United States

Now the creditors of the United States which included the King wanted paid the Interest on the loans that were given to the United States. So Alexander Hamilton came up with the great idea of taxing alcohol.The people resisted so George Washington sent out the militia to collect the tax which they did. This has become known as the Whiskey rebellion. It is the Militia's duty to collect taxes. How did the United States collect taxes off of the people if the people are not a party to the Constitution? I'll tell you how. The people are slaves! The United States belongs to the floundering fathers and their posterity and Great Britain. America is nothing more than a Plantation. It always has been. How many times have you seen someone in court attempt to use the Constitution and then the Judge tells him he can't. It is because you are not a party to it. We are SLAVES!!!!!!! If you don't believe read Padelford, Fay & Co. vs. The Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah. 14 Georgia 438, 520 which states " But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution, the Constitution, it is true, is a compact but he is not a party to it."

Now back to the Militia. Just read Article One Section Eight clause (15) which states that it is the militia's job to execute the laws of the Union. Now read Clause (16) Which states that Congress has the power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States.... the Militia is not there to protect you and me, it is their to collect our substance.

As you can plainly see all the Constitution did is set up a Military Government to guard the King's commerce and make us slaves.

If one goes to 8 U.S. statutes at large 116-132 you will find "The Treaty of Amity, Commerce and Navigation. This Treaty was signed on November 19th, 1794 which was twelve years after the War. Article 2 of the Treaty states that the King's Troops were still occupying the United States. Being the nice King that he was , he decided that the troops would return to England by June 1st, 1796. The troops were still on American soil because, quite frankly the King wanted them here.

Here is the key to were this started:

Many people tend to blame the Jews for our problems. Jewish Law governs the entire world, as found in Jewish Law by MENACHEM ELON, DEPUTY PRESIDENT SUPREME COURT OF ISRAEL, to wit:

"Everything in the Babylonian Talmud is binding on all Israel. Every town and country must follow all customs, give effect to the decrees, and carry out the enactment's of the Talmudic sages, because the entire Jewish people accepted everything contained in Talmud. The sages who adopted the enactment's and decrees, instituted the practices, rendered the decisions, and derived the laws, constituted all or most of the Sages of Israel. It is they who received the tradition of the fundamentals of the entire Torah in unbroken succession going back to Moses, our teacher."

We are living under what the Bible calls Mammon. As written in the subject Index, Mammon is defined as ("Civil law and procedure").

Now turn to the "The Shetars Effect on English Law" -- A Law of the Jews Becomes the Law of the Land, found in "The George Town Law Journal, Vol 71: pages 1179-1200." It is clearly stated in the Law Review that the Jews are the property of the Norman and Anglo-Saxon Kings. It also explains that the Talmud is the law of the land. It explains how the Babylonian Talmud became the law of the land, which is now known as the Uniform Commercial Code. The written credit agreement -- the Jewish shetar is a lien on all property (realty) and today it's called the mortgage! The treatise also explains that the Jews are owned by Great Britain and the Jews are in charge of the Baking system. We are living under the Babylonian Talmud, it is were all of our problems come from. It was brought into England in 1066 and has been enforced by the Pope, Kings and the Christian churches ever since. It is total and relentless mind control, people are taught to believe in things that do not exist.

Now before you scream that the UCC is unconstitutional I'm sorry people, you are not a party to any constitution. Read the case cite below.

"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain, by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution. The Constitution it is true, is a compact, but he is not a party to it." Padelford, Fay & Co., vs. Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah 14 Ga. 438, 520

You have to understand that Great Britain,(Article six Section one) the United States and the States are the parties to the Constitution not you. Let me try to explain. If I buy an automobile from a man and that automobile has a warranty and the engine blows up the first day I have it. Then I tell the man just forget about it. Then you come along and tell the man to pay me and he says no. So you take him to court for not holding up the contract. The court then says case dismissed. Why ? Because you are not a party to the contract. You cannot sue a government official for not adhering to a contract (Constitution) that you are not a party too. You better accept the fact that you are a Slave. When you try to use the Constitution you are committing a CRIME known as CRIMINAL TRESPASS. Why ? Because you are attempting to infringe on a private contract that you are not a party to. Then to make matters worse you are a debt slave who owns no property or has any rights. You are a mere user of your Masters property! Here are just a couple of examples:

"The primary control and custody of infant is with the government" Tillman V. Roberts. 108 So. 62

" Marriage is a civil contract to which there are three parties-the husband, the wife and the state." Van Koten v. Van Koten. 154 N.E. 146.

"The ultimate ownership of all property is in the State: individual so-called "ownership" is only by virtue of Government, i.e. law amounting to mere user; and use must be in accordance with law and subordinate to the necessities of the State. Senate Document No. 43 73rd Congress 1st Session. (Brown v. Welch supra) You own no Property because you are a slave. Really you are worse off than a slave because you are also a debtor.

"The right of traffic or the transmission of property, as an absolute inalienable right, is one which has never existed since governments were instituted, and never can exist under government." Wynehamer v. The People. 13 N.Y. Rep.378, 481

Great Britain to this day collects taxes from the American people. The IRS is not an Agency of the United States Government.

All taxpayers have an Individual Master File which is in code. By using IRS Publication 6209, which is over 400 pages, there is a blocking series which shows the taxpayer the type of tax that is being paid. Most taxpayers fall under a 300-399 blocking series, which 6209 states is reserved, but by going to BMF 300-399 which is the Business Master File in 6209 prior to 1991, this was U.S.-U.K. Tax Claims, meaning taxpayers are considered a business and involved in commerce and are held liable for taxes via a treaty between the U.S. and the U.K., payable to the U.K. The form that is supposed to be used for this is form 8288, FIRPTA-Foreign Investment Real Property Tax Account. The 8288 form is in the Law Enforcement Manual of the IRS, chapter 3. The OMB's-paper-Office of Management and Budget, in the Department of Treasury, List of Active Information collections, Approved Under Paperwork Reduction Act is where form 8288 is found under OMB number 1545-0902, which says U.S. with holding tax return for dispositions by foreign persons, of U.S. Form #8288, #8288a.

These codes have since been changed to read as follows: IMF 300-309, Barred Assessment, CP 55 generated valid for MFT-30, which is the code for the 1040 form. IMF 310-399 reads the same as IMF 300-309, BMF 390-399 reads U.S.-U.K. Tax Treaty Claims. Isn't it INCREDIBLE that a 1040 form is a payment of a tax to the U.K. Everybody is always looking to 26 U.S.C. for the law that makes one liable for the so called Income Tax but, it is not in there because it is not a Tax, it is debt collection through a private contract called the Constitution of the United States Article Six, Section One. and various agreements. Is a cow paying an income tax when the machine gets connected to it's udders ? The answer is no. I have never known a cow that owns property or has been compensated for its labor. You own nothing that your labor has ever produced. You don't even own your labor or yourself. Your labor is measured in current credit money. You are allowed to retain a small portion of your labor so that you can have food, clothing shelter and most of all breed more slaves. Did you ever notice how many of the other slaves get upset if you try to retain your labor. You are called an extremist, terrorist and sometimes even a freeman. They say that you are anti-government. When the truth of the matter is you just don;t want to be a slave. But, you do not have the right to force others to be free if they want to be a slave that is entirely up to them. If they want bow down and worship corporations, let them. The United States, Great Britain and the Pope are not the problem, it is the other slaves. We would be free if the want-to-be-slaves were gone. The United States, Great Britain and the Pope would not even exist, because no one would acknowledge them. I for a matter of fact, think that those who are in power are also tired of the slaves. All the slaves do is stand around and MOO!!! For free healthcare, free education, free housing and they beg those who are in power to disarm them I do agree that a slave should not have access to a firearm. How can you disagree with the government passing out birth control ? I hope the breeding of slaves stops or at the very least slows down.

You see we are cows, the IRS is company who milks the cows and the United States Inc. is the veterinarian who takes care of the herd and Great Britain is the Owner of the farm in fee simple. The farm is held in allodium by the Pope.

Now to Rome.

"Convinced that the principles of religion contribute most powerfully to keep nations in the state of passive obedience which they owe to their princes, the high contracting parties declare it to be their intention to sustain in their respective states, those measures which the clergy may adopt with the aim of ameliorating their interests, so intimately connected with the preservation of the authority of the princes; and the contracting powers join in offering their thanks to the Pope for what he has already done for them, and solicit his constant cooperation in their views of submitting the nations." Article (3) Treaty of Varona (1822)

If the Sovereign Pontiff should nevertheless, insist on his law being observed he must be obeyed. Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec, lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844. Pontifical laws moreover become obligatory without being accepted or confirmed by secular rulers. Syllabus, prop. 28, 29, 44. Hence the jus nationale,(Federal Law) or the exceptional ecclesiastical laws prevalent in the United States, may be abolished at any time by the Sovereign Pontiff. Elements of Ecclesiastical Law. Vol. I 53-54. So could this be shown that the Pope rules the world? The Pope is the ultimate owner of everything in the World. See Treaty of 1213, Papal Bull of 1455 and 1492.

I could go on and on, this is just the tip of the iceberg. Don't let this information scare you because without it you cannot be free, You have to understand that all slavery and freedom originates in the mind. When your mind allows you to accept and understand that the United States, Great Britain and the Vatican are corporations which are nothing but fictional entities which have been placed into your mind, you will understand that your slavery was because you believed a lie.

domathy wrote:
Well I dont think your seeing the bigger picture sunshine you aren't seeig the connections

Did you read the last link to the letsroll forum? Just wondering.

I would put it this way. Our current civilization is centered around the 3 city states, ie City of London, Washington DC and the Vatican. That is the system, you can say that the Rothschild run everything and have a strangle hold on economics, however I do not believe this is the case. When looking deeper into the economic system you'll find there are many other player's who have shit loads more capital that the rothschilds.
Here is something to consider.

Yet the rothschilds count their fortunes in multiples of trillions

domathy wrote:
Its just a rumour.
I've yet to see any solid evidence of this at all. Its never been forthcoming.

andyh wrote:
The Queen is not really fond of full disclosure in this way either. If she listed her families true wealth, it would be a spark to a keg of gunpowder. They don't want to answer just how it is that they amassed trillions in wealth. In the case of the Rothschilds, it's all about what they control. They are all about banking and wealth management. We know that when the money is in the bank, or in the control of a money market or institution, it is in fact "controlled" by that company. They control countries through the usury system, and look after the money of the wealthiest in the world. That's how that works. The Rothschild's list their holdings at something like 3.2 billion. That number seems a little low doesn't it?

ronisron wrote:
There's probably another couple billion in property in Europe. I still haven't seen anything but rumours in their case.

the royal family actually clearly DO state that they have ultimate pwnership of the entire commonwealth apart from Scotland recently I believe
In the case of the royal family we actually DO have clear evidence of some extreme wealth and we have some heavily inferred wealth in the vatican. The archives alone are of tremendous value...ofc they don't share it with anyone despite being 'christians' and all that
The church also has vast amounts of land and complete tax exemption the world over.

There are some investment companies which hadabusa have listed that do have traceable wealth in the order of trillions.

And then there's the central banks who have 'infinite' money LOL :p

"CPA Thomas D. Schauf corroborates McCallister’s claims, adding that ten banks control all twelve Federal Reserve Bank branches. He names N.M. Rothschild of London, Rothschild Bank of Berlin, Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Warburg Bank of Amsterdam, Lehman Brothers of New York, Lazard Brothers of Paris, Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York, Israel Moses Seif Bank of Italy, Goldman Sachs of New York and JP Morgan Chase Bank of New York. Schauf lists William Rockefeller, Paul Warburg, Jacob Schiff and James Stillman as individuals who own large shares of the Fed. [3] The Schiffs are insiders at Kuhn Loeb. The Stillmans are Citigroup insiders, who married into the Rockefeller clan at the turn of the century.


Eustace Mullins came to the same conclusions in his book The Secrets of the Federal Reserve, in which he displays charts connecting the Fed and its member banks to the families of Rothschild, Warburg, Rockefeller and the others. [4]


The control that these banking families exert over the global economy cannot be overstated and is quite intentionally shrouded in secrecy. Their corporate media arm is quick to discredit any information exposing this private central banking cartel as “conspiracy theory”. Yet the facts remain. "

Boots wrote:
There's great info in this thread... I have to say that while the Windsors may "own" much of the best land in the world, and have holdings that rival the wealth of the Vatican, the Rothschilds are the managers and advisors of all that wealth. "Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not who makes the laws" -- that is how they got in. Loaning gold to countries with interest attached, calling in the loans when they can't afford to be paid back. They advise the super rich in facets of usury, and in a sense wind up controlling what they do with their wealth. Through this they amassed their own mega fortune, and have their fingers in a lot of pies. They became involved in politics in a behind the scenes power role. The Rothschilds are HUGE players here, are very powerful, and their wealth and holdings are how they have sway over us. But they aren't the only players, they're just in a league that has a very exclusive membership.

As for "the Jews"... these terms apply to the common folk. The Christians, the Jews, the Muslims.....it's all for our benefit. At the highest levels in doesn't matter what religion you profess to be, I believe it comes down to your ancestry and the degree or depth of the psychopathology that is inherent. That is what separates "them" from "us". The line of demarcation is people who have the ability to feel and express feelings naturally, using all parts of the brain, and those who exist entirely in their brain stem or their reptile brain. The good news is, we outnumber them. To them, the "weakness" in us is our empathy, our consideration, our love, our fear.... they have none of these things. The world is run by them, and the only ones who can truly succeed in their system are other psychopaths.

There are a lot of Jewish surnames in the entertainment business in North America -- all facets of it. These are very corrupted businesses, but drugs, sex and a shitload of money and "power" will do that. To anyone.

If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?

You have not begun to appreciate the real depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are disturbers. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom not merely of the latest great war but of nearly all your wars, not only of the Russian but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it.

Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.

But we did not leave you alone. We took you in hand and pulled down the beautiful and generous structure you had reared, and changed the whole course of your history. We conquered you as no empire of yours ever subjugated Africa or Asia. And we did it all without armies, without bullets, without blood or turmoil, without force of any kind. We did it solely by the irresistible might of our spirit, with ideas, with propaganda.

We made you the willing and unconscious bearers of our mission to the whole world, to the barbarous races of the earth, to the countless unborn generations. Without fully understanding what we were doing to you, you became the agents at large of our racial tradition, carrying our gospel to the unexplored ends of the earth.

Our tribal customs have become the core of your moral code. Our tribal laws have furnished the basic groundwork of all your august constitutions and legal systems. Our legends and our folk-tales are the sacred lore which you croon to your infants. Our poets have filled your hymnals and your prayer-books. Our national history has become an indispensable part of the learning of your pastors and priests and scholars. Our kings, our statesmen, our prophets, our warriors are your heroes. Our ancient little country is your Holy Land. Our national literature is your Holy Bible. What our people thought and taught has become inextricably woven into your very speech and tradition, until no one among you can be called educated who is not familiar with our racial heritage.........
A Real Case Against the Jews
One of Them Points Out the Full Depth of Their Guilt
by Marcus Eli Ravage

All gingers are anti-semites..........Daily Mail type FACT!

I don't know about the rest of the families. I say if they are the most powerful. And if not, they are at least in the top 2 0r 3. And their experience and expertise guarantees that they remain very useful to the cabal no matter what.