I came to a point a few months ago where I realised that studying the NWO and keeping up with the news was making me really anxious and unhappy. So, the obvious solution was to stop reading any related material. Also, my reasoning was that if anything really bad happens there's bugger all I can do about it, so I might as well just get on with my life and keep my fingers crossed

My main reason for frequenting SZ is the lovely people here, but I can't say that I'm a truther these days. I am thinking of attending a lawful rebellion event at some point in the future though.

As for waking other people up and making them aware of things, I don't feel as though it's my job, plus I'm pretty much a hermit these days

Does anyone else feel like this?

I very much feel that way atm - I never really bought into some of the out there conspiracies and have gotten more and more disappointed in the conspiracy 'business' - having spent 24 hours in tears over news stories of kittens being buried alive up to their necks in concrete paedophiles being let off and the ridiculous sums of money being paid to 'the famous' 'the enept' and 'the corrupt' I am even more determined that the way forward for me is to work on making my life how I wish it to be whilst being the change - the only way for real change to happen is through a complete change of mindset - changing one system for another is just a temporary 'fix' that is not inclusive of all.

You just managed to sum up why I stopped watching or reading the news. If anything can lower your vibrationary state, reading about people hurting and abusing other people and animals can

That's kind of why I just started trying to focus on improving my own life. As you know, I was ill for a long time and now I'm recovered I'm working on my business and trying to carve out a happy life for myself. Now if I can only raise my prices I can do less work and spend more time pottering. Oh how I love to potter

I think you're spot on about not being able to change the system until people have changed their mindsets. Hopefully it can happen though.

I tend to read stuff related to the conspiracy angle because it drags you of into areas of history, science and politics which you would probably not investigate following traditional lines of thought or writings. Most of the stuff I have read about is more factual than theory in my experience, and actually makes sense of some of the deep routed main stream historical information.

I think the appeal of the Lawful Rebellion is the fact that it is proactive and easy to understand for the most part. People can relate to the problems presented and they are aware of the corrupt nature of the system at every level. The methods proposed by members of the Lawful Rebellion movement are realistic and achievable provided a critical mass can be achieved. The movement is really picking up momentum now and action is taking place in different areas of the country. Birkenhead head is a strong hold for the movement due to the activities of Roger Hayes and others in and around that area of the country. In the South people like Brian Geerish are also very active in getting the message out about the corruption in our legal and political system.

My view is that spreading the word is a natural by product of following or discussing the Lawful Rebellion groups activities. People can easily relate to the issues discussed and actions taken by the movement, without being turned off by the conspiracy theorist label attached to other groups like 9-11 or 7-7 etc. It totally avoids any of the reptilian whoo whoo that tends to turn people off these concepts rather than draw them in.

Those are good points about the lawful rebellion movement Frog. It's much more positive and based on tangible stuff that most people can relate to. If you mention the whoo whoo stuff it is often met by ridicule. Not that people should care about that if they're into the whoo whoo stuff, more power to them. I keep an open mind on all of it. It's just that constantly immersing oneself in doom and gloom leads to depression and anxiety - or at least it does in my case.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Totally Lesley. I got into the habit a few years back of trying to 'awaken' friends and family members. They just ended up branding me a loon, the same way the msm brands all CT's. That's just the way it is. Did not do myself any favours. Some of my closer family members occasionally praise me for telling them things that are going to happen well in advance. The type of things that we truthers already know about, the stuff that gets purposely ignored by the msm. As for the NWO stuff, personally I think there's a lot of scaremongering going on. I think a lot of that scaremongering finds a home on DIF. That was why I stopped posting in the normal sense over there.

re Frog's points about lawful rebellion. Is good to hear the word is spreading. And as you say Lesley the point Frog makes about LR being something that can be openly discussed without getting people's back up about conspiracy 'theories'. What I never really understood about LR is where does the buck stop? Is it really possible to beat the system?

MP3
www.thecrowhouse.com/dl/MaxIgan_The_Trut...trix_June15_2012.mp3

www.thecrowhouse.com/061512.html

I understand why you feel that way

keep in mind you are living through the most important time in recorded human history
don't be scared and don't miss it.

boywonder wrote:
I guess the simple answer is the buck stops with the individual. For example a police constable is responsible for carrying out their duties and upholding their oath. An individual is responsible for conducting themselves in accordance with common law principles.

The question is what is the system and who should the system be working for? Who holds the real power? Of course we will beat the system they have already lost! Who do you know that is in agreement with the way this country has been managed politically, lawfully and financially?

This is quite an in depth interview with Roger Hayes...

There are also videos in the Media Zone plus forum threads which relate to Roger Hayes.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:


You have to realize a lot of the anti NWO is driven by the £ sign. Its not their to wake people up its their to milk truth seekers like cash cows.

LesleyPumpshaft wrote:
Lesley, i kind of remember u saying u wre getting into the charlse hanel book, the master key system. I just got that book a lil while ago... I am sort of trying to get into it but it is stating the obvious in a really boring way.. and also seems to go on about getting material gains/in a selfish way.

It is kind of a good book and a businessmans making money type of book.
but the part about us realising that we are all part of everything .. and to connect to the positive parts, sort of makes sense.

It is pretty hard to try to read it .. once a week, practice his lessons, stuff. But still very interesting. I am still trying to read it every now and then, but i cant read it the way he demands it to be. Possibly later, i might.. he says we are all lazy cos we dont use our minds. .. kind of blames us, in a way... ... relax, i say !

nirvana wrote: As you were one of the posters who started thread after thread after thread on the DIF about race, and particularly Muslims, while pretending to be a 'truther' it's highly debatable whether you're in any position to comment.

I first got into all that conspiracy stuff pre 9/11, then 9/11 happened, i was "wow, it's all true". I was like Rodin about joos etc.

Then I went to see DI talk in Brixton, I was almost suicidal after a couple of years of this gloom and doom.
I was certainly closing in on a nervous breakdown.

Then I sat down and talked to Matthew Delooze and his lovely wife suzie, after a talk he'd given.

I haven't really taken much seriously ever since.

Icke want's fear, Matthew is all love (although he'd chastise me for saying that).

Thanks for all the replies. I am too lazy to repond to them individually, or rather, too tired because I have been glued to the old keyboard for work today and my eyes are going funny now

It's good to know that other people have felt the same way. I'm just going to try not to take the doom and gloom too seriously. In fact, if burrying my head in the sand ostrich fashion helps then so be it! Actually I still can'tresist taking a sneaky peek at the news sometimes. Only to keep abreast of current propaganda.

When I first started looking at this stuff I was scared and depressed, and then I came through that period...but now, I just couldn't be arsed. It's not apathy I don't think, it's more like I could be doing better things with my life and improving myself instead of dwelling on the world's problems kind of thing.

irrepressible wrote:
Yes, this happened to me too, but then I got back into the truther stuff and reading about the NWO, depopulation, Agenda 21 and transhumanism etc. After a while I was back to tossing and turning all night and not being able to sleep because I was so worried about the NWO. Then I decided I couldn't be arsed and that I should work on myself instead. This cycle seems to keep repeating itself.

martg wrote:
What is that?

Strangely hypnotic....

oioioi wrote:
That was fucking brilliant!

One night when I was half asleep and after reading too much zombie stuff, and then hearing talk about it on late night talk radio, I got up and closed the window even though the room was too warm, because zombies have super human strength and they could have been through that screen in a flash.


Everything in moderation, and I mean everything.

Space Bandit wrote:
kind of overwhelming isn't it?
In my opinion it is the truth of what's going on made by some extremely well informed people.

I'm surprised no-one has made a thread about it yet.
There isn't much known about the people that made it, it came from a canadian company called Heliofant that hasn't done anything before, isn't hiring and doesn't seem to have any future projects.
https://www.heliofant.com/

I found it helpful to watch some of the analysis on youtube, the symbolism is so densely packed that it's easy to miss a lot of it.
(like the map of the false flags on the classroom wall).

@Lesleypumpshaft, I had more of a think about what you were saying and it seems to me that it's about what you focus on,
It's so easy to get caught up in the doom and gloom (and end up like cathar, hoping for death and destruction)
There is so much more going on right now, and there are positive signs all over the place, but the doom and gloom propaganda has ramped up too.
don't pay any attention to the all the impending disaster crap, it's just the scumbags at the top panicking because they are losing their grip.