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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 27 Jul 2012 17:46 #41

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Yeah CC, it's human nature to try to find answers, but sometimes, oftentimes, there is no answer, unfathomable shit just happens. Evil people just do things like that.
I only read a few lines of that story, enough of that story, and I couldn't continue :(

My mind is already searching for the next laugh, the next bit of fun as an antidote.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 27 Jul 2012 17:49 #42

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irrepressible wrote:
Yeah CC, it's human nature to try to find answers, but sometimes, oftentimes, there is no answer, unfathomable shit just happens. Evil people just do things like that.
I only read a few lines of that story, enough of that story, and I couldn't continue :(

My mind is already searching for the next laugh, the next bit of fun as an antidote.

Luvs u irry, just read some of the humour stuff, etc in here. there is some fun as an antidote. :band:

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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 27 Jul 2012 17:57 #43

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I'm not sure it's a particularly good example in the context of this thread. The reasons why things like this happen in South Africa aren't to do with tribalism. They are rather more akin to an abused child becoming a child abuser. There are many in South Africa whose minds have literally cracked as a result of the previous regime imposed on them. That has nothing to do with tribalism or "primitive" culture.

I watched this samurai movie last night and thought it was tribal and primitive in it's own way.

But then I realized the story is from the 1600's.

Thing is that stuff from south africa was the headline of the morning news today.

I realize it's hard to talk about this topic without it coming across culturally ignorant.

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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 27 Jul 2012 18:58 #44

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We are tribal people .We all have our own tribes which we belong to. These tribes can be religious,political,social, shared beliefs etc.

Religious tribes can help people socially ,can help with employment, Can help feel bonds and friendships based on mutual understanding and faith.

Social tribes can be a social circle we belong to friends in pub, work etc

The only individual people who are not part of any tribes are hermits.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 27 Jul 2012 19:01 #45

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irrepressible wrote:

I'm not sure if I'd let them off that easily with the whole appartheid thing dub. They raped the boys mother then shot her, killed the father, then drowned the lad in a bath of boiling water. To me, that's pure evil, and not the result of a cracked mind.

Don't get me wrong irre, I didn't mean to suggest that Apartheid is an excuse for this evil. It certainly isn't. What I'm saying though, from talking with Ms dubs at length about this over the years is that there are a lot of sick fucked up people in SA and a lot of that does stem from the Apartheid years. There are people over there who's minds are literally cracked and evil walked straight into the cracks.
This case may or may not involve perpetrators that have that kind of fucked head. They may just have fucked heads if you get my drift, we have plenty of sick fucks in Britain too.
My point is that there is no tribal cause for this vile series of acts. It's not related to tribalism, which is the topic of the thread. It's the actions of sick fucks, whatever the reason for them being sick fucks is.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 28 Jul 2012 15:40 #46

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Maybe we have different ideas of what 'tribal' and 'primitive' mean. I look at tribal folks as a community, a loyal and enduring one with integrity protecting their traditions, people and the Earth. Many tribal people around the world remarkably share very similar beliefs and customs. They dance and perform sacred ceremonies and tend to respect each other and the land.

After reading through some of the thread, i think its s safe to assume you may describing 'barbarism'. I would not associate that with tribal people.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 28 Jul 2012 21:10 #47

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irrepressible wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
Firstly, obviously this is absolutely atrocious. The people that did this...well. I don't know what should happen to them but I wouldn't want it to be nice. It's just so sad and wrong.

But, I'm not sure it's a particularly good example in the context of this thread. The reasons why things like this happen in South Africa aren't to do with tribalism. They are rather more akin to an abused child becoming a child abuser. There are many in South Africa whose minds have literally cracked as a result of the previous regime imposed on them. That has nothing to do with tribalism or "primitive" culture.

I'm not sure if I'd let them off that easily with the whole appartheid thing dub. They raped the boys mother then shot her, killed the father, then drowned the lad in a bath of boiling water. To me, that's pure evil, and not the result of a cracked mind.



Theres a lot of race hatred in South Africa white against black ,Black against white.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 29 Jul 2012 00:03 #48

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As human being's it is within our nature to want to be with other's of like minds.

The modern word for tribalism is community but being tribal doesn't mean being primitive the word primitive was programmed into us from the invader's of tribal communities.

People do some pretty sick things and it comes from the pressures of living in the modern world, when you place people in a stressful situation like a war they will do things which go against their core nature they become barbarians all the pressures they have built up come out in a flood of rage against a preconceived threat.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 29 Jul 2012 00:42 #49

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nirvana wrote:
I will admit im very anti sharia law. Not anti muslim people. I have a couple of muslim friends and this does not mean i have to respect sharia law.



Taliban Execution Sparks Outrage From U.S (ABC NEWS) Video

abcnews.go.com/International/video/talib...afghanistan-16740290

The Military–industrial complex makes billions of this culture.... :ar:

Each time these videos go online and get seen in the west army recruitment increases easily.

People will literally join the army just so they can be a hero that helps destroy this culture.

This is a major reason people fly planes and drop bombs on the middle east.

Well that's just how the mainstream media portrays it here in America.

You would think these people would stop killing girls like this.

Just another example that some people are still tribal & primitive.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 31 Jul 2012 15:56 #50

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Mali Islamists stone couple to death for adultery... :conf:

in.reuters.com/article/2012/07/30/mali-c...dINDEE86T0I720120730
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 02 Aug 2012 23:14 #51

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Do white people in the UK really fight each other over soccer games?

I seen this movie and thought it was ridiculous...

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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 14:11 #52

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This is why Amer­i­cans love the sys­tem and want police on the street because they fear this culture.



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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 14:22 #53

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like any of those idiots could hit the side of a barn. they probably dont have the aim to piss in a toilet.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 14:54 #54

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dogsmilk wrote:
We're apes. We may have all this technology and civilisation but essentially we're a smooth skinned subspecies of chimpanzee. So we act like them.

I agree. Truthfully speaking, there isn't much that separates us from them intellectually either. We share very similar problem solving abilities. In some cases, like pattern memorization, they're better at it than we are. In my opinion, we're slightly more consciously developed. They're physically superior to us in every way, so that's our only edge on other Apes.

We're still very primitive, it's evident by what we do with our technology and resource distribution. A majority of technology is designed for death and destruction to maintain or take territory, while the most aggressively dominant of our kind hold most of the resources and let the weaker ones starve. Many group based species act the same way. Primates, Canines, Lions, Hippos, etc. Given the similarities, I find it amusing when I hear/see people equate our species to being the pinnacle of existence. Delusions of grandeur I say. This isn't limited to gang-land cultures, or religious extremists, it's our entire species.
Form is merely a momentary manifestation of being, not a fixed reality.

History doesn't repeat itself, uninformed people repeat history.

To all progressive endeavors great or small, come unforeseen benefits on a scale larger than most give pause or contemplation of.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 15:04 #55

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like any of those idiots could hit the side of a barn. they probably dont have the aim to piss in a toilet.

Those city's are breaking murder records everyday with thousands of shootings going on.

They just walk up close and give head shots.

:rl:
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 15:15 #56

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Mrindigo wrote:
dogsmilk wrote:
We're apes. We may have all this technology and civilisation but essentially we're a smooth skinned subspecies of chimpanzee. So we act like them.

I agree. Truthfully speaking, there isn't much that separates us from them intellectually either. We share very similar problem solving abilities. In some cases, like pattern memorization, they're better at it than we are. In my opinion, we're slightly more consciously developed. They're physically superior to us in every way, so that's our only edge on other Apes.

We're still very primitive, it's evident by what we do with our technology and resource distribution. A majority of technology is designed for death and destruction to maintain or take territory, while the most aggressively dominant of our kind hold most of the resources and let the weaker ones starve. Many group based species act the same way. Primates, Canines, Lions, Hippos, etc. Given the similarities, I find it amusing when I hear/see people equate our species to being the pinnacle of existence. Delusions of grandeur I say. This isn't limited to gang-land cultures, or religious extremists, it's our entire species.
Absolutely. Well said.
Strip away the artifice of our 'civilization' and more importantly, the means and operatives to enforce 'teh lawz' and watch humans go feral in a heartbeat. We are all only one disaster, natural or otherwise, away from that condition.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 15:21 #57

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Mrindigo wrote:
They’re physically superior to us in every way, so that’s our only edge on other Apes.

Except in the penis department. The human penis is far superior to that of the Apes.

Plus aesthetically, I think we look better :chuckle:
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 15:25 #58

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RealAmerican wrote:
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like any of those idiots could hit the side of a barn. they probably dont have the aim to piss in a toilet.

Those city's are breaking murder records everyday with thousands of shootings going on.

They just walk up close and give head shots.

:rl:

thats true.

you know whats missing? honor.
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Re: Why are some people still Tribal & Primitive? 05 Aug 2012 15:26 #59

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It's all a bit doom and gloom really...humans are violent murderous savages, etc. One disaster away from becoming feral...What is civilisation? Technology? Industrialism? The Aboriginal people, Inuits, certain tribes around the world don't have much in the way of technology and industry, and they're not murderous feral savages.

Hmmm...I'm not sure if I've explained things very well :D Do you know what I mean though? :chuckle:
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RealAmerican wrote:
batou wrote:
like any of those idiots could hit the side of a barn. they probably dont have the aim to piss in a toilet.

Those city's are breaking murder records everyday with thousands of shootings going on.
They just walk up close and give head shots.
:rl:
Natural selection can be awesome at times eh? :cool:
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