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Re: what is racism 03 Aug 2012 22:41 #41

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Re: what is racism 03 Aug 2012 23:08 #42

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Racism is the consequence of a basic theory in Psychology: the 'ingroup' and the 'outgroup':

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroups_and_outgroups
In sociology and social psychology, an ingroup is a social group to which a person psychologically identifies themselves as a member and an outgroup is a social group to which an individual does not identify. For example, people may find it psychologically meaningful to view themselves according to their race, culture, gender or religion. It has been found that the psychological membership of social groups and categories is associated with a wide variety of phenomena.

The terminology was made popular by Henri Tajfel and colleagues during his work in formulating social identity theory. The significance of ingroup and outgroup categorization was identified using using a method called the minimal group paradigm. Tajfel and colleagues discovered that people can form self preferencing ingroups within a matter of minutes and that such groups can form even on the basis of seemingly trivial characteristics, such as preferences for certain paintings.

Associated phenomena

The psychological categorization of people into ingroup and outgroup members is associated with a variety of phenomena. The following examples have all received a great deal of academic attention:

In-group favoritism

This refers to the fact that under certain conditions people will preference and have affinity for one’s in-group over the out-group, or anyone viewed as outside the in-group. This can be expressed in evaluation of others, linking, allocation of resources and many other ways.

Group polarisation

This generally refers to the tendency for groups to make decisions that are more extreme than the initial inclination of its members, although polarization toward the most central beliefs has has also been observed. It has been shown that this effect is related to a psychologically salient ingroup and outgroup categorization

Group homogeneity

Categorization of people into social groups has been shown to increase the perception that group members are similar to one another. The most well known outcome is that outgroups are perceived as more homogonous than ingroups, although under certain conditions ingroup members may be perceived as more similar to one another than outgroup members.

www.apa.org/pi/oema/resources/native-american-mascot.pdf
Brislin (2000) states that "racism centers on the belief that, given the simple fact some individuals were born into a certain out group, those individuals are inferior on such dimensions as intelligence, morals, and an ability to interact in decent society. Jones defines racism in a number of ways. He indicates cultural racism can generally be defined as "the individual and institutional expression of the superiority of one race’s cultural heritage over that of another race"
This phenomenon is explored in Brave New World where the population are actively encouraged to split themselves into social groups and feel disdain towards any social group other than their own.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:09 #43

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Racism is generally defined as actions, practices, or beliefs that reflect the racial worldview: the ideology that humans are divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called "races". This ideology entails the belief that members of a race share a set of characteristic traits, abilities, or qualities, that traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural behavioral characteristics are inherited, and that this inheritance means that races can be ranked as innately superior or inferior to others

I would not say that being anti sharia law is racist - though it is quite a statement to make unless you have thoroughly researched its history, its scope and its application. I find some aspects of sharia law morally repugnant but other aspects of it I respect - such as the forbidding of usury.

There are aspects of most cultures including my own and aspects of all religions that I find repugnant - and I will happily say so - however I recognise that people who practice the things that I personally find wrong are not necessarily bad - we just have different beliefs and different ways of behaving - ofc I believe that my way of living is the better way but I suspect they think that their way of doing things is the right way - and who is to judge what is right and wrong? who am I to insist that others behave and follow paths I choose for them?

I don't agree that stoning people to death is humane - but then I don't think that imprisoning someone for saying something stupid on twitter or facebook is right either. I think that circumcising babies is a bad choice - but then I come from a culture that also says that mutilating your body with implants and injecting it with poisons can make you more beautiful.

As the saying goes people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.


I dont need to research its history to realise sharia law has many evil aspects to it. Same reason i dont need to research nazi germany to realise Hitler was an evil man.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:10 #44

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wake_up_bomb wrote:
Racism is the consequence of a basic theory in Psychology: the 'ingroup' and the 'outgroup':

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingroups_and_outgroups
In sociology and social psychology, an ingroup is a social group to which a person psychologically identifies themselves as a member and an outgroup is a social group to which an individual does not identify. For example, people may find it psychologically meaningful to view themselves according to their race, culture, gender or religion. It has been found that the psychological membership of social groups and categories is associated with a wide variety of phenomena.

The terminology was made popular by Henri Tajfel and colleagues during his work in formulating social identity theory. The significance of ingroup and outgroup categorization was identified using using a method called the minimal group paradigm. Tajfel and colleagues discovered that people can form self preferencing ingroups within a matter of minutes and that such groups can form even on the basis of seemingly trivial characteristics, such as preferences for certain paintings.

Associated phenomena

The psychological categorization of people into ingroup and outgroup members is associated with a variety of phenomena. The following examples have all received a great deal of academic attention:

In-group favoritism

This refers to the fact that under certain conditions people will preference and have affinity for one’s in-group over the out-group, or anyone viewed as outside the in-group. This can be expressed in evaluation of others, linking, allocation of resources and many other ways.

Group polarisation

This generally refers to the tendency for groups to make decisions that are more extreme than the initial inclination of its members, although polarization toward the most central beliefs has has also been observed. It has been shown that this effect is related to a psychologically salient ingroup and outgroup categorization

Group homogeneity

Categorization of people into social groups has been shown to increase the perception that group members are similar to one another. The most well known outcome is that outgroups are perceived as more homogonous than ingroups, although under certain conditions ingroup members may be perceived as more similar to one another than outgroup members.

www.apa.org/pi/oema/resources/native-american-mascot.pdf
Brislin (2000) states that "racism centers on the belief that, given the simple fact some individuals were born into a certain out group, those individuals are inferior on such dimensions as intelligence, morals, and an ability to interact in decent society. Jones defines racism in a number of ways. He indicates cultural racism can generally be defined as "the individual and institutional expression of the superiority of one race’s cultural heritage over that of another race"
This phenomenon is explored in Brave New World where the population are actively encouraged to split themselves into social groups and feel disdain towards any social group other than their own.

I thought your understanding of racism was being anti sharia law :umm: Goal posts moved once again asleep bomb. :spank:
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:13 #45

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nirvana wrote:


I dont need to research its history to realise sharia law has many evil aspects to it. Same reason i dont need to research nazi germany to realise Hitler was an evil man.

What about modern day Britian or the US?
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:17 #46

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nirvana wrote:

I thought your understanding of racism was being anti sharia law :umm: Goal posts moved once again asleep bomb. :spank:

You love twisting things to suit yourself don't you :gleek:

Insinuating WUB is 'still asleep' just makes you look like a knob.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:22 #47

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psketti wrote:
nirvana wrote:

I thought your understanding of racism was being anti sharia law :umm: Goal posts moved once again asleep bomb. :spank:

You love twisting things to suit yourself don't you :gleek:

Insinuating WUB is 'still asleep' just makes you look like a knob.

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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:34 #48

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psketti wrote:
nirvana wrote:

I thought your understanding of racism was being anti sharia law :umm: Goal posts moved once again asleep bomb. :spank:

You love twisting things to suit yourself don't you :gleek:

Insinuating WUB is 'still asleep' just makes you look like a knob.

Asleep and awake are both subjective ideals which sheep use to justify themselves a higher status. :emb:

We all twist things to suit our own purpose or else we just become yes men to the person with the biggest charisma. :O bit like mrs oi oi oi
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:38 #49

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Talking about following people with charisma ..........
Are you and the contingent from the Edjits Defence League still going to see Icke at Wembley?
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:42 #50

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nirvana wrote:

Asleep and awake are both subjective ideals which sheep use to justify themselves a higher status. :emb:

We all twist things to suit our own purpose or else we just become yes men to the person with the biggest charisma. :O bit like mrs oi oi oi

Here you go... hope you like the colour.


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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:43 #51

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feather wrote:
Talking about following people with charisma ..........
Are you and the contingent from the Edjits Defence League still going to see Icke at Wembley?


Good question. I too would be interested to know the answer to that.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:46 #52

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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:48 #53

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psketti wrote:
nirvana wrote:

Asleep and awake are both subjective ideals which sheep use to justify themselves a higher status. :emb:

We all twist things to suit our own purpose or else we just become yes men to the person with the biggest charisma. :O bit like mrs oi oi oi

Here you go... hope you like the colour.


Spade


How very racist of you. you calling a black person a spade :umm:
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:49 #54

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nirvana wrote:
Yes

You'd love that to be true, I'm sure.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:49 #55

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nirvana wrote:
Yes
OK.
I just wondered.
I thought you'd scared the horses over on DIF when you mentioned that plan is all.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:50 #56

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How very racist of you. you calling a black person a spade :umm:

I think you'll find that it was yourself that did and that no where did I.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 02:53 #57

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feather wrote:
OK.
I just wondered.
I thought you'd scared the horses over on DIF when you mentioned that plan is all.


The demo is not an EDL demo thoe ther will be edl and many others giving out leaflets in regards to charlene downes.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 03:05 #58

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nirvana wrote:
The demo is not an EDL demo thoe though ther there will be edl EDL and many others giving out leaflets in regards to charlene downes Charlene Downes.

Sorry, I just made a couple of corrections there. Shame it takes a Scotsman to defend basic English eh? :)
Slippery slope and all that.
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Re: what is racism 04 Aug 2012 03:11 #59

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feather wrote:
nirvana wrote:
The demo is not an EDL demo thoe though ther there will be edl EDL and many others giving out leaflets in regards to charlene downes Charlene Downes.

Sorry, I just made a couple of corrections there. Shame it takes a Scotsman to defend basic English eh? :)
Slippery slope and all that.
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Good boy what would we ever do without you? :clap:
Probably become illiterate and then be overrun by hordes from the East because no-one could understand your cries for help I imagine. :dunno:

Happy to help. :)
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