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Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 13:45 #1

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Should people be free to come and go as they please or should some jumped up cock with no fundamental understanding of freedom of speech be allowed to elevate themselves to a position of power enabling them to restrict other peoples freedoms?

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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 14:49 #2

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If you're referring to global travel, it certainly would be nice to come and go as we please. We're all residents of Earth, and no one owns a planet. The idea of countries is a little odd, and a little territorially primitive. On a hypothetical/philosophical level, yeah I think we should be able to come and go as we please. Naturally there are some out there who would jump and flail their arms around at that prospect, "NWO SUPPORTER!" That usually seems to come from conservative nationalists who are greedy xenophobic control freaks.
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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 15:03 #3

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Same as I am wondering if you are referring to world traveling. Like Indie just stated, I believe so and feel that would be wonderful and I have often imagined it happening. For some reason, it just doesn't make good sense and it feels we are herded within invisible borders as if we are the property of that city/state/country's leaders. Even worse, the heightened security and laws since 911 event have really made it more complicated to travel around.ts stifling and folks should have freedom of movement and be nomadic if they chose to, or humanity will stagnate.

When expressing these same views at that other place, oftentimes I got accused of being a NWO shill. I just think it is natural for us to be curious and want to visit other lands. Birds and fish migrate and travel all the time. The Earth is all ours to share so putting claims on this piece of land and that as a whole nation comes across as a bit territorial and there will be those, especially those concerned about immigration who would be opposed to it.
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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 15:14 #4

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I know this is a tired analogy, but it fits; the borders are the fences around the herds. The people who manage the flow, are doing it so they can watch what we are doing more closely, and to limit our movements to make that easier. I think the enforced conclusion they are hoping everyone comes to is "It's best to just stay at home" I like the idea of being able to go where I please on the whole planet, whether or not I make that journey is irrelevant. It would be nice to have the freedom at my disposal.
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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 15:15 #5

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oioioi wrote:
Should people be free ...

G'day Oioioi.

Yes. :thumbup:

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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 18:15 #6

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ronisron wrote:
I know this is a tired analogy, but it fits; the borders are the fences around the herds. The people who manage the flow, are doing it so they can watch what we are doing more closely, and to limit our movements to make that easier. I think the enforced conclusion they are hoping everyone comes to is "It's best to just stay at home" I like the idea of being able to go where I please on the whole planet, whether or not I make that journey is irrelevant. It would be nice to have the freedom at my disposal.

Well said
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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 18:26 #7

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ronisron wrote:
I know this is a tired analogy, but it fits; the borders are the fences around the herds. The people who manage the flow, are doing it so they can watch what we are doing more closely, and to limit our movements to make that easier. I think the enforced conclusion they are hoping everyone comes to is "It's best to just stay at home" I like the idea of being able to go where I please on the whole planet, whether or not I make that journey is irrelevant. It would be nice to have the freedom at my disposal.

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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 19:31 #8

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Re actual physical travel, I've been overseas twice in my entire life. I've spent most of it so far trapped in the debt cycle, which has pretty much meant I can do jack.

I even have difficulty getting around London because of the cost these days. I need a bicycle.
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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 04 Aug 2012 23:12 #9

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I'm all for it, so long as hordes don't come charging through me living room while I'm trying to get some shut eye on the sofa :p
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Re: Freedom of movement yes or no? 05 Aug 2012 01:16 #10

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Earth year 2174.

Many of Earth's inhabitants had already set up colonies on Mars when Starglider approached with an unsettling message:
'Inhabitants from our doomed world will be settling here as the atmosphere is similar to the one we have left behind. This is the closest approximation to the world left behind that has been found and it has taken two generations of survivors to find a suitable destination', said the interpreted message from the Skyboard.
The Martians, however, were unwilling to accept that they were to be invaded by aliens. This was their world, since they had founded it, and their indelible mark could be found throughout.
Set the controls for the heart of the earth.
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