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What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 07:14 #1

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 07:28 #2

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 07:34 #3

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Life eats life, that's a fact of...life :D
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 07:39 #4

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 07:55 #5

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Our ability to cook meat, and the overwhelming good taste and smell of the meat to human senses.

And in the animal world their physical characteristics for hunting, and their natural ability to prey at night, their teeth and digestive system is geared for raw meat consumption it is their nature.
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 08:55 #6

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RealAmerican wrote:
What causes humans & animals to be carnivores?

Dunno...but these guys dont want you to be...

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 09:01 #7

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Mmmm, free meat on monday :cheer: :up:
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 09:12 #8

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If God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them meat-flavoured. :P

And on a more disturbing note...

3D printed meat: It's what's for dinner
August 18, 2012

Source: Cnet

3D printing has been used to create running shoes, medical implants, and, to the delight of firearm enthusiasts, a .22 caliber handgun. So why not a 3D-printed steak for the grill?

Billionaire investor Peter Thiel's philanthropic foundation plans to announce today a six-figure grant for bioprinted meat, part of an ambitious plan to bring to the world's dinner tables a set of technologies originally developed for creating medical-grade tissues.

The recipient of the Thiel Foundation's grant, a Columbia, Mo.-based startup named Modern Meadow, is pitching bioprinted meat as a more environmentally-friendly way to satisfy a natural human craving for animal protein. Co-founder Andras Forgacs has sharply criticized the overall cost of traditional livestock practices, saying "if you look at the resource intensity of everything that goes into a hamburger, it is an environmental train wreck."

"Modern Meadow is combining regenerative medicine with 3D printing to imagine an economic and compassionate solution to a global problem," said Lindy Fishburne, executive director of Breakout Labs, a project of the Thiel Foundation. "We hope our support will help propel them through the early stage of their development, so they can turn their inspired vision into reality." (See CNET's Q&A with Thiel from last year.)

The rest's here...

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 09:16 #9

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Wheres ratiocinator when you need him? (to get a thread going) :joker:

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 09:18 #10

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novum wrote:
RealAmerican wrote:
What causes humans & animals to be carnivores?

Dunno...but these guys dont want you to be...

Meat Free Monday Mccartney


McCartney Family Launch Meat Free Monday - Photocall

In This Photo: David De Rothschild, Lauren Laverne, Kate Bosworth, Anouck Lepere, Mary McCartney, James McCartney, Richard Jones, Sam Taylor-Wood, Stella McCartney, Yoko Ono, Moby, Paul McCartney, Monty Don

UK TABLOID NEWSPAPERS OUT (L-R) David De Rothschild, Lauren Laverne, Sophie Ellis-Bextor, Richard Jones, Moby, Stella McCartney, Yoko Ono, Sir Paul McCartney, Mary McCartney, James McCartney, Sam Taylor-Wood, Kate Bosworth and Anouck Lepere attend the Meat Free Monday launch held at Inn the Park, St James' Park, on June 15 2009 in London. (Photo by Dave Hogan/Getty Images) * Local Caption * Monty Don;Richard Jones;Moby;Stella McCartney;Yoko Ono;Mary McCartney;Kate Bosworth;Paul McCartney;James McCartney;Sam Taylor-Wood;Anouck Lepere
(June 15, 2009 - Source: Dave Hogan/Getty Images Europe)


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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 09:18 #11

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irrepressible wrote:
Mmmm, free meat on monday :cheer: :up:

Does anyone else suspect that Paul, Yoko and David R each tuck into a nice juicy organic T-Bone steak from New Zealand when no one is looking. :hmm:

...and probably on Monday :coffee:

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 09:32 #12

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We're omnivores.
Humans cannot get by on meat alone any more than they can get by on veg without being careful about their diet.
If you have to go to such lengths as to be so careful as to get the right range of food to stay vegan for example it should tell you something.

It is possible to have a purely vegan diet and it can be quite healthy but it is not something done without the modern convenience of varied food in shops and information about good diet.
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 10:34 #13

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i am guessing because it was a good source of food back in the day and became habit - i myself be a lacto vegetarian - have been for 30 odd years - can't stand the taste or texture of meat - only problem i have with people eating meat is in the way in which we rear animals - i think if we are gonna eat em we should at least give them a good quality of life and as quick and fear free death as possible.
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 10:37 #14

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andyh wrote:
... It is possible to have a purely vegan diet and it can be quite healthy but it is not something done without the modern convenience of varied food in shops and information about good diet.

G'day Andyh.

This isn't actually a factual statement. There are examples of vegans prior to "modern convenience of varied food in shops and information about good diet". Jainism and Buddhism are easy to check examples of this that date back thousands of years. The Essene sect is another.

..... It’s becoming obvious that our culture’s predatory mentality is blindly self-destructive. Veganism is ancient wisdom whose time has come—with a vengeance! Though the word vegan is relatively new—coined in 1944 by Donald Watson—the idea behind it goes back many centuries. I lived in a Zen monastery in Korea, for example, where people had been practicing veganism for over 600 years, following a tradition going back at least 2,500 years—eating no animal-sourced foods, wearing no animal-sourced clothes, and practicing nonviolence to other beings for ethical reasons. .....

circleofcompassion.org/articles/articles...ientveganwisdom.html

..... Jain doctrine teaches that Jainism has always existed and will always exist,[2][3][4] although historians date the foundation of the organized or present form of Jainism to sometime between the 9th and the 6th century BCE .....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism


Jain vegetarianism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism

By the way, while it is stated that the followers of Jainism are vegetarian, they are actually vegan. In fact, they go way further than vegans do and won't even eat certain plant foods, such as root vegetables.
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 12:41 #15

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i love plants so much that i try to keep the animal population down.
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 14:53 #16

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When I made this thread I was thinking it must be for nutrition.

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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 15:05 #17

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^ See, that's why I'm never really sure if you're taking the micky or not. (No offence intended)
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 15:21 #18

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The answer is....
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 15:24 #19

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andyh wrote:
... It is possible to have a purely vegan diet and it can be quite healthy but it is not something done without the modern convenience of varied food in shops and information about good diet.

G'day Andyh.

This isn't actually a factual statement. There are examples of vegans prior to "modern convenience of varied food in shops and information about good diet". Jainism and Buddhism are easy to check examples of this that date back thousands of years. The Essene sect is another.

..... It’s becoming obvious that our culture’s predatory mentality is blindly self-destructive. Veganism is ancient wisdom whose time has come—with a vengeance! Though the word vegan is relatively new—coined in 1944 by Donald Watson—the idea behind it goes back many centuries. I lived in a Zen monastery in Korea, for example, where people had been practicing veganism for over 600 years, following a tradition going back at least 2,500 years—eating no animal-sourced foods, wearing no animal-sourced clothes, and practicing nonviolence to other beings for ethical reasons. .....

circleofcompassion.org/articles/articles...ientveganwisdom.html

..... Jain doctrine teaches that Jainism has always existed and will always exist,[2][3][4] although historians date the foundation of the organized or present form of Jainism to sometime between the 9th and the 6th century BCE .....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism


Jain vegetarianism

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_vegetarianism

By the way, while it is stated that the followers of Jainism are vegetarian, they are actually vegan. In fact, they go way further than vegans do and won't even eat certain plant foods, such as root vegetables.


Everything I said was 100% accurate.
Do you think that a decent 100% veg diet is possible anywhere in the world, incl in the past?

You have heard of the potato famine? :D
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Re: What causes humans & animals to be carnivores? 20 Aug 2012 15:46 #20

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Scarcity caused it initially imo from a human perspective. Since, it's been an almost intrinsic addiction.
I just can't get my head around eating the inside of dead animals. It just seems so weird to me. Primitive really.
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