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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 30 Aug 2012 07:46 #21

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Rick wrote:

I had a very wise old man tell me once,when you get old you feel sympathy for others much more clearly,and also you feel hate more intensely,but your feeling's of regret are the most painful.

I'm 35 and my feelings of regret are already the most painful!
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 30 Aug 2012 07:50 #22

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Tough call. Most old folks either prepare by curling up into the fetal position - you know they're ready then - or by using a pistol. It's been close to 50/50 in my family. Sometimes medical science does not realize that just because they can do something it should not be done.

Burden? Duty!

The young folks and especially younger women (and girls) MUST take care of the infirm and elderly so that when they are at least middle aged they are sick of taking care of relatives, kids, husbands, neighbors, friends, jobs, their own homes and families, and eventually say no more! - Then they are labeled as bad and selfish 'female dogs'.

Just a sidebar: Earlier this year my 67 year old co worker's dad passed. He had been in and out of the hospital. His home nurses (his daughter is rich) revived him every time and called an ambulance.

His last hospital stay he was revived three times. I can only guess his body determined enough was enough as his stomach ruptured for no apparent reason, releasing toxins into the body and caused a heart attack that seemed unresponsive. During the two hours prior to legal (and real) death, the doctor asked the family to determine between surgery and pharmas or to just let him go. The family decided to just let him go. Like I said, my co worker said it took about two hours. :(

I never knew this man but I cried a little just thinking about it. His body obviously was trying to take the quick and easy way out but they wouldn't let it, so it had to do what it had to do. He did not have a DNR in place.

Me, I don't know, probably the usual: The postman will no longer be able to cram stuff in the mailbox and notice the grass is tall and decide one day to call someone about it. You read about it all the time.
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 30 Aug 2012 08:10 #23

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My paternal gran lived with us while I was growing up. She hung on till her late 80's. I'd have been inclined to say it's just the life-force that naturally makes people want to keep going. But in her case, she decided when she turned 50 that she was an old woman, and so she'd do nothing but sit in her armchair all day being waited on. Then when she finally wanted to get up & do things, she found she couldn't manage so well, as her strength, sight & hearing started to fade.

I'll be turning 50 next year, and can't comprehend why anyone would think of themselves as being old at that age.

As a result of looking after my gran, my mum's always said to us that we must put her in an old folk's home when she can't manage for herself. She's about 73, but she doesn't behave like an old person at all. She's always busy gadding about even though she does have some health issues.

I'd look after her if she needed it, as would my sister, and she's got a great network of friends and neighbours who all look out for each other.

If I felt she'd be happier at any stage in a home, we'd look into it, but would be very distrustful of the care she'd get.

As for myself - I dunno. If I could see I was a burden on my kids, I think I'd do away with myself. But I could never think of my own mum as a burden, and I doubt that they'd see me that way either. You don't know till it happens I suppose. When it gets to the stage when my mum needs nursing, I'll just be thinking about how she nurtured me when I was a baby.

Does it sound unkind to wish us each a swift, unexpected death?

It'd be different with my dad though. He showed me little positive attention when I was growing up, so I might put castors on his zimmer-frame. :)
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 31 Aug 2012 02:01 #24

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If I became a burden, I would expect to be shipped off for production... :chuckle:

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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 31 Aug 2012 02:08 #25

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Define 'burden' :D
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 31 Aug 2012 03:58 #26

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oioioi wrote:
Define 'burden' :D

Very good question.
A burden to me is something that I really don't want to have to deal with,also especially if it has nothing to do with me,but somehow I get delegated to do it,it can be a task or situation not always a person.

To put it bluntly a burden is a pain in the ass,as to how you really feel about it,if it's a task of love or sympathy or actual obligation I don't consider that type situation a burden.
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 31 Aug 2012 10:57 #27

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oioioi wrote:
Define 'burden' :D

Can't operate machinery.[/Tory cunts pushing euthanasia in order to skimp on pensions and welfare]
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 31 Aug 2012 12:01 #28

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batou wrote:
its not something im really looking forward to, being old or trapped in a cripple body. if i cant go do things and have fun, if im just sick and miserable and bed ridden, id hope someone would come end it. what kind of bastard enjoys suffering?.

Yea, I would not want to be an older person that can't do things or get around by myself.

Im not so sure about the future of transhumanism or if i would wan't to be a part of that.

Maybe stem cells will help some crippled people, but I don't think people can avoid old age.

Nobody is immortal it seems.
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 31 Aug 2012 12:10 #29

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Rick wrote:

I have seen this exact thing you have mentioned. and it seems very normal in the really old ones,and is a excellent question to ask about,because many younger people commit suicide for reasons other than extreme pain or illness and misery at the drop of a hat,or reasons that seem senseless.

But many really old people hang in there through many serious miseries of the body and suffer through until their time comes.

Yea, I watched both my grandfathers suffer before they died...

I just don't see any reason for that.
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Re: If you became a burden what would you expect? 02 Sep 2012 21:47 #30

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I would try and help myself best I am able to, but it would be wonderful if a loved one volunteered to care for me. I know I wouldn't want to be a burden on them though. I used to care for my elderly great-grandmother and I enjoyed being able to help her and did not feel she was a burden to me at all. I would do this for all of my loved ones and strangers alike.
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