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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 16:29 #41

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Because (according to the Bible) man was given free will, including the choices of whether to be good or bad, kind or mean, to create or destroy.
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 16:51 #42

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Gilly wrote:
Because (according to the Bible) man was given free will, including the choices of whether to be good or bad, kind or mean, to create or destroy.

There is absolutely no way that any God would ever give a creature of earth free will to cause pain to others.
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 16:56 #43

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Well...that's that sorted, then. :coffee:
What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind.

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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 17:06 #44

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maybe what you think is god and what a god is are two different things.
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Violence is not the answer, it is the question. the answer is yes.
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 17:06 #45

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Ab Origine wrote:
Well...that's that sorted, then. :coffee:

:rofl: A very long and complex debate finally put to bed. Thank God for that!
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 17:20 #46

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Gilly wrote:
Because (according to the Bible) man was given free will, including the choices of whether to be good or bad, kind or mean, to create or destroy.

Yep - God has gifted us with idependence of thought as He doesn't want a bunch of robots programmed to love Him - love means so much more when it has been freely given. In actual fact, it wouldn't be love if it was forced!

The reason, IMHO, that we make wrong choices is because we have drifted far from God and what He wants for us.

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All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well. - Mother Julian of Norwich
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 24 Sep 2012 23:19 #47

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maybe what you think is god and what a god is are two different things.

Care to explain?
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 25 Sep 2012 03:24 #48

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Here is an example of a serious problem with Religion...

www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/septem...vote-for-mormon.html

"A year ago, some pundits predicted that many evangelicals would not support Mitt Romney's presidential run because of his Mormon faith. They were wrong. A new poll shows evangelicals remain the base of the Republican Party, favoring Romney over Barack Obama four-to-one".
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 25 Sep 2012 03:54 #49

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RealAmerican wrote:
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maybe what you think is god and what a god is are two different things.

Care to explain?

i mean that maybe its not like what you were saying :axe:
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 25 Sep 2012 13:13 #50

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RealAmerican wrote:
Here is an example of a serious problem with Religion...

www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/septem...vote-for-mormon.html

"A year ago, some pundits predicted that many evangelicals would not support Mitt Romney's presidential run because of his Mormon faith. They were wrong. A new poll shows evangelicals remain the base of the Republican Party, favoring Romney over Barack Obama four-to-one".

I'd say that's more a political problem!
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 16:40 #51

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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 17:10 #52

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That guy is a blankety blank disgrace :mad: What an opportunistic POS. How does he sleep at night?
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 17:24 #53

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RealAmerican wrote:
Here is an example of a serious problem with Religion...

www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/septem...vote-for-mormon.html

"A year ago, some pundits predicted that many evangelicals would not support Mitt Romney's presidential run because of his Mormon faith. They were wrong. A new poll shows evangelicals remain the base of the Republican Party, favoring Romney over Barack Obama four-to-one".
Well, there are those long-standing rumors that obama is muslim. The only thing more intimidating to christians than a mormon is a muslim :hahano:
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 17:28 #54

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Tbh, we have a couple of Christians here who don't exactly come across as being intimidated by Muslims ;)
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 17:33 #55

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Tbh, we have a couple of Christians here who don't exactly come across as being intimidated by Muslims ;)
Shhhh...i'm christian too...
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 17:37 #56

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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 20:22 #57

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RealAmerican wrote:
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Because (according to the Bible) man was given free will, including the choices of whether to be good or bad, kind or mean, to create or destroy.

There is absolutely no way that any God would ever give a creature of earth free will to cause pain to others.

You appear to under the impression that a God would have to be some benevolent force for good.
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 22:14 #58

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There is absolutely no way that any God would ever give a creature of earth free will to cause pain to others.

'God' may be dualistic. ;)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism

Dualism is sometimes depicted as light and dark...sun and moon...
Sky god

Since Horus was said to be the sky, he was considered to also contain the sun and moon. It became said that the sun was his right eye and the moon his left, and that they traversed the sky when he, a falcon, flew across it. Later, the reason that the moon was not as bright as the sun was explained by a tale

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus


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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 22:20 #59

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Space Bandit wrote:

You appear to under the impression that a God would have to be some benevolent force for good.

Sounds like someone on DIF and his precious dictator.
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Re: Serious problems with Religion & Nationalism....(Thread) 17 Dec 2012 22:50 #60

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andyh wrote:
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You appear to under the impression that a God would have to be some benevolent force for good.

Sounds like someone on DIF and his precious dictator.

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How dare you insult the fuhrer... etc etc :nite: :bla:
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