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Re: Tough questions for the Universe regarding life and death 21 Oct 2012 16:32 #21

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It results in your pulse stopping and you moving on to the next plain of existence. If you didn't learn the lesson you were supposed to learn, you get to come back.
At least in my opinion.

I'm just curious how you came up with this theory and what is the next plain of existence?

Considering how few people are really awake in this world not very many people would be moving on...imo

Im really confused here... :conf:

I'll try and explain it as clearly as I can with the splitting head I have :chuckle:

In my beliefs there are something like 9 plains of existence, kind of like layers, or stairs, or dimensions. Earth, the physical plain is the first (religions would refer to it, the lowest plain/Earth, as hell). From there you have what some would refer to as heaven, which is the second plain of existence, lots of learning to be done there and it's like a weigh-station or pit stop for those whose physical body dies and their spirit needs somewhere to go (also there exists an in between area, the area between the plain (heaven) and this one (hell) where spirits can get lots, it's not really a plain, but kind of an in between limbo area). Then you have a 3rd, 4th, 5h, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th plain of existence. Then you have the source, like scientists and astronomers would look at the center of the universe, a central source...where all life and existence comes from.

Now each one of these plains, 1 through 9, have a task to be completed. A lesson to be learned at each of these steps. Ultimate goal being to reach the source, the beginning.

The first lesson/task must be completed on this plain of existence, Earth/hell...when you die your spirit moves on to the next one but it doesn't get to complete the next task unless you completed it here before you died, you can stay there for as long as you want before you reincarnate here to give it another try. While you are there you are free to study and learn, experience things there, but unless the first task has been completed you are not allowed to begin the second. And right after you die your spirit goes through transition, can take a few days (Earth time) to a few months to work through the transition from physical world/1st plain to spirit world/2nd plain depending on how much you have to work through (kind of like rehab). You get reincarnated here until you complete the first task.

The second lesson/task has two options available, it can be completed on the 2nd level (heaven) or here on Earth/1st level (hell). You can go back and forth between these two plains only until you have completed the 2nd task.
The third lesson/task has three options available, it can be completed on the 3rd, 2nd, or 1st levels. Fourth, 4 options, 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st levels. Fifth the same way (level 5 or any of the lower levels), 6 same, 7 same, 8 and 9 same too...you can complete them on the level your at or any of the lower levels. Once all have been completed you, your soul, gets to return to the source (I haven't figured out what you get to do there yet :chuckle: ).
The more tasks you complete, if you choose to reincarnate here for each of them like some (Buddhists monks like the Dali Lama for example do this), the more you get to remember (past lives, the other side/2nd level, etc...). If you're working on the first task, you remember nothing as you reincarnate and have to start all over again with just instinct or soul memory to guide you (not to be confused with cell memory/genetic memory that is passed down through genetics/DNA). But if you've completed the 1st task, and have chosen to work on the second on this level, you get to bring some of the memory back with you. The more you complete the more memories you can bring back with you...you don't get your brain washed and thrown back in the mix like a blank slate.

Now, how did I come up with this? Don't ask as I don't really have an explanation I can give. But regardless of any explanation, it "feels" right to me, if you know what I mean.

StarsChil­dren thank you so much for that in-depth break down.

I have no idea what the task you speak of could be or how they manifest into any of our lives.

I see kids getting shot and killed so I have no idea how any of them would have the time to complete these task.

People to me are the creation of their parents egg & sperm and I find a deeper meaning to life intriguing.

Add that to the fact animals chase each other down and kill each other to eat i'm really uncertain anymore.

The older i get the more life appears to be survival of the fittest.

But I like the idea of an afterlife where we get to float in the clouds... :)

Whether that's realistic or not i'm still uncertain.

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Re: Tough questions for the Universe regarding life and death 21 Oct 2012 16:49 #22

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RealAmerican wrote:
StarsChil­dren thank you so much for that in-depth break down.

I have no idea what the task you speak of could be or how they manifest into any of our lives.

I see kids getting shot and killed so I have no idea how any of them would have the time to complete these task.

People to me are the creation of their parents egg & sperm and I find a deeper meaning to life intriguing.

Add that to the fact animals chase each other down and kill each other to eat i'm really uncertain anymore.

The older i get the more life appears to be survival of the fittest.

But I like the idea of an afterlife where we get to float in the clouds... :)

Whether that's realistic or not i'm still uncertain.

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No one knows what the task is until they complete it. It's not common knowledge, but I would assume it's along the lines of trying to be a good person, and aiming for enlightenment/learning.

Animals hunt, that doesn't mean it is wrong for them to do so. It's how they were created and how they survive... tell you one thing, I think one animal (not human) killing another has a lot more honor to it than a human animal killing another animal for food. Human's in general don't make sure their pray doesn't suffer, they just go for fun and game (some to survive) and use very little of what they kill.

Humans killing other humans... we plan our lives out before we come here, what we will experience and what we will do...while we might go astray and off path, sometimes people opt to come in for a very short time and others opt in to come in as the "evil" to help show others and help others reach their goal. And yet still, some people are just twisted and molded by their experiences into something really bad. It's not our place to question why things happen, even though we all do, but when you take the time to actually think about it often, you have no other choice left but to accept that everything happens for a reason. We meet people, or not so much as meet them but just brush up against them walking down the street and part of them stays with us forever.

Yeah, survival of the fittest, but even some of the fittest don't survive... call it destiny or fate, but we have agreed to come here and learn. It was our choice to do so. And then our surroundings play a part in who we are as people, that includes being brainwashed by the magic box into thinking material objects/possessions are a good thing :chuckle: . Things just are, the only thing we have control over (most of the time) is ourselves and our actions.

Sorry, kind of rambled a bit there but thanks to you, I'm now on some inner thought trip which I tried to drown last night :hahano: :D

:sorry: just wanna add one more thing... sometimes, doing the wrong thing in societies terms (like murder) if done for the right reasons (protecting someone/something you love) is really the right thing to do. There is no line between good and evil, but the reasoning behind what you do makes all the difference.
I came into this world kicking and screaming while covered in someone elses blood
and I have no problem with going out the same way :twisted:
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Re: Tough questions for the Universe regarding life and death 26 Oct 2012 23:02 #23

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If someone kills a human and eats them does god or the creator of the universe judge them the same as a person who just ate a pack of beef jerky? I'm just saying some one had to kill an animal to make that beef jerky. Is there really any difference? We are all just creatures of the earth right.

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Re: Tough questions for the Universe regarding life and death 28 Oct 2012 14:12 #24

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RealAmerican wrote:
If someone kills a human and eats them does god or the creator of the universe judge them the same as a person who just ate a pack of beef jerky? I'm just saying some one had to kill an animal to make that beef jerky. Is there really any difference? We are all just creatures of the earth right.

:conf:

Man made god and god made man rules does anyone disagree?
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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