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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:06 #21

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Guevarista wrote:
Immediate materialist vs metaphysical dialectic on page 1 :)

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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:06 #22

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dubmeup wrote:
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Change happens through consciousness selecting a set of possibilities from the void. This leads the potential to become kinetic and results in a perceived force in the universe.

Yeah, the concious void the core of chaos :scotty:

Void's just a word. An inadequate one. :emb:

That term is a friend
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:09 #23

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dubmeup wrote:
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Does change happen or is it just our perception of the constant that changes?

:P
Its all about the perception :) nothing really changes, as you suggest. Imho :)

Taken as a whole for the entire universe given our knowledge of its rules so far, this presumption is correct :)

Matter changes to energy and vice versa but the total amount will remain the same.
AFAIK the scientific consensus is that eventually all the suns will die out and all energy will have transformed to matter that will then remain at absolute zero kelvin for eternity... :p

I always say laws are made to be broken though :D
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:10 #24

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To my mind void=space=black matter= the unfathomable=that which we are afraid to say "ain't got a scooby" but there's something bigger than all material existence in existence. Science ain't keen on that fact.
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:16 #25

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Not one real solid ever existed or exists, or ever shall it
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:24 #26

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Isn't everthing made up of atoms, that never touch? Like, if we go down far enough with a microscope or something...the atoms just like, circle around each other with space in between, kind of attracting, and repelling each other?...or so I've heard.

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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:32 #27

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"Oh WRETCHED race of men, to space confined!
What honour can ye pay to him, whose mind
To that which lies beyond hath penetrated?
The symbols he hath formed shall sound his praise,
And lead him on through unimagined ways
To conquests new, in worlds not yet created.

First, ye Determinants! In ordered row
And massive column ranged, before him go,
To form a phalanx for his safe protection.
Ye powers of the nth roots of - 1!
Around his head in ceaseless* cycles run,
As unembodied spirits of direction.

And you, ye undevelopable scrolls!
Above the host wave your emblazoned rolls,
Ruled for the record of his bright inventions.
Ye cubic surfaces! By threes and nines
Draw round his camp your seven-and-twenty lines-
The seal of Solomon in three dimensions.

March on, symbolic host! With step sublime,
Up to the flaming bounds of Space and Time!
There pause, until by Dickenson depicted,
In two dimensions, we the form may trace
Of him whose soul, too large for vulgar space,
In n dimensions flourished unrestricted."
-- James Clerk Maxwell
To the Committee of the Cayley Portrait Fund -- 1887
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:37 #28

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What would you say are some of the biggest changes in modern human history? List three, I'd say off the top of my head:
Neolithic Revolution
Industrial Revolution
Invention of Electrical Telecoms
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:39 #29

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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:40 #30

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That image is sticking isn't it?
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:40 #31

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The discovery of atomic energy...nuclear stuff.
If we fuck up with that, we could probably destroy the entire planet! :O
Not sure if the earth would be able to recover.
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:40 #32

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andyh wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Does change happen or is it just our perception of the constant that changes?

:P
Its all about the perception :) nothing really changes, as you suggest. Imho :)

Taken as a whole for the entire universe given our knowledge of its rules so far, this presumption is correct :)

Matter changes to energy and vice versa but the total amount will remain the same.
AFAIK the scientific consensus is that eventually all the suns will die out and all energy will have transformed to matter that will then remain at absolute zero kelvin for eternity... :p

I always say laws are made to be broken though :D

That scientific consensus disappears up its bum considering its predicated on a big bang. Maybe they may see the toroidal nature of their own logic one day. Thatd be a start :)
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:45 #33

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dubmeup wrote:
andyh wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Does change happen or is it just our perception of the constant that changes?

:P
Its all about the perception :) nothing really changes, as you suggest. Imho :)

Taken as a whole for the entire universe given our knowledge of its rules so far, this presumption is correct :)

Matter changes to energy and vice versa but the total amount will remain the same.
AFAIK the scientific consensus is that eventually all the suns will die out and all energy will have transformed to matter that will then remain at absolute zero kelvin for eternity... :p

I always say laws are made to be broken though :D

That scientific consensus disappears up its bum considering its predicated on a big bang. Maybe they may see the toroidal nature of their own logic one day. Thatd be a start :)

lol :)
I think its hilarious when they start talking about 'multiverses' when the definition of universe was literally everything. :p
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:48 #34

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The discovery of atomic energy...nuclear stuff.
If we fuck up with that, we could probably destroy the entire planet! :O
Not sure if the earth would be able to recover.

I wouldn't worry about that even a little bit.....

The earth will adapt, it always does and always will...

When humans kill each other i just blame the individual...
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 02:03 #35

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You dont need many individual's fingers on nuke buttons to cause a pretty big problem for millions if not billions though eh ra :P
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 02:06 #36

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You dont need many individual's fingers on nuke buttons to cause a pretty big problem for millions if not billions though eh ra :P

I'm calling their bluff cause if you humans wan't to take it there that's way out of my control.
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 02:15 #37

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You humans? :conf:
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Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 02:19 #38

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dubmeup wrote:
You humans? :conf:

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