Sanctum Zone

Keyword
A+ A A-
Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me

TOPIC: How does change happen?

How does change happen? 08 Dec 2012 23:42 #1

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
Don't mind how you approach this question would really like to hear some interesting answers though?
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 08 Dec 2012 23:48 #2

  • MrsGood
  • MrsGood's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Senior Boarder
  • Rank3
  • Posts: 873
  • Thank you received: 388
  • Karma: 0
Guevarista wrote:
Don't mind how you approach this question would really like to hear some interesting answers though?

Through control............We are capable / born to stay unchanged...........The sewer changes most
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 08 Dec 2012 23:52 #3

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
Cool that's quite poetic, I completely disagree though with the first bit.

It's a very vague question, I apologize but let's see where it goes.
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 08 Dec 2012 23:53 #4

  • StarsChildren
  • StarsChildren's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • El Blanca Loco Uno
  • Posts: 2786
  • Thank you received: 1427
  • Karma: 45
Easy answer, from within. Hard answer, figuring out how to start the change from within.
I came into this world kicking and screaming while covered in someone elses blood
and I have no problem with going out the same way :twisted:
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 08 Dec 2012 23:56 #5

  • oioioi
  • oioioi's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Zone Facilitator
  • Rankmod
  • with my droogs
  • Posts: 13058
  • Thank you received: 7307
  • Karma: 91
Organically.

From the root upward.

Sky's the limit.
If you have any issues with the forum or it's members, for a speedier response, rather than pressing the report button, please post them here: sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Forum-Projects--...scussion-thread.html
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:02 #6

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
The question is a bit vague.
The universe itself is changing every second and it happens regardless of what us humans do, for now at least :)
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:10 #7

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
andyh wrote:
The question is a bit vague.
The universe itself is changing every second and it happens regardless of what us humans do, for now at least :)
Likewise humanity imo is changing every second and it happens regardless of what the Universe does, for now at least as long as we stay in the goldilocks zone :up:
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:19 #8

  • andyh
  • andyh's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Rank6
  • Posts: 10337
  • Thank you received: 3545
  • Karma: 62
Guevarista wrote:
andyh wrote:
The question is a bit vague.
The universe itself is changing every second and it happens regardless of what us humans do, for now at least :)
Likewise humanity imo is changing every second and it happens regardless of what the Universe does, for now at least as long as we stay in the goldilocks zone :up:

Yep we do change, every second, inside our bodies and inside our minds.
I read somewhere every cell in your body is replaced approx every 7 years or so. Yet you 'feel' the same person as you were 7 years ago, just with a different outlook from previous experiences during those 7 years perhaps and you still retain the memory from those 7 years.

We pass on our experiences now via digital media and both produce and absorb more information than ever before. Technology changes, laws change as often as the weather now (unless you're talking about the irish weather lol)

So change is inevitable imho, its always going on.
“Fascists are not human. A snake is more human.” - Hugo Chávez
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:25 #9

  • oioioi
  • oioioi's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Zone Facilitator
  • Rankmod
  • with my droogs
  • Posts: 13058
  • Thank you received: 7307
  • Karma: 91
Guevarista wrote:
andyh wrote:
The question is a bit vague.
The universe itself is changing every second and it happens regardless of what us humans do, for now at least :)
Likewise humanity imo is changing every second and it happens regardless of what the Universe does, for now at least as long as we stay in the goldilocks zone :up:

Ergo the meaning of your question has already changed and therefore the answer.

Stop wasting our time with these trifling quantum conundrums.
If you have any issues with the forum or it's members, for a speedier response, rather than pressing the report button, please post them here: sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Forum-Projects--...scussion-thread.html
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Gilly

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:32 #10

  • irrepressible
  • irrepressible's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 4401
  • Thank you received: 1770
  • Karma: 95
Change happens every and any way it can... :think:

Change through personal choice is my favourite kind, sometimes it's a battle though :zorro: personal change doesn't tend come easily in my opinion.

I don't like enforced change, some other bastard/s fucking things up for me and everyone else...although if the enforced change is good, then it's not so...bad...but if it's good, why would it need to be enforced? :think:

I think it's one of those questions with a billion answers, and all of them are wrong and yet right at the same time :D
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: dubs

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:39 #11

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
I would like to welcome human agency into the equation, please, come in take a seat, you've been busy!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalyst
Catalysis is the change in rate of a chemical reaction due to the participation of a substance called a catalyst. Unlike other reagents that participate in the chemical reaction, a catalyst is not consumed by the reaction itself. A catalyst may participate in multiple chemical transformations. Catalysts that speed the reaction are called positive catalysts. Substances that slow a catalyst's effect in a chemical reaction are called inhibitors. Substances that increase the activity of catalysts are called promoters, and substances that deactivate catalysts are called catalytic poisons.
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:43 #12

  • MrsGood
  • MrsGood's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Senior Boarder
  • Rank3
  • Posts: 873
  • Thank you received: 388
  • Karma: 0
Guevarista wrote:
I would like to welcome human agency into the equation, please, come in take a seat, you've been busy!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalyst
Catalysis is the change in rate of a chemical reaction due to the participation of a substance called a catalyst. Unlike other reagents that participate in the chemical reaction, a catalyst is not consumed by the reaction itself. A catalyst may participate in multiple chemical transformations. Catalysts that speed the reaction are called positive catalysts. Substances that slow a catalyst's effect in a chemical reaction are called inhibitors. Substances that increase the activity of catalysts are called promoters, and substances that deactivate catalysts are called catalytic poisons.

Isn't the polite offer of a seat .....................control
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:56 #13

  • dubs
  • dubs's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Goodbye and Goodluck
  • Posts: 5408
  • Thank you received: 2474
  • Karma: 69000000
Change happens through consciousness selecting a set of possibilities from the void. This leads the potential to become kinetic and results in a perceived force in the universe.
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:59 #14

  • oioioi
  • oioioi's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Zone Facilitator
  • Rankmod
  • with my droogs
  • Posts: 13058
  • Thank you received: 7307
  • Karma: 91
Does change happen or is it just our perception of the constant that changes?

:P
If you have any issues with the forum or it's members, for a speedier response, rather than pressing the report button, please post them here: sanctumzone.co.uk/forum/Forum-Projects--...scussion-thread.html
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 00:59 #15

  • MrsGood
  • MrsGood's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Senior Boarder
  • Rank3
  • Posts: 873
  • Thank you received: 388
  • Karma: 0
dubmeup wrote:
Change happens through consciousness selecting a set of possibilities from the void. This leads the potential to become kinetic and results in a perceived force in the universe.

Yeah, the concious void the core of chaos :scotty:
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:01 #16

  • ..........
  • ..........'s Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Gold Boarder
  • Rank5
  • Posts: 2786
  • Thank you received: 362
  • Karma: 0
Guevarista wrote:

It's a very vague question, I apologize but let's see where it goes.

Like everyone else said change happens all the time so you gotta set the bar somewhere in terms of significance.

A human could lay on the beach all day or walk a nature trail and that could cause a major change in them.

But on a level of world importance change is most likely to happen by awareness through entertainment.

If it's not self explanatory i could give examples like the mass influence of movies on Netflix like Zeitgeist.

Coaching high school basketball has taught me community change only happens when people get together with a sense of organization.
"The Great Liberator" aka #1 Anarchist
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: dubs, Guevarista

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:01 #17

  • Guevarista
  • Guevarista's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Posts: 1365
  • Thank you received: 247
  • Karma: 14
Immediate materialist vs metaphysical dialectic on page 1 :)
The mean­ings that are the most directly prac­ti­cal are the ones that are sac­ri­ficed: the fla­vor, aroma and touch are abol­ished to the profit of the delu­sions that per­ma­nently lead sight and hear­ing astray.
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:03 #18

  • dubs
  • dubs's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Goodbye and Goodluck
  • Posts: 5408
  • Thank you received: 2474
  • Karma: 69000000
oioioi wrote:
Does change happen or is it just our perception of the constant that changes?

:P
Its all about the perception :) nothing really changes, as you suggest. Imho :)
You must register to post here.

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:04 #19

  • MrsGood
  • MrsGood's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Senior Boarder
  • Rank3
  • Posts: 873
  • Thank you received: 388
  • Karma: 0
dubmeup wrote:
oioioi wrote:
Does change happen or is it just our perception of the constant that changes?

:P
Its all about the perception :) nothing really changes, as you suggest. Imho :)

because the nothing IS
You must register to post here.
The following user(s) said Thank You: dubs

Re: How does change happen? 09 Dec 2012 01:04 #20

  • dubs
  • dubs's Avatar
  • ZONED OUT
  • Voluntarily Inactive
  • Rank0
  • Goodbye and Goodluck
  • Posts: 5408
  • Thank you received: 2474
  • Karma: 69000000
MrsGood wrote:
dubmeup wrote:
Change happens through consciousness selecting a set of possibilities from the void. This leads the potential to become kinetic and results in a perceived force in the universe.

Yeah, the concious void the core of chaos :scotty:

Void's just a word. An inadequate one. :emb:
You must register to post here.
Moderators: oioioi, psketti, batou
Time to create page: 0.156 seconds

Latest Members Blogs

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Prev Next

What is going on when it comes to 9-11 I…

The EPA (environmental protection agency) and OSHA took air samples in the days following September 11th, they reported that they found no excessive levels of asbestos contrary to other findings....

Read more

9-11 Eleven Years Later

9-11 Eleven Years Later

With the anniversary of September 11th literally just around the corner, unanswered questions still remain for families who lost loved ones during the tragic event, as well as from families...

Read more

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass An…

Strange Noises, Possible Link to Mass Animal Deaths

In 2008 the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to review a series of lower court rulings that restrict the United States Navy's use of sonar in submarine detection training exercises off...

Read more

Annual Server Target

Whether its 50 cents or five dollars, your donations are appreciated and help keep this community site running so we can all continue to enjoy using it.
This target is to meet our server cost for one year, June 2020 - May 2021, in USD.
$ 340 - Target
( £ 250 GBP )
donation thermometer
donation thermometer
$ 192 - Raised
( £ 140 GBP )
donation thermometer
56%
Most Recent Donation:
$122 USD on 4th Jan 2021
Bitcoin Address: bc1q0kazqya0nurfxtunxv807vm0m8852nnrrk8mj8
 
Ethereum Address: 0xe69915c80dd75df19f438d556267e04f932f057d
 
More Info: Donation options for TZ

No one is obliged to donate, please only donate what you can afford. Even the smallest amount helps. Being an active member is a positive contribution. Thank You.

TradeZone Latest

Visitors

Today6912
Yesterday3600
Week19408
Month44343
Total1142767

Your IP Address: 216.73.217.80 Your Browser and OS: Unknown - Unknown Thursday, 27 August 2026 20:43

Who Is Online

Guests : 1925 guests online Members : One member online
© 2012 – 2021 Sanctum Zone | All rights reserved. This website is a place for people to express and discuss their views on the news and world events. DISCLAIMER: Please Note: Views expressed and submitted by contributors are their own personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views, opinions and beliefs of the Sanctum Zone website and its founder(s) , administrators , moderators , and any other website maintenance technicians, personnel and volunteers. Articles and messages posted on this website and forum are solely the opinion of their authors.

Login or Register

LOG IN

Register

User Registration
or Cancel